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edan1979
post Feb 4 2008, 08:00 PM

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ahhh.... damn nice color....
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Guys, may I know where to get the cheapest mr.color paint in KL/PJ?
For tamiya, big bottle is rm15, mini is rm9.90. Not sure about mr.color and gunze.
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post Feb 5 2008, 11:26 AM

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Aunty Lenny sells for RM5.80 per pot for Mr. Color. XL goes for Rm5.90 I think
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post Feb 5 2008, 12:20 PM

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er guys question here... sorry if it been asked before...
which one better ar? acrylic or enamel?
i am getting acrylic la because its water based rite...
enamel u need to mix with thiner rite?
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QUOTE(fyire @ Feb 5 2008, 11:26 AM)
Aunty Lenny sells for RM5.80 per pot for Mr. Color. XL goes for Rm5.90 I think
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Thanks. Is it locate at endah parade, sri petaling? Would go there and have a check.

My list:
Tamiya big bottle RM15
Tamiya mini bottle RM9.90
Mr.color RM5.80
Hobby Color ??
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post Feb 5 2008, 12:39 PM

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i think if handbrush better stick with lacquer bcoz it's more easier to control the flow. acrylic very hard to control and enamel normally use for lining. Don't apply enamel on ABS parts oh! (see on the runner if there's a ABS word there)
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post Feb 5 2008, 01:41 PM

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so if i am using lacquer, i need to mix it with thiner?
ratio 1:1?
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post Feb 5 2008, 01:53 PM

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i think so gua... shud ask chriswoo or vince or others since i'm not good at it haha. blush.gif
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post Feb 5 2008, 02:07 PM

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@ken811-

For best solution for handpainting lacquer are after primer it and painted 1st layer (Mix tinner retarder = ratio 1:3) then when come painting 2 layer u need to control your tinner paint (just put ratio 1:1 only) . For me after painting 1st layer gentlely then i leave it for 10 min for it to dry then paint 2 layer gentlely again then 3th layer time will cover all the surface without having the bottom layer dissolve.

i think vince need to stick this tactics for handpainting guide for someone use lacquer paint by dry brush. tested works great for me.

Most important thing is do not brush paint same area more than 5 stroke (must leave it dry for 10 min then only continue) that will surely avoid this problem .

Hope that will help you

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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Feb 5 2008, 12:39 PM)
i think if handbrush better stick with lacquer bcoz it's more easier to control the flow. acrylic very hard to control and enamel normally use for lining. Don't apply enamel on ABS parts oh! (see on the runner if there's a ABS word there)
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This will depend a lot on what you're painting too actually.

What I find is that acrylics r the best when it comes to small detailed paintings (such as those warhammer miniatures and so on). However for larger surfaces or models such as gundams, its not really that suitable, due to the moving parts (acrylic paints scratches off easier too).

As for control, it also depends on the type of acrylics you're using. There's different types of acrylics. Tamiya tends to be faster drying and therefore harder to control. Citadel or Vallejo tends to be slower drying and much much thicker (thus giving u better allowance when it comes to thinning) and the control on those r fantastic!

Cant really comment on the control of lacquer though, as I've only use lacquers for airbrushing, not hand painting.
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QUOTE(chriswoo @ Feb 5 2008, 02:07 PM)
@ken811-

For best solution for handpainting lacquer are after primer it and painted 1st layer (Mix tinner retarder = ratio 1:3) then when come painting 2 layer u need to control your tinner paint (just put ratio 1:1 only) . For me after painting 1st layer gentlely then i leave it for 10 min for it to dry then paint 2 layer gentlely again then 3th layer time will cover all the surface without having the bottom layer dissolve.

i think vince need to stick this tactics for handpainting guide for someone use lacquer paint by dry brush. tested works great for me.

Most important thing is do not brush paint same area more than 5 stroke (must leave it dry for 10 min then only continue) that will surely avoid this problem .

Hope that will help you
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oh... thanks for the guide... will keep it in mind and try it next time...
anyway, how many layer max i should paint my gundam?
izzit 3 layer is enough already or i could put more?
and if its not flat enough, i should wait it dry and sand it first only put another layer on top or?


oh ya guys any guide on how to use the soft pastel?
i mean after use it on the gundam wat spray i need to use to make it stick there...

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QUOTE(ken811 @ Feb 5 2008, 03:18 PM)
oh ya guys any guide on how to use the soft pastel?
i mean after use it on the gundam wat spray i need to use to make it stick there...
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According to here: http://www.naritafamily.com/howto/howtoindex.htm (look in the one for the Tiger tanks), he basically scrapped off the pastel into a small holding area, then added tamiya acrylic thinner to it.

Tamiya acrylic thinner can be replaced with isopropyl or Methylated spirits with some acrylic retarder added to it.

I've not used that approach before, but what I've done is to take Tamiya acrylics of the color that I want, then added talcum powder into it, which gives more or less the same sort of textured finishing.
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@heatdriv3 if on artwork piece i noe is using Fixer(some spray to fixed the pigment of pastel) XD but in gundam i dono~i aso wan2 know ~

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For those who uses acrylic paints, here's an interesting article on cheap retarders smile.gif

http://www.paintingclinic.com/clinic/guest...es/retarder.htm



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QUOTE(boltguard @ Feb 6 2008, 12:06 AM)
^ i did mine from 11 pm till 6 am this morning >_<
just finish snap fit my "3675 yen" Unicorn too, hehe.. not yet dare to transform to destroy modo >_<
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where u get those golden finisher?
btw, u go to the gathering?
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post Feb 6 2008, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Feb 6 2008, 01:53 AM)
where u get those golden finisher?
btw, u go to the gathering?
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lol, dun get jiggy, the so-called golden finisher is just a gold gundam marker =P
OT : confirmed date oredi? venue? is it after 20th? =D
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QUOTE(boltguard @ Feb 6 2008, 02:05 AM)
lol, dun get jiggy, the so-called golden finisher is just a gold gundam marker =P
OT : confirmed date oredi? venue? is it after 20th? =D
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cheated by u...
yap, venue & time confirmed alredy,
pls refer to here
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Feb 6 2008, 02:08 AM)
cheated by u...
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24th xD, awesome, i'll come on that day, no probs =) i'll bring the 3 dendrobiums & the musha talgeese too >_< i'm in brunei btw, brought everything after transit from japan >_<, sry OT >_<
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boltguard, when you apply the gold gundam marker, do you sanding or do anything else on the surface or just direct apply it ?? Look like the color very smooth.
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QUOTE(ken811 @ Feb 5 2008, 03:18 PM)
oh... thanks for the guide... will keep it in mind and try it next time...
anyway, how many layer max i should paint my gundam?
izzit 3 layer is enough already or i could put more?
and if its not flat enough, i should wait it dry and sand it first only put another layer on top or?
oh ya guys any guide on how to use the soft pastel?
i mean after use it on the gundam wat spray i need to use to make it stick there...
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well u can put as many layer as u like to cover the parts n as long it u don't brush stroke it for 5 time at same place. as for uneven surface u can sand it also but make sure remember u clear the dust b4 paint.


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