Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
342 Pages « < 302 303 304 305 306 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Digi Fans Club & Enquiries V17, Let's Inspire

views
     
destiny017
post Jun 11 2020, 08:27 PM

Zanza the Divine
*****
Junior Member
728 posts

Joined: Aug 2016
QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 11 2020, 07:19 PM)
5G is coming, getting more and more frequency surrounding us  sweat.gif
*
4G pun belum fully utilize wanna build 5G,is this a joke bo? sweat.gif
lambox105
post Jun 11 2020, 08:32 PM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,443 posts

Joined: Aug 2017
From: Ipoh


QUOTE(kit2 @ Jun 11 2020, 06:16 PM)
which vpn did you use? care to share?

digi blocks my work vpn from the free 1gb and all the free vpns i have tried so far have performed dismally.
*
expressvpn
where to buy: shopee a lot or garage sales (i remember someone selling before but don't know still exist or not)


This post has been edited by lambox105: Jun 11 2020, 08:35 PM
tympg
post Jun 11 2020, 08:35 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:27 PM)
4G pun belum fully utilize wanna build 5G,is this a joke bo? sweat.gif
*
No country is waiting for 4G to be "complete" before starting on 5G.
Chrono-Trigger
post Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM

BY SELF ONE IS DEFILED AND PURIFIED
*******
Senior Member
4,308 posts

Joined: Aug 2013
QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 08:27 PM)
4G pun belum fully utilize wanna build 5G,is this a joke bo? sweat.gif
*
i think it's quite pointless to invest billions of ringgit to a technology that will expire in another 10 years time. (6G later)

Our telcos should have just invested their money to fiberize the entire country.
tympg
post Jun 11 2020, 09:06 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM)
i think it's quite pointless to invest billions of ringgit to a technology that will expire in another 10 years time. (6G later)
*
If you say like that, you can argue the same way about 2G, 3G and 4G.
!@#$%^
post Jun 11 2020, 09:18 PM

Safe Trader
********
All Stars
17,497 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: KL
QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM)
i think it's quite pointless to invest billions of ringgit to a technology that will expire in another 10 years time. (6G later)

Our telcos should have just invested their money to fiberize the entire country.
*
QUOTE(tympg @ Jun 11 2020, 09:06 PM)
If you say like that, you can argue the same way about 2G, 3G and 4G.
*
i read some US companies refuse to upgrade themselves, and now suffering
destiny017
post Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM

Zanza the Divine
*****
Junior Member
728 posts

Joined: Aug 2016
QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jun 11 2020, 09:18 PM)
i read some US companies refuse to upgrade themselves, and now suffering
*
Maybe im outdated already, what the benefit of 5G actually?More stable and more speed? More Indoor signal strength? hmm.gif
JohnLai
post Jun 11 2020, 09:28 PM

Skeptical Cat
*******
Senior Member
3,669 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM)
Maybe im outdated already, what the benefit of 5G actually?More stable and more speed? More Indoor signal strength? hmm.gif
*
Speed? Depend on the frequency.

Higher frequency = more data transmission = lower range = weak obstacles penetration
Lower frequency = lower data transmission = super range = better indoor signal.

But....about the data per frequency, 4G protocol already approached the Shannon limit or Shannon capacity.

Which mean the improvement in speed (amount of carryable data per frequency) in changing to 5G protocol is practically little to nil.

Meaning if 5G is using the same frequency and bandwidth as 4G right now, there isn't much different other than better latency?

edit: here is reference reading

https://cmte.ieee.org/futuredirections/2017...ology-enablers/

This post has been edited by JohnLai: Jun 11 2020, 09:32 PM
tympg
post Jun 11 2020, 09:37 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(destiny017 @ Jun 11 2020, 09:23 PM)
Maybe im outdated already, what the benefit of 5G actually?More stable and more speed? More Indoor signal strength? hmm.gif
*
Supposedly helps spawn advancement in technology and the economy in general. Why is the Us coming down so hard on Huawei? Because they fear if they don't do something, Huawei (which is allegedly connected to the CCP) will dominate 5G and USA companies lose out.
Chrono-Trigger
post Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM

BY SELF ONE IS DEFILED AND PURIFIED
*******
Senior Member
4,308 posts

Joined: Aug 2013
QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 11 2020, 09:28 PM)
Speed? Depend on the frequency.

Higher frequency = more data transmission = lower range = weak obstacles penetration
Lower frequency = lower data transmission = super range = better indoor signal.

But....about the data per frequency, 4G protocol already approached the Shannon limit or Shannon capacity.

Which mean the improvement in speed (amount of carryable data per frequency) in changing to 5G protocol is practically little to nil.

Meaning if 5G is using the same frequency and bandwidth as 4G right now, there isn't much different other than better latency?

edit: here is reference reading

https://cmte.ieee.org/futuredirections/2017...ology-enablers/
*
won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time?

I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed?

i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life.
JohnLai
post Jun 11 2020, 10:01 PM

Skeptical Cat
*******
Senior Member
3,669 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM)
won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time?

I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed?

i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life.
*
It is all about marketing and services + job creation.
If it just a simple fibre upgrade = not much "money movement" on marketing/services + job creation.
Just a few manufacturing and replacement of new mutiplexer hardware for fibre ONU/ONT etc and re-use of same old fibre cables.


If it is about wireless stuff = fuh yo.....from top to bottom, everyone is happy with receiving "money" and "satisfaction" ohmy.gif . Transmitter changed, phone changed, package plan changed, marketing changed, services changed, center also changed, towers erected here and there.......it is all about "money movement + job creation".


Anyway, about 5G, the bad news ?

https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/295228-5...-summer-weather
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/07/the...eds-the-summer/
"persistent overheating" issues plague 5G hardware.

Not even the transition from 2G to 3G and 4G exhibited such level of power drain and overheating issues.
One can argue the 5G hardware isn't mature yet....but..... laugh.gif
tympg
post Jun 11 2020, 10:07 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


A few years ago it was argued that phones will use less power on 5G than on 4G. I'm not sure if this is true in the real world situation.
MilesAndMore
post Jun 11 2020, 10:13 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Moderator
9,301 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Whatever the Koreans do when it comes to telecommunication, just follow. You won’t go wrong with that biggrin.gif

And when it comes to 5G, the Korea Big 3 (SK Telecom, KT and LG U+) all agree 5G is just as important as fiberise the country. Whilst China is sort of ahead in this 5G game, I think we can all agree that when it comes to actual LTE, LTE-A or Fibre users experience, no one can quite beat South Korea tongue.gif
tympg
post Jun 11 2020, 10:24 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 11 2020, 09:52 PM)
won't the billions of ringgit be better spent to upgrade fiber to 1TBPS connection, which is more future proof, than to spend money on something that expires in 10 years time?

I would prefer my home fiber to be upgraded to 10GBPS, 100GBPS or 1 TBPS speed, than to have my 5G phone that connect at 100mbps on average speed?

i would rather my phone stays as a form of communication, and not intrude into my personal space and life.
*
If you ask the technology people, they will say investments should be made for BOTH 5G & Fibre for every country.
kit2
post Jun 11 2020, 10:30 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,278 posts

Joined: Jan 2013
QUOTE(tympg @ Jun 11 2020, 10:24 PM)
If you ask the technology people, they will say investments should be made for BOTH 5G & Fibre for every country.
*
malaysia cannot afford these.

someone has said we need to consider malaysia's position in the global wealth ranking.
SleeplessEyes
post Jun 11 2020, 10:32 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,429 posts

Joined: Feb 2007
QUOTE(saitong09 @ Jun 11 2020, 07:19 PM)
5G is coming, getting more and more frequency surrounding us  sweat.gif
*
Oh come on bro..don't tell me you're one of those takut 5g will melt your brain and cause Cancer like the Brits and Aussie.
Chill bro. 😂. The frequency wave length is safe.

But this video will show some serious microwave cooking.

What happen if you turn on a opened microwave

P.s - I like Kreosan channel. Some crazy Ukrainians.

UnknownH
post Jun 12 2020, 01:27 AM

Enthusiast
******
Senior Member
1,437 posts

Joined: Mar 2009
From: ME TO YOU



QUOTE(solaris22 @ Jun 10 2020, 12:37 PM)
Currently I'm using Digi 38 postpaid, felt that the data is not enough for me to use already, is this a good switch? Or any recommendations? Thanks
*
Does this plan comes with free WhatsApp or other apps?
A relative currently on Celcom 38(similar data to Digi 38) with free WhatsApp. Thinking of this Digi 38 plan because can get RM10 discount for senior citizen.
tympg
post Jun 12 2020, 05:32 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,104 posts

Joined: Oct 2009
From: Penang


QUOTE(UnknownH @ Jun 12 2020, 01:27 AM)
Does this plan comes with free WhatsApp or other apps?
A relative currently on Celcom 38(similar data to Digi 38) with free WhatsApp. Thinking of this Digi 38 plan because can get RM10 discount for senior citizen.
*
Digi postpaid plans haven't been offered with free WhatsApp internet lately as far as I know.
Khuan0813
post Jun 12 2020, 07:20 AM

Regular
******
Senior Member
1,039 posts

Joined: Jan 2020
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jun 11 2020, 10:13 PM)
Whatever the Koreans do when it comes to telecommunication, just follow. You won’t go wrong with that  biggrin.gif

And when it comes to 5G, the Korea Big 3 (SK Telecom, KT and LG U+) all agree 5G is just as important as fiberise the country. Whilst China is sort of ahead in this 5G game, I think we can all agree that when it comes to actual LTE, LTE-A or Fibre users experience, no one can quite beat South Korea  tongue.gif
*
Even China also cannot beat South Korea in 5G popularity
!@#$%^
post Jun 12 2020, 07:51 AM

Safe Trader
********
All Stars
17,497 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: KL
QUOTE(Khuan0813 @ Jun 12 2020, 07:20 AM)
Even China also cannot beat South Korea in 5G popularity
*
so sad. we were once upon a time on par with singapore and south korea.

342 Pages « < 302 303 304 305 306 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0213sec    0.43    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 1st December 2025 - 11:15 PM