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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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nexona88
post Nov 16 2019, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:00 PM)
Not possible.

If possible then majority of ASM3 holders would do so. Nexona would be very happy tongue.gif
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Tried before..
Failed error 068...

So didn't kena any fees yet...


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post Nov 16 2019, 01:15 PM

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Well if really want to curb @ stop shadow economy..
Then all dealings must be done online / electronically...

Okay? Also No more direct transaction online..
Want transfer units? Must go branch.. both sellers & buyers needed to be there personally...
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:07 PM)
If that's the case, I would call it shadow economy.

Anyway, it wasn't about concern or not concern, I am more to know about the rule and law stuff. Most people doesn't declare, doesn't mean it shouldn't be declared. But this is Malaysia, so I know enforcement of law is weak, and thus..
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perhaps. we do our part to declare what is rightful, cash or otherwise. what other ppl do, we can't control.
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:10 PM)
No need, if it is cash, there is no way to trace. But what you did is by online, not to mention you are unauthorised to sell asnb units.
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If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy?

Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 tongue.gif

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post Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM)
If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy?

Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 tongue.gif
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Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy.

There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge.

Not even public bank can sell.
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM)
If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy?

Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 tongue.gif
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we have had this similar discussion before, and the opinion varies.
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM)
Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy.

There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge.

Not even public bank can sell.
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perhaps. perhaps we can call it 'convenience charges' since it is allowed to transfer between 2 unrelated persons. just playing with the wordings.
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM)
Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy.

There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge.

Not even public bank can sell.
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If you are so serious about asnb rules and regulations, you can write to asnb to stop this 3rd party transfer. I wouldn’t care less.

No point whining here for something you cannot control.
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:24 PM)
If you are so serious about asnb rules and regulations, you can write to asnb to stop this 3rd party transfer. I wouldn’t care less.

No point whining here for something you cannot control.
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Since when I am whining?

I am more to educational discussion at the first place.
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post Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM

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While I like to see active discussion among members...
Good to see post other than the fishing results...

Please don't personal attack & name calling...
And bring the topic to kopitiam section again...

Just reminding everyone...

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post Nov 16 2019, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM)
While I like to see active discussion among members...
Good to see post other than the fishing results...

Please don't personal attack & name calling...
And bring the topic to kopitiam section again...

Just reminding everyone...

Thanks πŸ™
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Ya, Ya, I echo sifu reminder.
Most investor stressed with the lack of fish.
But, most also remember you r % of the relatively lucky n affluent society. So, be thankful n enjoy your weekend. Anyone generous sifu willing to half sell, half donate me some ASM1? 😬
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post Nov 16 2019, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:10 PM)
No need, if it is cash, there is no way to trace. But what you did is by online, not to mention you are unauthorised to sell asnb units.
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There is a clear difference between "no need to declare" and "can don't declare".
Whether you call it commission or shiok-sendiri "kfc tips" doesn't matter.
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post Nov 16 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM)
While I like to see active discussion among members...
Good to see post other than the fishing results...

Please don't personal attack & name calling...
And bring the topic to kopitiam section again...

Just reminding everyone...

Thanks πŸ™
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Agree...but some members like to show off by bringing income tax implications and shadow economy which has nothing to do with ASNB thread.

If you want to discuss income tax implications, there is an active income tax thread.

If you want to discuss shadow economy, you can go open a new thread about Malaysia Shadow Economy of RM300 billion.
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post Nov 16 2019, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(aawcy @ Nov 16 2019, 11:54 AM)
just asking can we transfer or any charges involve if we want to transfer say money from AS3 to ASM or to ASM2...
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That is called Switching. Check out that same place where you can buy and transfer. There is a third option called Switching.
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post Nov 16 2019, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Dd2318 @ Nov 16 2019, 02:14 PM)
Ya, Ya, I echo sifu reminder.
Most investor stressed with the lack of fish.
But, most also remember you r % of the relatively lucky n  affluent society. So, be thankful n enjoy your weekend. Anyone generous sifu willing to half sell, half donate me some ASM1? 😬
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affluent society?? Me? 🀣🀣🀣
I'm enjoying my weekend... Ain't have time for ASMx today.. maybe next week too...

Donate to u? When the time comes.. and with services fee too 🀣
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post Nov 16 2019, 03:06 PM

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May I know every year the dividen is keep at akaun asnb or direct to bank ?
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 11:29 AM)
Actually at that time i only have 2000 units of asm3 for sale thats why the high cost.

If you read my previous conversation with believe and nexona, i am willing to let go 10k of ASW to newbies for the same cost of a kfc meal. To me its really not about making this small amount of money. Instead its for helping newbies getting units. But this also attract overjealous junior member who keep reporting my every post. LOL
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the third party transfer is done on app, web or branch? How come i didnt see any transfer tab on app or web?
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post Nov 16 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Don don @ Nov 16 2019, 03:06 PM)
May I know every year the dividen is keep at akaun asnb or direct to bank ?
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all the while, dividend (unit) keep in the account asnb.
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post Nov 16 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 02:44 PM)
Agree...but some members like to show off by bringing income tax implications and shadow economy which has nothing to do with ASNB thread.

If you want to discuss income tax implications, there is an active income tax thread.

If you want to discuss shadow economy, you can go open a new thread about Malaysia Shadow Economy of RM300 billion.
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What nothing to do? You are arguing about selling asnb units and collect tips, and it is definitely within this topic.

I haven't even talk about the extent until one (buyer or seller) get scammed, can one chase back the money legally? Is this a lawful transaction at the first place?

What I want to said, there are a lot of unknown implications on buying and selling units via unofficial channel, which one should be cautious about.

This post has been edited by vanitas: Nov 16 2019, 03:45 PM
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post Nov 16 2019, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(jes88 @ Nov 16 2019, 03:13 PM)
the third party transfer is done on app, web or branch? How come i didnt see any transfer tab on app or web?
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Same list with top up @ tambahan unit...
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