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vanitas
post Mar 31 2019, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 31 2019, 04:03 PM)
I survived crypto bear and -23% in StashAway, looking forward to recession ady!
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A bit off topic from this thread, still believing crypto is the future or sell them all already?
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post Mar 31 2019, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Mar 31 2019, 04:27 PM)
Targeting Bitcoin 100K by 2022-2024
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Money stucked and waiting for rebound.
Or you did feel it is the future and may top up before the date you mentioned?
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post Apr 6 2019, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(JungWoo @ Apr 6 2019, 12:38 PM)
Is our fund protected by pidm?
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Invest in US ETF but protected by Malaysia PIDM? Sadly, no.
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post Jun 28 2019, 10:15 PM

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Second robo advisor coming to Malaysia,
https://fintechnews.my/20967/wealthtech-mal...o-robo-advisor/

Official website and pricing structure,
https://mytheo.my/mytheo/hello-from-mytheo/price-structure

Edit: Not sure was it an old news for you all, just sharing as I seeing the above article today.

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post Jul 25 2019, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Jul 25 2019, 01:17 PM)
My question is, since there is no dividend or interest given every year, so there is no compound interest?

So it depends on the performance of the etfs when we are ready to cash out. It purely bet on the future market.
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1. There will be dividends for reinvestment.
2. It depends how you interpret compound interest. Is reinvestment considered as compound interest for you? Or you only consider something like e.g. FD 4% compound interest per year?
3. And yes it depends on the performance of the etfs, and SA's optimization feature. You may lose money here, both short term and long term. But in long term, the probability to lose money is much lower.

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post Jul 28 2020, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jul 28 2020, 10:31 AM)
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 28 2020, 02:01 PM)
since some of us are affected does anyone here file a formal complaint to SC?
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SC investigating already.
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post Jul 28 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 28 2020, 02:09 PM)
where u get update saying SC investigating?
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As the screenshot quoted earlier stating StashAway is in touch with SC already.
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post Jul 28 2020, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 28 2020, 02:48 PM)
not bad enough for people to withdraw money and close account lor. Security leak, debit card kena deducted, always under maintenance for fun, cannot do bank transaction, but don't see people changing banks laugh.gif
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For CIMB, I think many people changing bank and complain in this forum alone, no?
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post Jul 28 2020, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 28 2020, 02:55 PM)
based on the small sample size on people bitching on my fb, the same people still using cimb for their business and personal use laugh.gif
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Because they are not affected? I am also using CIMB, but didn't get the trouble as other users getting thus didn't intend to change bank.

So I think those affected by SAMY bugs reserved the right to complain them, complain SC or even withdraw all money from them? I don't get those unaffected by the bugs keep protecting SAMY for what actually.
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post Jul 28 2020, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 28 2020, 04:31 PM)
it is financial footprint that should not be modify
they should have proactively inform me that we have cancel the auto debit which schedule on monday and will:
1. refund all the money including the 1st 1k that is suppose to be invested
OR
2. refund the wrongly auto debit and the 1k will be invested soon

so do you know which option are they taking?
that is why they have to communicate without just changing the status
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I support uncle on this. Canceling auto-debit should be notified. It is not a trivial matter at all.

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post Jul 28 2020, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jul 28 2020, 09:17 PM)
they havent see stock market vendor trading platform down issue for 1 hours plus..

here all because one direct debit issue sudah got trust issue..

ahh nvm..no point i talking right now because i got see the worst nightmare
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I think platform down is a much smaller issue than unauthorized debit.
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post Jul 28 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Jul 28 2020, 09:32 PM)
tongue.gif  tongue.gif out of own interest, u guys might know I was comparing StashAway risk index 8% portfolio with FSM fixed income funds for bond port

i obtained annualized return rate from 19 Jul 2017 - 30 Jun 2020 benchmark SA8 from source
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then i obtain the same period cumulative return rate from FSM using FSM tools

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convert them to annualized return rate using

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i compared with some fixed income funds from FSM SG too.

here my results in performance descending.
annualized return rate from 19 Jul 2017 - 30 Jun 2020 benchmark SA8

amanah syariah trust FI = 7.99%
nomura i-income FI = 7.83%
Eastspring Investments - US High Investment Grade Bond AS SGD = 5.98%
StashAway 8 = 5.7%
United High Grade Corporate Bond A Acc SGD = 5.51%
Legg Mason Western Asset - Global Bond Trust A Acc SGD = 4.21%


just for sharing, any input is welcome, in case my calculation is wrong or so.
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Stashaway has lower fees in the long run.
But certainly some funds in the same risk category would outperform it even with higher fees.
In the low risk category i.e. bond / fixed income, the fee in fund isn't high at the first place, so it is even easier to outperform Stashaway.

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post Jul 28 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jul 28 2020, 09:51 PM)
actually platform down at market open is much bigger issue thn unauthorized debit..

let say share price keep drop more thn 20%..but  platform cant login to sell the share..losses how? who bear?

if unauthorized debit, can refund 100% ma..

so u think..which is bigger issue..  smile.gif
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Yes, it is still an issue. But perhaps you can call broker to sell instead?

Anyway it was a big IF drop >20%. There might be also IF you are paying surgery fee in hospital but bank money got drained all?
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post Jul 28 2020, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Jul 28 2020, 10:01 PM)
problem is..what if u call ur remisier, ur remisier others few hundred client also same time call him..
how ya..

and..what if broker trading platform also down due to tht vendor?
how ya?
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The IFs goes on. But public generally accepted any platform / website went down (even Google, banks), but not unauthorized transaction. Because platform down is common, but this auto debit is really first time.
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post Jul 29 2020, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jul 29 2020, 12:02 AM)
If next time got one banker accidentally transfer money wrongly to my account, will I need go to jail due to I stole someone money?

If just a human error did by curlec, SA already do their best to refund all the money. Those 2nd or 3rd batch auto debit may be just because key in wrongly by curlec and the system automaticly follow the instruction to process, SA should not able to stop it.
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If next time got one banker accidentally transfer your money wrongly to my account, will you still believe the banker?
Some will forgive, some won't, as simple as that.
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post Jul 29 2020, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 29 2020, 12:18 AM)
I think I am more scared of StashAway backend making rogue trades than just accidentally debiting my bank accounts. Coz that one will give us unintended exposures to risks we didnt sign up for.
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Actually there is no details on the issue yet. Stashaway claimed it is Curlec problem, and everyone believes lol. I see Curlec is used by Axiata, HellloGold and more (according to their home page), but no issue on them?
What if Stashaway backend got bit issue too...
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post Jul 29 2020, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jul 29 2020, 12:25 AM)
Ya I won't forgive the banker, in this scenario the banker (Curlex) transfer my money (investor) to your account (SA).
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The backend involved two parties bro. Are you really sure is Curlec problem solely?
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post Jul 29 2020, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Jul 29 2020, 12:38 AM)
Not sure.

BTW, is the whole process of auto debit like this way :

1) SA - request
2) Curlec - process
3) Bank - Allow

Anyone know?
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SA also not sure, else explaining already. So don't prejudge yet.
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post Jul 29 2020, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 29 2020, 01:10 AM)
uncle sokong
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but most don't care, as long as money is back. Already forgive before the need to explain anything. lol

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