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KLthinker91
post Jul 18 2019, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 05:51 PM)
Many coast guards do use those kinds of light aircrafts as patrol/observation platforms, usually smaller countries with limited budgets though like New Zealand, The Philippines and some others.

Anyway if you can afford better planes with better equipment by all  means get those as they van do the job better, but I guess beggars can't be such choosers.

The single-engine planes may have to use onboard observers, although you can probably install basic electro-optical gear on larger twin-engine aircraft. Then you can get a much larger area that you can observe.
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Seems NZ don't have them any more due to funding problems sweat.gif the RNZN use P-3 Orions, in future P-8 Poseidon

I'm just saying, I dunno, maybe its more expensive than we think. Operating costs...?

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Japan uses Beechcraft B200T... how many of those do we have?

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post Jul 18 2019, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 05:51 PM)
although you can probably install basic electro-optical gear on larger twin-engine aircraft. Then you can get a much larger area that you can observe.
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if you have twin engine plane then might as well use on board radar like the tudm's beechcraft
single plane even with optics still limited with line-of-sight and horizon.. worse if got weather problem..
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post Jul 18 2019, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 07:06 PM)
P.S.
Japan uses Beechcraft B200T... how many of those do we have?
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tudm got 3
pdrm got 1-2? with same config

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post Jul 18 2019, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jul 18 2019, 07:12 PM)
if you have twin engine plane then might as well use on board radar like the tudm's beechcraft
single plane even with optics still limited with line-of-sight and horizon.. worse if got weather problem..
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That kind if money is no object can la....

We're talking about cash-strapped options here. IMHO any eye in the sky is better than no eye at all.
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Jul 18 2019, 07:06 PM)
Seems NZ don't have them any more due to funding problems sweat.gif the RNZN use P-3 Orions, in future P-8 Poseidon

I'm just saying, I dunno, maybe its more expensive than we think. Operating costs...?

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Japan uses Beechcraft B200T... how many of those do we have?
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It seems that the NZ coast guard is actually not a full government body, just a civilian-run government-linked organization with no enforcement powers. All of their assets are sourced either from donations or sponsorships. All their duties are apparently restricted to maritime safety and SAR only.


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post Jul 18 2019, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jul 18 2019, 09:05 PM)
That kind if money is no object can la....

We're talking about cash-strapped options here. IMHO any eye in the sky is better than no eye at all.
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if cash strapped i would just buy more boats biggrin.gif
at least they can go out to the sea to do their job even in severe weather
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Thai soldier killed in parachute jump ahead of wedding

A 29-year-old soldier was killed in a rice field in Lop Buri's Muang district when his parachute failed to open during a practice jump on Monday afternoon.

Army Lieutenant Watcharapong Chantarachat from a Prachuap Khiri Khan infantry unit had jumped from a military airplane at 1.30pm.

His body was found in Ban Tha Deu of tambon Nikhom Sang Tua-eng and was sent to Ananda Mahidol Hospital. Army officers at the scene declined to give comment, explaining a senior officer would later announce details about the incident.

The victim had been studying at the Erawan Military Camp's Special Warfare School and was reportedly going to get married next month, a source said.

https://www.asiaone.com/asia/thai-soldier-k...p-ahead-wedding

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post Jul 18 2019, 11:10 PM

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Boeing Defense, Space & Security in Indonesia

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Boeing was awarded the contract to build Apache helicopters for Indonesia in 2015.  Following production and flight testing at the Boeing facility in Mesa, Arizona USA, the AH-64E Apaches for Indonesia were delivered in-country in late 2017 and in the first quarter of 2018. The Apache is the world’s leading multi-role attack helicopter.

Maritime intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities are moving to the forefront in the region and we see opportunities for these capabilities in Indonesia. Our solutions encompass long range maritime reconnaissance capability with our Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) and P-8 aircraft. We've also seen the relevance for CH-47 Chinook to aid in humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, search and rescue and general mobility needs across remote island and ocean territories in the region. Finally, given requirements for long distance operations and situational awareness, we also see opportunities for KC-46 tanker and AEW&C.


https://www.boeing.com/global/boeing-southe...esia/index.page

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Indonesia allocates USD143 million for two naval hydrographic vessels

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Navy International
17 July 2019

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• Indonesia has approved an additional sum of IDR2.04 trillion for the country's 2019 defence budget
• The funds will be allocated towards the procurement of hydrographic survey vessels that can be quickly converted into vessels of opportunity for submarine rescue

The Indonesian Ministry of Finance has approved an additional IDR2.04 trillion (USD143 million) for the country's 2019 defence budget, with a view on accelerating the procurement process for two new hydrographic survey ships that can be swiftly converted into vessels of opportunity (VOO) for submarine rescue operations.

The funds will be added to the country's previously approved 2019 defence budget of IDR108 trillion, according to an official document seen by Jane's on 17 July.


https://www.janes.com/article/89932/indones...graphic-vessels


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post Jul 19 2019, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Jul 18 2019, 09:41 PM)
if cash strapped i would just buy more boats  biggrin.gif
at least they can go out to the sea to do their job even in severe weather
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I admit boats do have more utility though, but I stand by my view that air units, however basic can act as good force multiplier for those coast guards with low funds.

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Turkey’s ATAK helicopter sale to Pakistan stalled over missing engines - SoL

The sale of Turkish-made T129 ATAK helicopter gunships to Pakistan has hit a stumbling block as no engines have been found for the gunships after the United States failed to issue the permit required for their delivery, communist news site SoL reported on Wednesday.

Turkey and Pakistan signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Turkish-made helicopter gunships on July 13, 2018. The delivery date of the first helicopter was pushed back after the U.S. Department of Defence last year refused to issue the Turkish company with an export license for the delivery of the gunships’ CTS800 engines.

Producers in France and Poland are being considered as potential suppliers of the engine, according to Hürriyet newspaper.

Meanwhile, 41 ATAK helicopters have been delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and six to the Gendarmerie General Command, SoL said.

The deal between Ankara and Islamabad sees for the delivery of 30 T129 ATAK helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan’s current AH-1F Cobra gunships lack the capability to perform adequately over the higher altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain range, separating Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the country’s officials.

https://ahvalnews.com/atak/turkeys-atak-hel...ing-engines-sol
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2 British tankers seized by Iran

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Jul 20 2019, 12:04 AM)
Turkey’s ATAK helicopter sale to Pakistan stalled over missing engines - SoL

The sale of Turkish-made T129 ATAK helicopter gunships to Pakistan has hit a stumbling block as no engines have been found for the gunships after the United States failed to issue the permit required for their delivery, communist news site SoL reported on Wednesday.

Turkey and Pakistan signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Turkish-made helicopter gunships on July 13, 2018. The delivery date of the first helicopter was pushed back after the U.S. Department of Defence last year refused to issue the Turkish company with an export license for the delivery of the gunships’ CTS800 engines.

Producers in France and Poland are being considered as potential suppliers of the engine, according to Hürriyet newspaper.

Meanwhile, 41 ATAK helicopters have been delivered to the Turkish Land Forces Command and six to the Gendarmerie General Command, SoL said.

The deal between Ankara and Islamabad sees for the delivery of 30 T129 ATAK helicopters to Pakistan. Pakistan’s current AH-1F Cobra gunships lack the capability to perform adequately over the higher altitudes of the Hindu Kush mountain range, separating Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the country’s officials.

https://ahvalnews.com/atak/turkeys-atak-hel...ing-engines-sol
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Turbomecca Makila is a good option....widely available and have higher average power output too
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Keel Laying Ceremony of 2 units PC-40 Patrol Boats for the Indonesian Navy at PT Caputra Mitra Sejati Shipyard.

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post Jul 20 2019, 12:10 PM

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OCEA Launched Largest Aluminum OPV In The World For Philippine Coast Guard.

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https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/0...es-coast-guard/
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A more detail article. The new hydrographic vessels will be 90 meterrs in length compared to the OCEA 60 meters vessels KRI Rigel-933 & KRI Spica-934.

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Indonesia Devoted Budget for Naval Hydrographic Ships

By Dorian Archus - July 20, 2019

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Indonesia will buy two 90 meter ocean going hydrographic vessels in near future. The Indonesian Ministry of Finance has approved a budget of IDR2.04 trillion (US$143 million) for the procurement of two new build hydrographic survey ships for the country’s navy.

The vessels will also be designed to be quickly modified for submarine rescue operations as needed.

Delivery of the two vessels is expected within the 2020-2024 timeframe.


Read more: https://navalnews.net/indonesia-devoted-bud...ographic-ships/

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