QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:00 PM)
Tried before..Failed error 068...
So didn't kena any fees yet...
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Nov 16 2019, 01:15 PM
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Well if really want to curb @ stop shadow economy..
Then all dealings must be done online / electronically... Okay? Also No more direct transaction online.. Want transfer units? Must go branch.. both sellers & buyers needed to be there personally... |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:07 PM) If that's the case, I would call it shadow economy. perhaps. we do our part to declare what is rightful, cash or otherwise. what other ppl do, we can't control.Anyway, it wasn't about concern or not concern, I am more to know about the rule and law stuff. Most people doesn't declare, doesn't mean it shouldn't be declared. But this is Malaysia, so I know enforcement of law is weak, and thus.. |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:10 PM) No need, if it is cash, there is no way to trace. But what you did is by online, not to mention you are unauthorised to sell asnb units. If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy?Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM) If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy? Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy.Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge. Not even public bank can sell. |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:18 PM) If there is no way to trace because its cash, isnt this shadow economy? we have had this similar discussion before, and the opinion varies.Show me anywhere in asnb prospectus that say we cant transfer units to another person for rm50 kfc tips? In fact asnb would be very happy if everyone can do 3rd party transfer as they get RM15 buta2 |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM) Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy. perhaps. perhaps we can call it 'convenience charges' since it is allowed to transfer between 2 unrelated persons. just playing with the wordings.There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge. Not even public bank can sell. |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:24 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:20 PM) Yes, anything by cash and undeclared is shadow economy. If you are so serious about asnb rules and regulations, you can write to asnb to stop this 3rd party transfer. I wouldnβt care less.There is a rule said only UT agent / agent partner can sell units, and only the company can charge fees as sales charge. Not even public bank can sell. No point whining here for something you cannot control. |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 01:24 PM) If you are so serious about asnb rules and regulations, you can write to asnb to stop this 3rd party transfer. I wouldnβt care less. Since when I am whining?No point whining here for something you cannot control. I am more to educational discussion at the first place. |
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Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM
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While I like to see active discussion among members...
Good to see post other than the fishing results... Please don't personal attack & name calling... And bring the topic to kopitiam section again... Just reminding everyone... Thanks π |
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Nov 16 2019, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM) While I like to see active discussion among members... Ya, Ya, I echo sifu reminder. Good to see post other than the fishing results... Please don't personal attack & name calling... And bring the topic to kopitiam section again... Just reminding everyone... Thanks π Most investor stressed with the lack of fish. But, most also remember you r % of the relatively lucky n affluent society. So, be thankful n enjoy your weekend. Anyone generous sifu willing to half sell, half donate me some ASM1? π¬ |
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Nov 16 2019, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Nov 16 2019, 01:10 PM) No need, if it is cash, there is no way to trace. But what you did is by online, not to mention you are unauthorised to sell asnb units. There is a clear difference between "no need to declare" and "can don't declare". Whether you call it commission or shiok-sendiri "kfc tips" doesn't matter. |
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Nov 16 2019, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 16 2019, 01:57 PM) While I like to see active discussion among members... Agree...but some members like to show off by bringing income tax implications and shadow economy which has nothing to do with ASNB thread.Good to see post other than the fishing results... Please don't personal attack & name calling... And bring the topic to kopitiam section again... Just reminding everyone... Thanks π If you want to discuss income tax implications, there is an active income tax thread. If you want to discuss shadow economy, you can go open a new thread about Malaysia Shadow Economy of RM300 billion. |
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Nov 16 2019, 02:57 PM
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Nov 16 2019, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(Dd2318 @ Nov 16 2019, 02:14 PM) Ya, Ya, I echo sifu reminder. affluent society?? Me? π€£π€£π€£Most investor stressed with the lack of fish. But, most also remember you r % of the relatively lucky n affluent society. So, be thankful n enjoy your weekend. Anyone generous sifu willing to half sell, half donate me some ASM1? π¬ I'm enjoying my weekend... Ain't have time for ASMx today.. maybe next week too... Donate to u? When the time comes.. and with services fee too π€£ |
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Nov 16 2019, 03:06 PM
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May I know every year the dividen is keep at akaun asnb or direct to bank ?
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Nov 16 2019, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 11:29 AM) Actually at that time i only have 2000 units of asm3 for sale thats why the high cost. the third party transfer is done on app, web or branch? How come i didnt see any transfer tab on app or web?If you read my previous conversation with believe and nexona, i am willing to let go 10k of ASW to newbies for the same cost of a kfc meal. To me its really not about making this small amount of money. Instead its for helping newbies getting units. But this also attract overjealous junior member who keep reporting my every post. LOL |
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Nov 16 2019, 03:34 PM
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Nov 16 2019, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 16 2019, 02:44 PM) Agree...but some members like to show off by bringing income tax implications and shadow economy which has nothing to do with ASNB thread. What nothing to do? You are arguing about selling asnb units and collect tips, and it is definitely within this topic.If you want to discuss income tax implications, there is an active income tax thread. If you want to discuss shadow economy, you can go open a new thread about Malaysia Shadow Economy of RM300 billion. I haven't even talk about the extent until one (buyer or seller) get scammed, can one chase back the money legally? Is this a lawful transaction at the first place? What I want to said, there are a lot of unknown implications on buying and selling units via unofficial channel, which one should be cautious about. This post has been edited by vanitas: Nov 16 2019, 03:45 PM |
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Nov 16 2019, 03:42 PM
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