the first dto by SDP launching in August 2019.

22 storeys

234 units

1.66 acres

(name is proposed / old name)

This post has been edited by accetera: Jul 22 2019, 11:52 AM

Price gonna be steep....?

This one is beside Isola, beside Toyota, or beside KTM (fenced up area with Sime Darby logo)? If the name really is Glitz, then my proposed name all tak jadi

This post has been edited by Harry_Bobinski: Apr 18 2019, 01:17 PM

Based on the land size of only 1.66 acres, the plot beside Isola is the prime candidate.
The other plots mentioned are too big.

Now, what was the price....🤔

Lower dense than lot15

Having 2nd thought 🤔

Yeah you went for the dto talk right? Not much info given on psf?

price per sqf?

no info on that. But, if you join the survey, if im not mistaken, for this one the starting price range about 600-700k. and the sizes will be 700-800sqft and 1000-1200sqft. They have not get the apdl yet, so they cant really tell. Aside from the survey, I was told by some of the sa there the starting price range is about that. Need to wait the survey is complete, then only they will submit the apdl.

Around 600-700k in current economy, quite hard to sell.

but this one macam will sell better than lot15. With lower price psf, larger units, not facing tnb, less units @ 234 units compared to 361 units, lower dense.

I was under the impression this was going to be a higher density project than Lot15.

Seems SDP SAs been giving out misleading info.

Actually can't really say it is lower dense.
Large size units with 3 bedroom means more occupants, thus more people in the unit.
Lot 15 are all 2 bedders, thus less occupants, thus less dense.
Moreover, this is very close to federal highway and the interchange which means more noise pollution.

Very hard to say leh. Close to federal highway (for both sides) would weigh far more on (+) than (-). The accessibility is just good.

Could be the very same reason why some love to say MRT/LRT/KTM despite train sound.

If the starting price is around that, the psf would be around 850psf. A bit steep if depend solely on Empire

Wonder how the access is though if it’s beside isola. That plot is directly facing the flyover already.

It is good if, your daily route is fed hwy. Everytime go out from there need to go 1 big round unless sdp want to sacrifice small portion of their land beside toyota . At least for isola can pass thru that small road beside toyota. Plus this area is abit busy starting from T junction @ empire. If youre used to this area youll know it. But no big deal just abit slow hahaha. we'll have to wait on how sdp plan for in n out of that dto1.


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If take the bigger unit, psf price is even lower than Isola launch price 🤔

Around 600-700k?
maybe can sell since location is okay..

let's see how

This one product is different target market than Lot15...

Lot 15 sales will be affected? Near esg can command better rental😁

Building name voting just started

Can choose from the names suggested by sdp and community

1) Neu Isola
2) avento
3) kireina
4) modera
5) ohana
6) isola 2
7) orion
8) novo isola
9) aurora

Prices not out yet.

Price should be out once they get apdl. Which is after all the voting is complete. For now the price will be slightly cheaper psf than lot15. Smallest unit 7xx sqft 2 bed.

Some tough choices.

Probably Isola 2 would be my choice.

parking

I voted for isola 2 and currently the highest vote

Thanks.
You seen the floor plans?

August!


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Exciting stuff!

So are you regretting lot 15 now? heard they are giving 8% bumi discount for this project... same as cantara.

You could have gotten 1k+sqf for about RM500k if what the rumor pricing is right + your Bumi + referral + loyalty

and oh yea if you participate in dto... you get even more discount... it is pretty much a steal for you to get a 1k+ property in subang for less than RM500k

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jun 1 2019, 09:38 PM

No regret for lot15. I have mentioned it before, the timing for lot15 is just nice for me 2021 🙂 and also the location (altho just about 1km+ away lol)

If the price is right. Might get one bigger unit @ dto subang.

Personally I would go for isola 2

Neu Isola - I don't even know how do you pronounce neu? New? Ne-U? Noi (as in german pronunciation for neu)
Avento - Macam Aventador, sound too edgy
Kireina - Karina from mobile legend? People would sure need you to spell it out
Modera - Just sound lame... Mo-Di-Ra or Mo-Deh-Ra or Mo-Der-Ra
Ohana - Hawaii ke? Ohana means family?
Orion - Chinese people will call it OH-LEON
Novo Isola - 5 syllabus ... too long
Aurora - Not many people can pronounce this tongue twisting name...

The best name is always without the need to pronounce the letter R. Not suitable for Asians.. Also... don't use names that needs people to spell it out OR if they have multiple ways of saying it..

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jun 1 2019, 10:01 PM

I voted for Isola 2. And that time it was the highest vote. Easy. Beside isola, name it isola 2 hahaha

Is it confirmed that it is beside Isola? Cause that area is not cleared nor fenced up yet.

I'm might think it is the one beside Sauja OR the one in front on casa tiara (the small piece of land fenced up just right beside the TnB)

more probably is beside isola (hint given is walking distance to empire) and the name voting also is ISOLA proposed by sdp. cannot be beside saujana, that one is proposed for soho. small piece beside tnb what i see is the workers @ lot15 construction punya house/hostel plus from what i heard, the plan for that plot is for office / tnb office.

The land beside saujana is walking distance to empire. I doubt naming it Isola 2 actually mean anything. It is still within SJCC anyway.

When lot 15 officially launched, the area was cleared and fenced though.

Anyway, we shall see cause anything is possible. IF what TS said is true about the DTO project being built on a 1.66 acres land, then I believe it should be referring to the land beside Isola cause it is exactly 1.66 acres or perhaps TS already knew that the land size there is 1.66 acres and just said they are building on a 1.66 acres land.

I am actually more interested to know what they are going to build on the fenced up land in front of lot 15. The green fencing is empty but the blue fencing like you said could be the construction workers' accommodation.





Also the land belongs to SDP so I don't think there will be a TNB office there unless SDP sold that area.


It would be great if the entire stretch of land (Forget the idea of SOHO) in front of the LRT being built as a entertainment mall or place [biggest mall in selangor perhaps...] It would certainly drive up the land value of SS16. I believe the traffic there is manageable considering that the big drainage can be sealed up and covert it to a third road lane + pedestrian walk way (This was the initial plan that was agreed with the subang jaya municipal council)

This post has been edited by holypredator: Jun 2 2019, 01:10 AM

Some of the names are no worse than what AK names their developments.

I do like Aurora reminds me of Aurora Borealis and Aurora, Colorado.

Not big into Novo or Neu or New or Baru in town or building names. Usually only means something not as good.

Tropika Paradise Condo.
1200sqf for around Rm500k

What is AK?

Aurora got too many Rs, not pronunciation friendly.

Name should always be simple for buildings so that your friends or anyone who wants to find you can easily key it on their google map.

I think AK he is referring to Aset Kayamas

I quite like words with many Rs to it.

AK = Aset Kayamas.

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So it will launch on 31st Aug. They will throw more discounts for lot15 a week before..

it will be 10% + 8K for lot15, worse than raya promo.
waiting for dto1 price...

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So, this is the official name for DTO1. Aurora Subang Jaya. 788sqft and 1158sqft

How to get the invitation? For existing buyer only?
Noticed new launch for Subang Jaya has been moved to end Sept instead of end Aug

i receive the email also

This post has been edited by diners: Jul 15 2019, 10:51 PM

I think it’s the land beside isola for this project?

The prime land in front of Subang Parade is marketed as SoHo

Yes it is. But the launch has been pushed to september.

Yes it is. But the launch has been pushed to september.

This dto1 sure will sell like kek panas, so near esg

Thread name updated.

https://www.simedarbyproperty.com/subang-jaya-sjcc/aurora

website updated.

total 234 units only

2 bedroom and 3+1 bedroom units, up to 1,158sqft

Gua sapot

Bayu
Puteri
Putera

300m to esg? If beside isila should b less than 100m? 😕

Until we see the price, floor plans, site plan etc nothing is certain

Actually its about 300m. I just checked using google maps

Agree.

Confirmed Aurora?

Macam tak ngam sdp project name.

ngam or not ngam. Its based on highest vote hahaha its dto-lah! this is the 2nd highest as the highest vote (Avento) one is not approved by local authority

Boss,
Hope to see you at the preview 😃

So its nt beside isola- near olive?

i mean its from there - beside isola. If lets say the land beside toyota also not so much further, just across the road. if ask SA, they also said its confirm beside isola. Their confirmation also need to wait the real launching one just to make sure hahahaha

Boss,
300 meter is a very short distance.

If right beside isola cant be 300m la right? Mayb 100m?

Isola - empire approx 100m walking. make sense aurora - empire 300m. They dont want over claim ma. Later ppl complain why u say 100m i use gps tracker further than that

Boss,
I got 275meters.
The length of Isola itself is already more than 100meters.
So definitely more than 100m.

If you thinking reach ESG car park maybe less than 300m
Some more we don't have the site plan, so don't know where Aurora entrance going to be.



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Walk from isola guardhouse to esg need 100m? 😳tot ard 30-50m nxt door oni

Aiyo, walk 100 meters, 200 m or 300 m is okay...lah
Walking good for your health...lah.

Interesting project....I might have 2 viewings next weekend. Hmm

I didn say its nt ok to walk la, just curious on d distance

I honestly felt that Sime Darby Property Management is very bad in decision making.

The Lot 15 is not sold off and only 60+% take up rate yet they go and launch another service apartment nearby with even lower density.

The last time I visited the sales gallery during Raya, the SA says that Lot 15 is almost completely sold off and only left a few units. Typical SA lies cause the recent shareholder report shows only 60+% take up rate. If almost sold off, makes no sense for them to advertise so much right now. Cantara is almost sold off at 90% take up rate based on the shareholder report hence you can't see many advertisement on Cantara these days but you still can see banners for Lot 15 constantly pushing on high rebates.

Don't Sime know they are cannibalizing the Lot 15 sales by introducing a new project with similar or even better features at lower price nearby? I thought it would be a high density low end apartment but that is not the case.

On top of that, service apartment supply is too great yet they still go on building more.

What they should have done is to introduce their mall concept or commercial complex in front of the LRT. Build traffic and demand there, sell off the lot 15 THEN only move on to build other service apartments.

I can guarantee Lot 15 sales will stagnant badly seeing that they are introducing a lower density project that is within walking distance to empire & subang parade while not having a freaking TnB in front.

Sime management team are really incompetent ... SMH

Good news for all prospect buyers... Bad news for current owners

which one would you prefer?

walking to LRT or
walking to shopping mall?

both properties (lot15 and aurora) can only achieved one of the above, by any stretch of logic.

If Lot 15 is preferable.. Sure already sold out... But... Until now still selling.. Bcos of biggest drawback ===> huge TNB station just in front of building...

Sime darby top management said in the news that they think Lot 15 will be completely sold out by July 2017.

Sime darby people are so funny.

If Lot 15 is based on their original plan then yes... I agree that Lot 15 will sell like hot cakes.. but instead they are doing all these stupid things and expect it to sell well.

The original plan back in 2012 :

It was proposed by MPSJ that they will cover up the entire stretch of large drain and widen the road hence reducing traffic. This is followed with a new mall with a link bridge to the Suave (The current Lot 15), which allows the residence to have easy access to the mall and the LRT.

It is the last piece of land that is within the SJCC project with such connectivity. Back then, the TnB wasn't there either...

At that time, the Lot 15 concept was unbeatable... it was the most perfect service apartment project in the area...



Even with the TnB constructed, people are still quite positive about the project when Sime first announced the SJCC TOD development. But it seems that non of those are happening. There won't be a link bridge connecting to the mall for Lot 15, the mall doesn't even seem to be happening anytime soon and there is no news on the road widening (covering up the drainage) either.

On top of all that shit, this stupid Sime Darby go on and announce a new service apartment with lower density.

I don't know if Sime Darby management team are all highly paid retarded dungus or they just want to screw themselves over.

They should have announce that they are going to build a mall and a link bridge for Lot 15, that will drive the sales up so that they can clear the project. Plus, seeing that there is an oversupply of service apartments, it is a good time for them to build up their TOD plan with the mall THEN when that area is fully established, launch the rest of the service apartments which will be easy for them to sell (increased appeal in that area + property demand should recovered by then)

Why are you so worked up about what SD decides to do with their own land with their own business approach?

SD know they are not good in commercial.. See their previous projects in AD.. All become ghost buildings... Then some more... Mall concept no more as magic stick for most of the developers... SD know their shortage... Is better to concentrate in township development rather than commercial...most of the developers will build residence units rather than commercial / mall due to cash flow and capex...

Hope aurora will give what the market want... Affordable yet marketable in term of rental and subsale

This post has been edited by bigman: Aug 7 2019, 05:38 PM

Keyboard warrior self proclaimed to be property guru again intruded this post to tell sdp should do this and should do that.
Big corporates have their strategies and plans which aren’t just looking at shallow surface items
#justsaying

UOA business park is there and LRT is there. It is the perfect choice for a mall. The area is building traction and all it needs now is a new commercial mall to revitalise that area. More so an entertainment complex.

No point constantly shoving service apartment in an area full of service residences already with no new attractions.

Otherwise their SJCC TOD project is more like tumpang nearby old amenities and make it sound like a gimmick.

Tell that to their 60% lot 15 take up rate which they projected to be completely sold before July 2017

Big corporate also run by humans.. you thought they run by robbots? Kodak and Nokia, one of the largest MNC in the world back in the days will also make stupid decisions and screw themselves over.

With Aurora in place, highly doubt it will help Lot 15 sales. Even stupid people would know it would canabalise their own project sales.

This post has been edited by holypredator: Aug 7 2019, 05:50 PM

LOT 15 for SD just a peanut... They just need to move forward... To generate cash flow and profits through development... Like you say... Lot 15 already 2 years since launched... So is time for SD to launch the next project... Just admit... LOT 15 is not 'hot' as many buyers hope it to be...

Do we really need another mall on top of subang parade and empire?

Wonder why lion group hasnt revamp the entire subang parade and intro service apartments on top much like atria?

Already there is commercial lots opposite uoa biz park.

Its not a wise move to introduce more retail space and commercial in the next 5 yrs

If without the tnb station we also dun need to talk abt it already..

Bcos

1. It will be sold out on launch day
2. It will priced so high that no point to even talk about it

Is not just about Lot 15..... it's about their entire land in SS16.

Think about it, if they do not have any new appeal to their SJCC ... it's no different from spamming more service apartment in that area.


Already mentioned countless time, now is not the time to build more service apartments seeing that it is overly saturated.


The only way out is to focus on increasing SJCC appeal then when the saturation is reduced, they can sell every single residential properties there like hot cakes.


I do not know what is their strategy for Aurora is but if it is low density, it won't be low end.... if it is similar in specs with Lot 15, they are killing themselves equally cause you are pitting people to choose between a property within walking distance to train station and big aeon against the other with empire and subang parade.

Both Lot 15 and Aurora has it flaws too.... Lot 15 with a TnB infront while Aurora has a toyota service center right opposite.... Aurora propbably will have it worst cause it is located in a junction where traffic always pile up during rush hour and on top of that they are located at the corner of the city meaning to travel around they need to turn a big round every time (Not that it is a major factor but it is still considered a downfall compared to Lot 15).

Having said that.... I don't think either would do well when there is no new appeal to the place....

Eventually, SDP will still get their profits out of both projects. May or may not reach their targets but profit is still profit

Parking

Subang parade belongs to hektar reit, nt singa anymore la. They sold it long time ago

This post has been edited by BRE: Aug 11 2019, 12:35 PM

Having service centre in front better than tnb stn. Aurora so near esg, i thnk will sell better than lot 15, will b good for collecting rental

This post has been edited by BRE: Aug 11 2019, 12:36 PM

Thanks for the update

Need to see the site.

Main road higher than the site....macam plug down into valley....

I don't think everyone have the same thought as you.

Otherwise, they would have bought Isola, which is slightly cheaper PSF when Lot 15 launched and there are quite a few vacant units if I'm not mistaken hence it is not even second hand and you can instantly start renting rather than waiting for the project to be completed.

In terms of specification, according to the SA (not my opinion), Isola is mid-high spec whereas Lot 15 is the highest spec for service apartment from Sime so far. Not sure if this has anything to do with the sales but to me the main factor is the walk ability to the train station. Isola is not near enough to be considered within walking distance to the LRT.

In my opinion, the "Main" factor that Lot 15 take up rate was very good during the initial stage (bear in mind that time it was around RM1k+ psf ) because they must have been enticed to Sime development, with sime constantly talking about TOD and SJCC and also with the land in front of the LRT has been fenced up.... it made sense to buy Lot 15 seeing that Sime might be executing their original SJCC plan (to build a mall, link bridge to lot 15 and cover the drainage etc.).

Now seeing that Sime going ahead to build more service apartment instead of actually accomplishing their "TOD" plan, Lot 15 sales would likely not move and the cannibalization doesn't help either.

Not sure if the "Aurora" would receive well or not but I believe it would be lukewarm like Isola at best depending on the pricing. If it is going to be similar to Lot 15.... then the consumers will have to decide whether the distance to LRT + Big Aeon is more worth it or the distance to empire + subang parade is more worth it. We have yet to see what they are offering for Aurora so we need to wait and see..

Ya ppl may n may nt agree with me, check d selling price n rental for isola now- i believe its good. Tot all isola units sold out by d time lot 15 was launched.

I thnk sdp may have changed some of their tod plans due to slow prop market, thts y they launch aurora as mid priced apmt

This post has been edited by BRE: Aug 11 2019, 05:34 PM

Site lower than road? Doesnt seem tht way to see if i recall correctly

Yes it is slightly lower than the existing road as the flyover starts from there.

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The road level will match with facilities level due to multiple levels of car park floor... Like Lo15 with 8 levels car park 😢