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ozak
post Feb 6 2008, 02:40 PM

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Won't you get a rough brush surface if you apply too many layer even the surface is smooth? aspceally using acrlic paint.
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post Feb 6 2008, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 6 2008, 02:40 PM)
Won't you get a rough brush surface if you apply too many layer even the surface is smooth? aspceally using acrlic paint.
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for acrlic paint maybe ok but a bit thick but for lacquer painter need to use sand it 1st if not it can see the uneven surface very clearly due to the lacquer are fine and smooth paint unlike thick acrlic
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post Feb 8 2008, 01:01 AM

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hi everybody....i need ur help

where can i find bootleg gundams in kl ......... place that sell alot of bootleg kit....hehehe wanna borong for modiification, tongue.gif tongue.gif

THANXXXX

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post Feb 8 2008, 01:48 AM

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well kl got bootleg kit somewhere over the rain bow >,< just need to know where to find the golden pot >,<
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post Feb 8 2008, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 6 2008, 02:40 PM)
Won't you get a rough brush surface if you apply too many layer even the surface is smooth? aspceally using acrlic paint.
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The trick to getting a smooth surface using acrylics is to prevent the paint from drying too fast. Your thinning ratio needs to be just right so that the paint does not run too much, but still allows for the brush marks to smooth itself over before drying.

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post Feb 8 2008, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(fyire @ Feb 8 2008, 01:08 PM)
The trick to getting a smooth surface using acrylics is to prevent the paint from drying too fast. Your thinning ratio needs to be just right so that the paint does not run too much, but still allows for the brush marks to smooth itself over before drying.
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Well, my solution is simple. Just air brush it. Smooth and nice. For modeling kits, it is better invest a compressor + AB.
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post Feb 8 2008, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 8 2008, 01:36 PM)
Well, my solution is simple. Just air brush it. Smooth and nice. For modeling kits, it is better invest a compressor + AB.
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or u can do it like me ^,^ which is save $$ buy more kits + cool icon_rolleyes.gif.
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post Feb 8 2008, 06:06 PM

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Hand brushing can give u very good results too... in the case of chris's figures... ( and mine sumtimes tongue.gif tongue.gif )
And its totally cheaper than airbrushing... and healthier for certain situations. But u need a tonne more skills to handbrush a figure....


I usually brush only 1 layer with lacquers.... And my thinner : paint ratio is like 2 : 3 .... so its alredi thick enuf. ( dun forget retarders... about 20% of the total solution ) UNLESS if i screw up... then i will strip the paint, and repaint. I rarely go 2 layers.

I dont paint with acrylics so i dont know. XD From wat ive heard its multiple layers, cuz its thin.

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Feb 8 2008, 06:06 PM)
Hand brushing can give u very good results too... in the case of chris's figures... ( and mine sumtimes tongue.gif tongue.gif )
And its totally cheaper than airbrushing... and healthier for certain situations. But u need a tonne more skills to handbrush a figure....
Its pretty much different types of skills that comes into play actually, and also depends on what sort of model you're doing up too.

An example will be something like this one here:

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I did the priming and the initial coat of black using an airbrush, but there's totally no way you'll be able to do the rest of the paint job using an airbrush, considering that the model's only like 25mm tall from head to toe.

edit: speaking of that model, I'm currently planning on how to mod a zaku to look like one of those Warhammer Space Marine chaplains.

QUOTE(noob4life @ Feb 8 2008, 06:06 PM)
I dont paint with acrylics so i dont know. XD  From wat ive heard its multiple layers, cuz its thin.
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Acrylics is recommended to be applied in multiple layers, but not because its thin, but because its thick. because of the thickness, you'll need to have it thinned down and applied in thin layers to prevent the paint from building up too thick.

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post Feb 9 2008, 12:55 PM

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Its pretty much different types of skills that comes into play actually, and also depends on what sort of model you're doing up too.


Yea well... its kinda like a personal opinion that handbrushing is very difficult compared to airbrushing... im sure many will agree with me. smile.gif

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but not because its thin, but because its thick.


Yea well... wat i meant to say was after u add water it becomes very very thin, ( forgot to mention) and therefore u need to paint in layers to actually cover a part fully... forgive my inaccuracy. tongue.gif


Lol it would be cool if u could mod a zaku into a chaos space marine. drool.gif

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Feb 9 2008, 12:55 PM)
Lol it would be cool if u could mod a zaku into a chaos space marine.  drool.gif
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A Nurgle PlagueMarine will be the easiest to mod to smile.gif Just heat up the armor plates until its all mishappened and lumpy. Pad the stomach area to make it look more bloated, then paint it to look like its got all sort of diseases dripping off the skin tongue.gif Not much precision work needed too, but despite the accuracy of portraying a plaguemarine, it'll still make one hell of a too ugly model for me to wanna keep in my room tongue.gif

Still pondering on which is more suitable for modding though, a Zaku or a Gouf. And wondering also on how a mono-eyed marine chaplain will look.
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post Feb 9 2008, 03:28 PM

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i have a q.. if airbrush must u use compressor?
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post Feb 9 2008, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Feb 9 2008, 03:28 PM)
i have a q.. if airbrush must u use compressor?
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yes...
no other choice
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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Feb 9 2008, 03:28 PM)
i have a q.. if airbrush must u use compressor?
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lol unless you want blow it out using your mouth sweat.gif other than that you can use fish air pump also but i nvr try b4 >,< they say can work. for best and safe + no hasseling use compressor with air tank.

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post Feb 9 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Feb 9 2008, 05:12 PM)
lol unless you want blow it out using your mouth  sweat.gif other than that you can use fish air pump also but i nvr try b4 >,< they say can work. for best and safe + no hasseling use compressor with air tank.
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Everything translates to $$$ ... if u dont spend $$$, you can never get it easy. tongue.gif

I heard the guy over at Game Mate ( prangin mall, penang ) sells modded compressors that are silent and can turn on 24/7 ? Any idea guys ? And i heard its very cheap too... like RM 400 i think. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(noob4life @ Feb 9 2008, 06:30 PM)
Everything translates to $$$ ... if u dont spend $$$, you can never get it easy.  tongue.gif

I heard the guy over at Game Mate ( prangin mall, penang ) sells modded compressors that are silent and can turn on 24/7 ? Any idea guys ?  And i heard its very cheap too... like RM 400 i think.  hmm.gif
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can de, like those wash cars de fella,
their compressor 24/7
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post Feb 9 2008, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Feb 9 2008, 03:28 PM)
i have a q.. if airbrush must u use compressor?
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well, i only use this, lawl




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post Feb 9 2008, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Feb 9 2008, 03:28 PM)
i have a q.. if airbrush must u use compressor?
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Well, you have few choice. Use air pressure can like boltguard do, inflate tyre where you can refill with bicycle pump, bigger fish tank pump where it won't generate pulse and using your mouth to blow. tongue.gif


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QUOTE(noob4life @ Feb 9 2008, 06:30 PM)
Everything translates to $$$ ... if u dont spend $$$, you can never get it easy.  tongue.gif

I heard the guy over at Game Mate ( prangin mall, penang ) sells modded compressors that are silent and can turn on 24/7 ? Any idea guys ?  And i heard its very cheap too... like RM 400 i think.  hmm.gif
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If only cost rm400, go and get it. No need to think. A good silent 24/7 compressor, at least cost rm1000 over.

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post Feb 10 2008, 10:28 PM

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XD...use mouth...that one after kena lungs poisoning...XD. u guys tried the bicycle or fish tank one b4?
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post Feb 10 2008, 10:42 PM

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bicycle? i saw many ppl uses fish tank compressor for their AB haha.

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