PS1, PS2 in the past and PC currently.

Now that even Sony has confirmed they are looking to bring their exclusives to PC, it makes me wonder... why buy a console when the experience will be better on the PC?

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 14 2020, 02:53 PM

I don't know why you guys are paranoid over early units.

Simply saying SoC doesn't mean jack shit. The console has several SoCs in it. The CPU, GPU and memory controller is on its own SoC. The audio and video output is on another, the network is on another, the I/O is also on another. This is basic 101 embedded system design that they teach you on the first year of computer science.

So the report saying "SoC", okay which one lol?
50% yield may sound low. But you gotta understand the scale of manufacturing before you put that number into perspective. 50% of what?

As for chances of getting a "lemon" is pretty high, that's... putting it in a very simplistic manner. If the part is passed under QC, it'll work. An SoC in its own doesn't just stop working. If it stops working, the problem would be related to the internal circuits connecting the SoC to another part of the system. The SoC doesn't just fail, which is to say the problem would be elsewhere and has almost nothing to do with low yield rate.

People get paranoid when they hear about low yields and then jump to conclusion thinking Sony would just pass all parts even though they borderline passed the QC. Let's put it this way, majority of consumer CPUs and GPUs are actually flawed yields since the dawn of microprocessors. This is more so in consoles as their production is massive. There is no "fresh cut" off the wafer, it's always the flawed ones that gets cut, then partly disabled for further headroom of success.

That gematsu article is click bait as far as I'm concern. Nevermind, gematsu article is indeed stupid.

EDIT Welp, I went and actually read proper report from Bloomberg which took their source from TSMC. So the SoC yield problem in question is for the CPU and GPU.
This is normal because TSMC hasn't had very high yield rates for 7nm since Zen 2 launch. Do you see people complaining about Ryzen 3000 CPUs failing? Do you see people complaining about the Navi, 5000 series GPUs killing themselves?

Quick short answer - No.
Stop worrying over nothing.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 15 2020, 03:52 PM

I'm very sure the majority of the 11 mil units they set to produce this year will be reserved for the US market. Europe and Asian markets, lol... tunggu next year la.

Told you guys it'd be $399 and $499.

Lol.

Dude, they aren't worried at all about people buying 2nd hand PS4 games to get free upgrades to the PS5 versions. That's very little revenue lost in comparison to the much more important thing they care about - system adoption rate.

Losing some revenue for the early cross gen titles for more adoption of the system is a much bigger payoff in the future for them. Sony aren't noobs in business.

Besides, it's not like you can share those 2nd hand discs around either. The PS4 discs will need to remain in the drive of the PS5 before you start the game anyway.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 17 2020, 12:25 PM

Series S looks to be about on par with the PS4 pro, as far as specifications go. You could more or less expect games on S to perform like PS4 pro variants. I do think the difference between X and S will be signicant.

Don't think you'd need a trained eye to recognize the difference between 30fps and 60fps (or higher) though. Pretty sure that would be the biggest most obvious difference between the S and X.

We'll see few titles at 8k just so MS can check their box and say "look we didn't lie, we have 8k games!". Sure, even 16k minesweeper shouldn't be too hard to pull off no.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 17 2020, 02:12 PM

$70 MSRP for games has been a long time coming. I was already surprised that current-gen didn't go for $70, 7 years ago.

A slim form, slotted UHD OEM drive from Panasonic costs about $20 now. Sony probably has requirements for the drive to have a specific mold to fit into its console form factor.

Sony of course wants you to buy the disc version because that's where they would break even if the user adds on top a PS+ sub and a launch title.

SEA ain't getting shit until next year lol.... or, theoretically you buy the games first I guess?

To be frank, Demon's Soul remake and DMC5SE would keep me busy for a whole year if there are no other games. Not that I'm getting the PS5 though.

Already rocking a 77" OLED LG C9. But the PS5 ain't going to make full use of that 120hz display anyways, as much as I hope it to.

Failed england 101.

How does the PS4 experience the same joy as the PS5 without the DualSense controller and SSD?

Hold on, why is everyone assuming that PS4 games on the PS5 will automatically receive an upgrade patch or will play better? Sony could choose to not do anything and just use the excuse of preserving "stability" so they don't have to tell devs to update their games.

Just because MS is doing an exemplary job in backwards compatibility, doesn't mean Sony will follow suit.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 18 2020, 10:43 PM

All I'm saying is that don't assume Sony will do B/C like MS. Sony is aiming for stability and not upgrades. MS aims for both.

It supports both. But that's through audio bitstream for movies only, not games.

Game audio are not encoded in either Dolby or DTS codecs and will run as PCM. This is because game audio files is NOT a single audio track like a movie, game audio files are broken up into dozens of files in varying bitrate, all of which can only be read by the engine.

Not really.

They lose less money with the disc version. Hence it only makes sense to sell the more expensive. People are desperate enough to buy the alternate model if the one they want is somehow "always out of stock".

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Sep 21 2020, 06:49 PM

Why are we talking about 4k 120? 1080p 120 isn't even a standard yet lmao.

Well, 4k120 is not achievable. There's no point talking about it, all it does is brew pointless speculation.

The new Samsung 980 Pro is in my mind, no doubt on Sony's whitelist of NVME PCIE4.0 SSDs already.

That's the kind of drive you need to about match the internal one.