QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 11 2020, 07:19 PM)
4G pun belum fully utilize wanna build 5G,is this a joke bo? Digi Fans Club & Enquiries V17, Let's Inspire
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Jun 11 2020, 08:27 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(kit2 @ Jun 11 2020, 06:16 PM) which vpn did you use? care to share? expressvpndigi blocks my work vpn from the free 1gb and all the free vpns i have tried so far have performed dismally. where to buy: shopee a lot or garage sales (i remember someone selling before but don't know still exist or not) This post has been edited by lambox105: Jun 11 2020, 08:35 PM |
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Jun 11 2020, 08:35 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:27 PM) i think it's quite pointless to invest billions of ringgit to a technology that will expire in another 10 years time. (6G later)Our telcos should have just invested their money to fiberize the entire country. |
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Jun 11 2020, 09:06 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM) i think it's quite pointless to invest billions of ringgit to a technology that will expire in another 10 years time. (6G later) Our telcos should have just invested their money to fiberize the entire country. QUOTE(tympg @ Jun 11 2020, 09:06 PM) i read some US companies refuse to upgrade themselves, and now suffering |
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Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM) Maybe im outdated already, what the benefit of 5G actually?More stable and more speed? More Indoor signal strength? Speed? Depend on the frequency.Higher frequency = more data transmission = lower range = weak obstacles penetration Lower frequency = lower data transmission = super range = better indoor signal. But....about the data per frequency, 4G protocol already approached the Shannon limit or Shannon capacity. Which mean the improvement in speed (amount of carryable data per frequency) in changing to 5G protocol is practically little to nil. Meaning if 5G is using the same frequency and bandwidth as 4G right now, there isn't much different other than better latency? edit: here is reference reading https://cmte.ieee.org/futuredirections/2017...ology-enablers/ This post has been edited by JohnLai: Jun 11 2020, 09:32 PM |
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Jun 11 2020, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM) Maybe im outdated already, what the benefit of 5G actually?More stable and more speed? More Indoor signal strength? Supposedly helps spawn advancement in technology and the economy in general. Why is the Us coming down so hard on Huawei? Because they fear if they don't do something, Huawei (which is allegedly connected to the CCP) will dominate 5G and USA companies lose out. |
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Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 11 2020, 09:28 PM) Speed? Depend on the frequency. won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time?Higher frequency = more data transmission = lower range = weak obstacles penetration Lower frequency = lower data transmission = super range = better indoor signal. But....about the data per frequency, 4G protocol already approached the Shannon limit or Shannon capacity. Which mean the improvement in speed (amount of carryable data per frequency) in changing to 5G protocol is practically little to nil. Meaning if 5G is using the same frequency and bandwidth as 4G right now, there isn't much different other than better latency? edit: here is reference reading https://cmte.ieee.org/futuredirections/2017...ology-enablers/ I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed? i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life. |
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Jun 11 2020, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM) won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time? It is all about marketing and services + job creation.I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed? i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life. If it just a simple fibre upgrade = not much "money movement" on marketing/services + job creation. Just a few manufacturing and replacement of new mutiplexer hardware for fibre ONU/ONT etc and re-use of same old fibre cables. If it is about wireless stuff = fuh yo.....from top to bottom, everyone is happy with receiving "money" and "satisfaction" Anyway, about 5G, the bad news ? https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/295228-5...-summer-weather https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/the...eds-the-summer/ "persistent overheating" issues plague 5G hardware. Not even the transition from 2G to 3G and 4G exhibited such level of power drain and overheating issues. One can argue the 5G hardware isn't mature yet....but..... |
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Jun 11 2020, 10:07 PM
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A few years ago it was argued that phones will use less power on 5G than on 4G. I'm not sure if this is true in the real world situation.
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Jun 11 2020, 10:13 PM
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Whatever the Koreans do when it comes to telecommunication, just follow. You won’t go wrong with that
And when it comes to 5G, the Korea Big 3 (SK Telecom, KT and LG U+) all agree 5G is just as important as fiberise the country. Whilst China is sort of ahead in this 5G game, I think we can all agree that when it comes to actual LTE, LTE-A or Fibre users experience, no one can quite beat South Korea |
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Jun 11 2020, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM) won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time? If you ask the technology people, they will say investments should be made for BOTH 5G & Fibre for every country.I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed? i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life. |
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Jun 11 2020, 10:30 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 11 2020, 07:19 PM) Oh come on bro..don't tell me you're one of those takut 5g will melt your brain and cause Cancer like the Brits and Aussie.Chill bro. 😂. The frequency wave length is safe. But this video will show some serious microwave cooking. What happen if you turn on a opened microwave P.s - I like Kreosan channel. Some crazy Ukrainians. |
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Jun 12 2020, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE(solaris22 @ Jun 10 2020, 12:37 PM) Currently I'm using Digi 38 postpaid, felt that the data is not enough for me to use already, is this a good switch? Or any recommendations? Thanks Does this plan comes with free WhatsApp or other apps?A relative currently on Celcom 38(similar data to Digi 38) with free WhatsApp. Thinking of this Digi 38 plan because can get RM10 discount for senior citizen. |
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Jun 12 2020, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 12 2020, 01:27 AM) Does this plan comes with free WhatsApp or other apps? Digi postpaid plans haven't been offered with free WhatsApp internet lately as far as I know.A relative currently on Celcom 38(similar data to Digi 38) with free WhatsApp. Thinking of this Digi 38 plan because can get RM10 discount for senior citizen. |
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Jun 12 2020, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 11 2020, 10:13 PM) Whatever the Koreans do when it comes to telecommunication, just follow. You won’t go wrong with that Even China also cannot beat South Korea in 5G popularityAnd when it comes to 5G, the Korea Big 3 (SK Telecom, KT and LG U+) all agree 5G is just as important as fiberise the country. Whilst China is sort of ahead in this 5G game, I think we can all agree that when it comes to actual LTE, LTE-A or Fibre users experience, no one can quite beat South Korea |
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Jun 12 2020, 07:51 AM
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