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post May 26 2021, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 25 2021, 09:06 AM)
On the other hand I have no regret with my lump sums, if any the regret is I should've bought more.

After I consider personal investment records, including many which are actually loss making, I think lump sum is still better. But believe me I was a student of DCA. And even today, I still practice it.
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Could it also be that lump sum was made at the right time too for those that eventually turned profit? I can understand what you mean, as I had those moments. Now, I'll tread according to the investment vehicle I'm subscribing too... without haste...and see if lump sum of DCA is a better approach. I'm inclined to think that both have its pros and cons, and plus a stroke of luck, it can change the outcomes. So one should not beat themselves up over it.

QUOTE(flying_manatee @ May 26 2021, 11:28 AM)
Ah ok... bro when you mean all-time high was it a market high or a USD forex high? Just wondering
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post May 27 2021, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 27 2021, 09:40 AM)
No luck involved. I am not talking about accidentally lump suming during the dips.

Now if you do your homework right, as in select the right investments such as stashaway or a good stock or a good ETF, history has already proven that it rises over time. End of story.

Anytime you think it is all time high, get scared, fall back to DCA, only to prove yourself right in the first place(yes this is a good investment), yes it is rising, but then you maintain your DCA pace, you just buy less and less.

The only time DCA works better is when the market is actually going down, not up. In that case yes you get more, but it helps me not much to see that it is still actually going down. Again by the case of maths and probability of a good instrument which should generally be going up, this scenario should be way less in occurrence than the going up scenario, which you will profit more by lump sum and forget.

I dont beat myself up, I have almost not much in spare cash lying around.

But I will not shame anybody who stick to DCA.
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Thanks for sharing your views.
Btw, when you said little spare cash...did you mean that you don't keep any in FDs? Reason for asking is I see more people are conserving cash. I see FDs in some ways, as cash, since returns are low, but at least still something than zero.
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post May 30 2021, 03:05 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ May 27 2021, 04:09 PM)
These days, I highly doubt anyone who says "cash" means literal bank notes and/or coins. So yes you're right - FD is in fact "cash", added with the fact that you can easily do them online, so it's not like the past where you had to go to bank counters queue to place/withdraw. It's almost as liquid as your regular saving account, but with higher interest.
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Yeah, I know it sounded silly when I asked that. Cuz I do perceive cash as in those you have in savings account, not FD per se. So just wanted to know specifically if poster did mean anything else smile.gif

QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 27 2021, 04:27 PM)
ah..no...i always have sufficient cash for 6 months in case no work, lying in my housing loan as prepayment.

whatever that amount is, I dont mind if I don't get significant returns from there. So if you don't have any housing loan I think either MMF(FSM CMF is a great example) or FD is fine.

After this minimal buffer, personally I have my investments which are split into buckets...so you have those long term (low risk like ASM,ASW,SSPN,PRS), medium term (SA, FSM), and equities (my DIY Peter lynch / Jack Bogle Portfolio). I have very small >10% of cash here, compared to all the other instruments like equitiy or debt or gold.
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Ohh, this I did not expect would be classified as cash. So you're saying for any excess that you have, you'd dump them to your housing loan to offset the interests first, and withdraw when required to do whatever you need? I'm also considering to do this, but just don't know if the 'saving' is worth it as I'm not familiar at all, hence, just paying exact amount as it is

Btw, so many replies on Simple's transaction time. People should learn to read previous replies and ask when still don't get it. Very patient of most tai kors here to respond, lol...
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post May 31 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 30 2021, 11:10 AM)
Sounded like lee82gx got a flexi loan which has a linked current account, so what they can do is put cash in that current account to reduce interest, then withdraw money from that account if needed.

It's actually a good option for emergency caah parking too biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 30 2021, 09:13 PM)
Yes, excess money in that account will generate savings for me at 3.0% p.a. Daily rest.
Bingo yes. But if you have say more than 1 housing loan, then you only need 1 flexi one. Don’t force all of them to be flexi, as usually there is a current account maintenance cost.
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Thanks for sharing this. I have housing loans too and I'm guessing this can be a good way to park emergency cash, while reducing interest charged (assuming one do not have a decent saving accounts paying more interest).

How's everyone projecting the outlook for Q3? Any thoughts to share or everyone dah going auto-mode? I'm the latter, haha
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post May 31 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 31 2021, 05:00 PM)
outlook -ve for msia. I think I give up predicting anything anymore. I'm only sure it is positive for long term.
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Lol, give up would be the right sentiment with most, I think. Feels the same not only with SA, but with others. So I'm changing my mindset to keep reminding that this is all for the long term, jangan harap anything in less than a year. Either take part or don't (keep money in bank).
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post Jun 1 2021, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ May 31 2021, 11:51 PM)
I am a grandpa here and I have to bring out my story again

I started stashaway in August 2017, it was red for me throughout 2018, then I got -23% in December 2018.

Guess what I did? Hodl, DCA. Way up green now.
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Inspirational quote right there wink.gif
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post Jun 3 2021, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 2 2021, 05:29 PM)
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Kesian nya, see my portfolio value far above net deposits. All you need is hodl and DCA.
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I can only dream of seeing this graph in mine someday, lol
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post Jun 16 2021, 01:31 AM

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I did it...I've moved my StashAway app away from home screen (less drastic than deleting it as some suggested, lol)...and boy, it felt good...no temptation to click on it, stressed over it, whatever.

Let it autopilot top up every two weeks behind the scenes. Market up down, don't care for now since it's for long term. Those who got itchy hands, try it smile.gif
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post Aug 7 2021, 09:13 PM

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Long time no check in here...reason for coming back is to leave a mark here and see if I have any regrets few months later, lol...current loss is broadening with KWEB mainly dragging it down. I did what I did best, deleted the app from my main page, only check whenever I remember. Sad to see the overall performance is horrible, coming to 4 figure loss soon, lol... guess will have to keep doing DCA until next year and see if there's any positive upside.

Who's still in green to-date?
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post Aug 7 2021, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ Aug 7 2021, 10:20 PM)
barely in the green. I am ok with pessimistic market behavior but the gov direction imposed in china which affected KWEB (private tutoring ban on profit, negative news on online game - tencent related, anti competition law, DiDi etc), that is something that I am worry about. In a bear market, I can always look forward to recovery, but a gov decision on how things should run? that's something different.
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What's your revised holding period based on these factors? Or no change?
I'm patient, so can still wait till next year to see if it's still as bad as it looks...unless it's severely hit, or better competitors come along, I'm gonna still let it park here for some years.
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post Aug 14 2021, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(stormseeker92 @ Aug 12 2021, 09:52 PM)
KWEB's ass getting whooped again.
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Almost near to -50% for my KWEB, lol...I'm still DCA-ing. My 36% is the worst performer compared with lower RIs.

Just sharing, not complaining, since I'm clear this is for my long term and also for diversification. Unless it really goes trash downhill, then have to re-evaluate.
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post Oct 5 2021, 07:03 PM

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How's everyone holding up?
Still DCA-ing, although can't lie to say that I'm not down when seeing bigger deficit now than before, lol
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post Oct 5 2021, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Oct 5 2021, 07:27 PM)
-11%, not within expectation but still very much within tolerances. Not increasing monthly amount anymore and no longer doing extra lump-sum when market drops. Just gonna maintain this amount of DCA and ride it out.

Might consider fully withdrawing and exit Stashaway when I am net positive in a few years because I have not much use for Stashaway anymore.
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Hmm, I'm also thinking of not adding on more after this year end. Not giving up per se, but felt like I should maintain and see through it the following year and take a decision then.
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post Nov 10 2021, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 9 2021, 01:11 PM)
I've been staring at it for a few years too, still not convinced it isn't a massive ponzi scheme built on top of proper future looking technology. When the bubble burst and the tech matures into what it's suppose to be, I'll put my full weight behind it.

This is what my current allocation looks like after exiting Bursa, Stashaway, Wahed, MyTheo and LUNO.
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My FOMO was real on crypto, but never been happier not to jump on it cuz I have less stress putting money on things I don't understand.

Back to the main reason for quoting you...why did you exit Bursa and all others, lol...especially Bursa?

On SA, I finally saw my portfolio being green for the first time, not sure how long it'd last.

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post Nov 12 2021, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Nov 10 2021, 01:43 AM)
Hmm, a few things:

1. I don't want to stock pick.

2. I don't believe in dividend chasing (e.g. buying nothing but Maybank until the day I retire)

3. I don't want to trade in a market that is constantly and easily manipulated (IMO).

4. I don't want to trade in a market that has traded sideways for the past decade.

5. Bursa doesn't have the ETF I want to trade.

Couple in all that, on top of the fact that my trading cost somehow remains almost the same if not sometimes cheaper buying international stocks... I really don't see a reason to stay in Bursa at all. I consider touching Bursa my biggest stumble in my investing life so far.

I might be wrong, but I am happy to be corrected. I pretty much intended to exit Bursa the moment I felt confident in Stashaway even.
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The last bit about Bursa being my biggest stumble, hits right to my heart, lol...same here. Thanks for sharing.

Time flies, come Feb, will see how my SA performs then and make a call there to continue or stay on.
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post Nov 14 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(ahkia @ Nov 12 2021, 12:02 PM)
SRI 36% previously. Losing about 8% few months ago. 
Now grab the chance to withdraw after paper gain RM50.
Still seeking for better investment platform now...
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QUOTE(ernie ball @ Nov 10 2021, 04:30 PM)
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My personal observation is SA fund is quick to go down and slow to go back up, I'm not sure why. Around 40k over a year and I earned rm500 (I think).

I would just buy SPY periodically from now on, I just think it's better to follow US economy, and earn the average return.
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Seems about right on your observation, and I also have about the same portfolio but with worse performance. And looks like many are taking the opportunity to sell now, including me, contemplating, lol

QUOTE(jonoave @ Nov 10 2021, 07:24 PM)
If you're just keeping just for Stashaway Simple, I'd recommend Versa.

Much faster deposit and withdrawal, 1-2 days. With Simple I've seen deposit take up 3-4 days, and withdrawal up to a 1 week.
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Nov 10 2021, 11:17 PM)
Versa will give you better compounded gains rather than SA simple because of its liquidity
Yeah Versa better for liquidity as MMF in the market  rclxms.gif
Filter your portfolio under buy order as the price will be displayed there
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Looks like I should consider Versa as well for SS alternative, if I do exit SA overall.

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post Nov 14 2021, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Nov 14 2021, 03:15 PM)
For seniors in their 40s say if they wanna secure their retirement more, edging towards to 1m mark might not be a bad idea, say if they reach 1m early (maybe 50yo), they can the interest/1m extra balance out fund their kids buy house or something else.
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We're so young, you call us seniors liao, I personally felt gutted, lol...anyway, I do envy younger gens nowadays, more access to financial information, tools and support, unlike us when we first started.
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post Nov 15 2021, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Nov 14 2021, 08:50 PM)
Ops sorry.

I mean my managers and senior head mostly at age late 30s and into 40s.so I just say senior,didnt meant to say old.
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Haha, no worries, I was taking it lightly, advance age memang have to admit it's advance, can't turn back the clock, lol

I certainly hope more people can retire by 40s, and enjoy life rather than working till we die...it's good to be Gen Z sometimes, more awareness to plan towards financial freedom unlike times before.
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post Nov 27 2021, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 27 2021, 03:31 PM)
Interesting. My portfolio only tanked 3% from the meltdown yesterday.
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Sorry ya, but what happened yesterday, what meltdown?
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post Nov 28 2021, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Nov 27 2021, 09:46 PM)
is stashaway your only investment platform?
Its pretty hard not to notice the dip lol
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It's not, been avoiding checking it.

Yeah, it dropped quite a bit since the last I checked when it was positive weeks ago. But I thought it wasn't a 'tank', so didn't think there was any meltdown.
QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 27 2021, 10:31 PM)
i'm at 36% but EWA KWEB XLE all dropped 4% thought my portfolio will be hit by that much too laugh.gif before i slept it was around 6% but seemed like it recovered later in the day biggrin.gif
good for you. truly in the spirit of invest and forget laugh.gif
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Lol, thanks, I try!
QUOTE(onthefly @ Nov 28 2021, 12:00 AM)
new covid variant discovered
what did  " doh.gif guy " did until got banned ?
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Thanks for the answer, lol, didn't know this will have impact on them.

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