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Ramjade
post Mar 27 2019, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(terrysoh @ Mar 27 2019, 07:49 PM)
any recommendation on where to just get S&P 500 that is cheap and convenient?

I saw the DIY thread, it looks like i need to hoop money to multiple parties and websites, i just want something simple and denominated in USD.
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That's the best way. Cheap way. If you don't want go through all the hoops to save caah then open IB whitelabel account and fund it directly using Malaysian banks.

Of course, keep in mind if you buy from Malaysian banks, be prepared to pay more. Higher exchange rates, higher commission, dividend fees, maintenance fees.

Of course Malaysian banks have been known to block transaction to IB. So yeah the hoops help to unblock those restrictions.

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post Apr 4 2019, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Apr 3 2019, 10:05 PM)
Can Malaysians open a StashAway SG account?
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Yes can. See above.

QUOTE(roarus @ Apr 3 2019, 11:41 PM)
Should be alright if you have an account with the local big 3 banks: DBS/POSB, UOB or OCBC. Best to check with them directly if you plan to use money transfer like Instarem (downside is you incur 0.45% for MYR -> SGD and 0.1% for SGD->USD). Refer here: https://www.stashaway.sg/faq/360007429373-w...t-deposits-from
I'm guessing SA SG and SA MY have separate Saxo books since they're both dancing with different countries' monetary authorities. Amanda has no idea why Saxo is being so quirky with SA MY as compared to SA SG either.
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My guess is RM and SGD. RM need to investigate the money more than SGD.
Ramjade
post May 24 2019, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(GenY @ May 24 2019, 05:35 PM)
Diversified ETFs also no protection when the stupid herd decides to sell blindly 

Most of my gains  this year wiped out sad.gif
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Keep in mind that underlying stuff are still stocks and if you cannot stand sell off, best not to invest in stocks. Stick with safe stuff like FD, EPF and amanah saham. Every year get monoey. Value never drop.

QUOTE(GenY @ May 24 2019, 10:20 PM)
Too early to tell, now only May.

Aiyah, I think most of us lost at least a few % from our portfolio thanks to f***ing Tariff Man.

Naturally a person in his 30s like me would have lost "more" because he put more in the market compared to a person in his 20s.
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I love Tariff man because of him, he made stuff cheap allow me to buy at cheaper price. wub.gif wub.gif
Ramjade
post May 25 2019, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ May 25 2019, 10:07 PM)
trade war lo, still duwan sell? hehe
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Prepares cash thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif
Ramjade
post May 31 2019, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(ultimate93 @ May 31 2019, 08:13 PM)
Hi, would like to ask the different in management fee compare to local mutual fund

Is stashaway roughly charge 1.2% per annum only when compare to 5% mutual fund annual fee + deposit charge?
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Stashaway pricing starts from nett 0.8% not 1.2%p.a
https://www.stashaway.my/pricing

Mutual funds from 1.3-2% depending on funds. Need to see the prospectus and fundfacsheet. It's under expense ratio.
This is not including service charge which will be charged by seller upon buying.
If factor in service charge, additional
5% if buy from banks and agents
1.75% from FSM MY
1.5% from eunittrust MY

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post Jun 1 2019, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(ultimate93 @ Jun 1 2019, 04:58 PM)
From what i seen there is a 0.x% of ETF management fee right? So it rougly 1.2 per annum?

Do you know how mutual fund actually charged?
I invested a fund few years back, from PBB, what i remember, it charged me 5.x% when purchase and also some charge when deposit money (additional invest)
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I don't think is 1.2%. From their pricing looks like max is 0.8%. Keep in mind most ETF if you go DIY is in the range of 0.05%

Yes. Unit trust generally if you buy they will charge you service charge upfront. The amount charged is as mentioned.
What you describe is service charge.
Additional charges is fund fees as mentioned starting from 1.5% upwards.
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post Jun 20 2019, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(GenY @ Jun 20 2019, 07:03 PM)
I whine, but I also held firm with my stocks/ETFs, which has mostly recovered  laugh.gif

So did u buy or are u still waiting?  hmm.gif

If later, u may get your chance at the end of this month .... or maybe not.
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I took the opportunity to scoop some companies up during the recent sell down. But not fast enough as market rebounded.

I don't do ETF or robo. I invest mainly for income (dividends). My Rm3k allocation for PRS for this year is still untouched. sad.gif
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post Jun 20 2019, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ Jun 20 2019, 08:07 PM)
NYSE or KLSE
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SGX. NYSE still expensive. That one need at least 10-20% correction.
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post Jun 21 2019, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Reventon @ Jun 21 2019, 08:24 PM)
SA is not good for large AUM ?
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Nope. Once you reach USD100k, best to DIY via interactive broker. There's a telegram chat about this involving Singaporean investors.

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post Jun 26 2019, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(lifenoregret @ Jun 26 2019, 01:41 PM)
Just joined weeks ago and based on MYR it’s 0.9% down haha

Plan to use this as a urge control, any urge to spend on cheong or lottery will put same amount into StashAway, if I do spend on those activity then I will put double the amount into this platform..

Other than this will continue DCA, btw any other platform recommended that is secure for invest/as a savings as well?
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Endowus SG

If you want to buy gold, buy the index which track the price.
GLD
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post Jun 26 2019, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 26 2019, 03:53 PM)
Endowus retail min buy in was S$10000 months ago, did they reduce the barrier of entry?
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Nope. He/she wanted some where to put money. So give pain, might as well start with big amount. biggrin.gif Then won't feel like burning the money.
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post Jun 27 2019, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 27 2019, 05:21 PM)
If from SA, sure they feel the heat from new player myTheo. Lol

Just got license from SC earlier this year.

MT still new and the sites look amateur. No infos and the fees high than SA .1% but their ETF listed out for us to see and 95% diff from what we have in SA.

More player more competitive.

Where is AW. Earliest on the edge paper now nothing
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AW can't do it as the person can't own fractional share. One can own fractional share with Stashaway.

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post Aug 17 2019, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Aug 16 2019, 10:58 PM)
Do u think that stashaway is suitable for retiree? For someone who EPF is already max out and FD promo nowadays is only 3.x %.
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Yes is very safe as overtime, index invesring will go up. Keep in mind index investing require you to sell away your gains for income. So if that year you want to withdraw is bear year, then good luck. If Malaysian govt were to approve Stashaway as sub of EPF, they can have my money. Chances of it being approved is nil.

QUOTE(y3ivan @ Aug 16 2019, 11:09 PM)
probably not because your horizon is about 5 years. stashaway is for 10-20 years horizon (you can of course withdraw but the returns may not be that great and the risk taken is much higher).

depends on your personal preference and appetite for risk. if you have small capital, the difference in risk is not that big, it make more sense in ASB or unit trust or FD since there is literally no risk taken.
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Unit trust no risks? You got it be joking. Unit trust invest in stocks and bond market. Difference between unit trust and Stashaway is one is active, there's buying and selling by a group of people. Stashaway is index investing. They just buy market and give you market returns with attempts to. Mix and match different market for best result.

QUOTE(woonsc @ Aug 17 2019, 08:24 AM)
Yeah that's what Singaporean told me. Never keep it in Ringgit
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Sad but true.

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post Aug 20 2019, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(niceguypenang @ Aug 20 2019, 09:32 PM)
i am new to this stashway stuff.. may i know the total fee charge per year 1.1%  adding all up for less than 50k investment?

what is the annual return performance we can expect ? 6-10% ?
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Don't expect always positive returns on yearly basis. Be prepared for negative returns. That's investing. If you cannot handle any negative returns, then stick with safe investment vessel.
Promo FDs, amanah saham fixed price fund. Guaranteed cannot lose money.
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post Aug 21 2019, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Aug 21 2019, 02:22 AM)
Guys, may I know why you choose Stashaway rather than investing into 100% S&P500? Also, isn't this quite high fees compared to out there?
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I don't do robo. I DIY via IBKR. Yes I agree Stashaway fees is rather steep for a robot (when you compare with US robot). Reason I don't do robot is ETF investing force you to sell when you need the cash. Dividend investing on the other hand means you get cash coming in every few months. You can pick your favourite dividend stocks. Not so much with ETF investing.

QUOTE(calapia @ Aug 21 2019, 09:19 AM)
hm.... i can stomach that but ain't SA suppose to re-balance the portfolio seeing the downward trend.....??
anyway i have diff portfolio created as well. perhaps i will use one with max risk and other remains the same to test water...
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Supposed. Easy for them to claim backrest result. But if they can predict, they are God already. It has not been tested in a real market sell down like in 2008.

QUOTE(-CoupeFanatic- @ Aug 21 2019, 09:30 AM)
it's very hard for us to DCA through DIY investing. I don't think it's possible for such small amounts, but it is very much possible for stashaway. the tradeoff here is that we are being charged the annual fees which is very much reasonable in my opinion.
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Is possible if you are using IBKR. Cost is about USD5/transaction or USD few cents per transaction.
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post Aug 27 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(collingwood @ Aug 27 2019, 02:39 PM)
How do you justify paying the management fee? Say you buy exactly the same as SA 36% risk index portfolio, with RM50000, your fee will be RM4000 per annum.
Using IBKR to buy the mix of XLE,VGK,IJR,XLC,XLV,XLK,XLY and IVV with the same ratio as SAMY does, RM50000 (or USD12000), your annual fee would only be USD 226.49 per annum, or about RM955.
Only upside of SA is that they dont charge you for sales other than conversion fee of 0.1%. That and they don't have minimum + auto reoptimizing without more fee. But still that does not help when the fee is about 4x higher...
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That's why people said up to RM50k use robot. More than that DIY.
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post Aug 27 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(collingwood @ Aug 27 2019, 03:01 PM)
Any links/ resources that I can read more into? Thank you!
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I can't find where I read it. Is something to do with the fees you will be paying in an annual basis.
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post Aug 27 2019, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Aug 27 2019, 06:20 PM)
The biggest hurdle is to have a Singapore bank account, you should try poking local Malaysia branch to let you open an iSavvy account, before resorting to more expensive options like paying a visit to DBS at MBFC.

Once you got a bank account there things are lot easier.

So easiest combo for Malaysians not residing in Singapore: Maybank isavvy saving + Maybank Kim Eng brokerage
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So easiest combo for Malaysians not residing in Singapore: Maybank isavvy saving + Maybank Kim Eng brokerage

Correction
Cimb Fastsaver + FSM SG or
Cimb Fastsaver + Interactive broker or whitelabels
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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Aug 31 2019, 10:36 AM)
1 thing has been bothering me, so i would like to ask opinions on this.

When is the best time to leave SA and to 'reap the reward'? i think it should be the time the goal you set forth is achieved. And then re-invest back SA, with new goals. Sounds okay?

thing is.... investment in SA is not like in FD/ savings, in the sense that the principal is guaranteed, and so is the interest. whereas SA value fluctuates, and returns not guaranteed, and no dividends too.

hope my concern makes sense, and my exit strategy sounds reasonable?
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That's the problem with index investing. If market is in bear mode, your return can drop by 20-30%. Imagine needing to liquidate at 20-30% discount.
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post Sep 2 2019, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(-CoupeFanatic- @ Sep 2 2019, 12:43 AM)
The same goes to dividend investing though, you need to sell when you need the money, so how is it different from dividend investing?  hmm.gif
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Nope. Not the same. If your dividend is large enough even with drop of 20-30% you will still receive your dividends. No need
to sell. Best part is only some will be affected. Not all stocks.
Eg you received RM12000/year, if market drop by 20-30% and assumed you received dividend of only RM10k (dividend drop), you will still receive RM10k provided you don't sell. Dividend investing means money is coming in every month or every few months providided you don't sell anything.

If you go for capital gains, drop in 20-30% means the amount available for you to already drop by 20-30%.

Hope is clear.

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