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post Dec 13 2023, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 13 2023, 05:22 AM)
Meaning that they didn’t follow court orders after the injunction was issued

This case only for stop and cease not whether to prove that they were harmed from it as there should be court case for defamation after this since this only breach of injunction
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Anyway, any idea why would they go against the court's injunction?

So the verdict for that case is still out there

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post Dec 13 2023, 05:47 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2023, 05:42 AM)
So the verdict for that case is still out there and not just as per this, ....
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Judicial commissioner is just like tribunal and can only impose fine

Actual judgement still relies on another sentencing hearing if found guilty
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post Dec 13 2023, 05:52 AM

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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Dec 13 2023, 05:47 AM)
Judicial commissioner is just like tribunal and can only impose fine

Actual judgement still relies on another sentencing hearing if found guilty
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Anyway, any idea why would they go against the court's injunction?
What are their purpose of going against that court's injunction?
What are they trying to achieve?

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post Dec 13 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2023, 05:52 AM)
Anyway, any idea why would they go against the court's injunction?
What are their purpose of going against that court's injunction?
What are they trying to achieve?
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Simple basically to prove a point and make a statement 🤦‍♀️ but unfortunately backfired 🤦‍♀️

You should ask the party who breach the injunction on why 🤦‍♀️ but if they have paid the fine they already implicitly admitted that they were wrong
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post Dec 13 2023, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 13 2023, 01:06 AM)
Thanks for the updates.

So they were fined for "not abiding with an injunction"

So there is no defamation?
The things they said and do about UBB.....not defamatory?

Meaning, ........ or indirectly means ......
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First of all, have to understand the purpose of an injunction. It is mainly to preserve status quo and prohibit further damage/loss caused by the defendant. In this case, it was to prohibit the defendants from publishing further defamatory statements.

Had the defendant continue to do what they do, UBB may suffer significant damage/loss even before the trial ends.

The injunction was obtained on 17 April and yet the defendants ignored the injunction and posted allegations on 23 April and 4 May. Hence, in breach of the terms of the injunction, the defendants were fined.

The other interesting bit here, is whether committal proceedings (civil prison) will also be taken against the defendants, noted that the fine was paid (rich!, didn't even appeal).

Conclusion is that this is just a side show, we haven't even entered the main show yet. Nevertheless, the defendants lawyers should have advised the defendant what to do and what not to do in a defamation suit and being slapped with an injunction, if the defendant still proceeded to what they did, then its more a less a self inflicted wound.

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post Dec 13 2023, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Dec 13 2023, 03:09 PM)
First of all, have to understand the purpose of an injunction. It is mainly to preserve status quo and prohibit further damage/loss caused by the defendant. In this case, it was to prohibit the defendants from publishing further defamatory statements.

Had the defendant continue to do what they do, UBB may suffer significant damage/loss even before the trial ends.

The injunction was obtained on 17 April and yet the defendants ignored the injunction and posted allegations on 23 April and 4 May. Hence, in breach of the terms of the injunction, the defendants were fined.

The other interesting bit here, is whether committal proceedings (civil prison) will also be taken against the defendants, noted that the fine was paid (rich!, didn't even appeal).

Conclusion is that this is just a side show, we haven't even entered the main show yet. Nevertheless, the defendants lawyers should have advised the defendant what to do and what not to do in a defamation suit and being slapped with an injunction, if the defendant still proceeded to what they did, then its more a less a self inflicted wound.
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why the defendants wanna post defamation statements against UBB?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 13 2023, 10:36 PM)
why the defendants wanna post defamation statements against UBB?
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At the moment is just allegations. UBB has taken the defendants to court yet they continue to make allegations.

Whether its defamation or not, it still needs to play out in court.
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post Jan 6 2024, 08:15 PM

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Has any investor had a negative experience with UBB so far?
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post Jan 6 2024, 09:08 PM

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This forummer had in Oct 2022 talked of positive experience on his platform that had established since 2009 and had been having funds giving out positive experience every 5 weeks since 2013 without fails.
Look at the millions they were said to had made

Past performance is not an indicator of possible same or continuous same performance of future performance.



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post Jan 7 2024, 04:52 AM

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Ive had the same experiences, being a yearly payout without fail.
My cycle is about to expire, and I will likely reinvest.

Just wanted to see if these defamation have had any impact on UBB investors as they do have exposure to a a run on cash withdrawls.



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post Jan 7 2024, 09:08 AM

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Currently trust companies are under the purview of SSM.
I would only consider putting any money in it after the "efforts" to change the "Trust Companies Act" had already been passed and in law.


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post Jan 7 2024, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2024, 09:08 PM)
This forummer had in Oct 2022 talked of positive experience on his platform that had established since 2009 and had been having funds giving out positive experience every 5 weeks since 2013 without fails.
Look at the millions they were said to had made

Past performance is not an indicator of possible same or continuous same performance of future performance.
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A ponzi scheme can last very very long.... It is always safe until it is not... smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2024, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 7 2024, 11:48 PM)
A ponzi scheme can last very very long.... It is always safe until it is not... smile.gif
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To be honest, first in, first out ponzi participants will always sing songs and regal others on how many millions they've raked from the ones left holding the hot potato in the end.

Personally, I'm not wired for such get rich quick schemes - ponzi or otherwise - but, hey, different strokes for different folks, different grass for different cows...

To echo what many have said here, Caveat emptor
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QUOTE(ASF1984 @ Jan 6 2024, 08:15 PM)
Has any investor had a negative experience with UBB so far?
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i had various trust account set up with ubb. so far no issue. have been repeating the cycle and withdraw some funds. so far no issue.

paid as promised, and get my capital without any problem.

ive been approach by different agent from different company saying their product similar to ubb cash trust. only try one of the company. so will see how that one played out. .
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https://www.learnabee.com/p/wa-22ncvc-393-07-2022
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post Feb 10 2024, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(dankch @ Feb 9 2024, 11:17 PM)
How on heavens earth. UBB seems kinda sketch but they won a legal battle. That must add to their credibility.


Still staying far away personally until I can make some sense as to how their absurd returns are generated.
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I guess the principle of "a person is innocent until proven guilty" applies to " a scam is not a scam until proven to be a scam".

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post Feb 10 2024, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(dankch @ Feb 9 2024, 11:17 PM)
.what are the agreed settlement?

need to pay compensation for the suits?
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QUOTE(jack2 @ Feb 10 2024, 09:20 AM)
.what are the agreed settlement?

need to pay compensation for the suits?
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Settlements are normally confidential but it would be something for both parties to reach an agreement and stop the proceedings. Broadly (not saying i know all) speaking it encompasses some form of compensation, promise not to publish further defamatory and an apology.

The fellas sounded so confident going into the fight and I am surprised they "pulled out prematurely" brows.gif .

I guess they see the futility of the legal proceedings and the cost that was pilling up. Normally, for defamatory action, you will need both parties equally rich and stubborn to see it to its conclusion. They they will deploy their strategies, bring in experts, delay and appeal all the way to federal court before settling.

The settlement seem to suggest that one party might have given up, a weak case (ermm?) or they lack the financial muscle especially being slapped with a hefty fine.




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post Feb 22 2024, 11:30 AM

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This is good news. For UBB ofcourse.

Ive been long enough with the company as a client, thoughout the learnabee webinar i was contemplating to withdraw. luckily i didnt else i would lose 10% of my money..

Such a huge release.

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