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Jan 25 2021, 11:11 AM
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Congrats StashAway! What a great milestone... hope they continue to grow & keep improving their service!
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Feb 3 2021, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(rexus @ Feb 3 2021, 07:11 PM) How would StashAway compare with investing in ETFs directly via a broker? Obviously. StashAway is a no brainer. Just thinking out loud: StashAway charges 0.8% annual fee (for first RM50,000) while some ETFs (VTI, VOO) have low expense ratio in the region of 0.04%. StashAway annual fee seems to absorb all transaction charges while independent investment will be subject to brokerage fee, etc. Flexibility in terms of choice of ETFs, of course you can't choose what you hold in StashAway. Prior work needed, more due diligence would be required for independent investments. If you have direct access to ETFs in USA via a brokerage, would you still go with StashAway? Say you only have RM300 to invest this month, how do you go about splitting it into several ETFs at the same time? KWEB alone is already $92 per share. Sure you can buy fractional shares I guess, but the time & effort involved? encladius_ and roystevenung liked this post
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Feb 6 2021, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Feb 6 2021, 09:53 PM) Ideally we shouldn't panic sell.But I did take a big portion out in Feb 2020, when the market started dipping because the writing was on the wall at the time (hey don't judge me I'm just human I didn't lose money, but I also missed the buying the dip. Huhu. I think it comes down to your risk appetite, if cannot deal with a 30% loss, then maybe should lower the risk. |
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Feb 10 2021, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Feb 10 2021, 11:01 AM) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas-1-5b-...-073527943.html I am also very skeptical of Tesla, especially after its investment in Bitcoin. It's written by a long time Tesla bear and has a price target of $67 per stock. You gotta be kidding me. I'm not a Tesla fanboy but come on. He's expecting Tesla to crash 90% from here? I see BTC as a good thing. What will be your reasoning that Tesla is a bubble? |
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Feb 10 2021, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Feb 10 2021, 12:09 PM) I am not even sure how was it a good thing. Tesla is EV company, doesn't have any relation with crypto. USD is losing its value over the past year. Converting some of its USD to a deflationary currency like Bitcoin makes sense to me. We can all choose not to agree but we are not Elon Musk and I certainly won't bet against him. Let's just see how this plays out.It was like telling Maybank (or any bank), TNB, Top Gloves, or even EPF buy crypto is a good thing. |
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Feb 11 2021, 01:06 PM
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Feb 11 2021, 05:16 PM
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Feb 12 2021, 12:23 PM
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Feb 12 2021, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Feb 12 2021, 03:35 PM) Even with commission free trades which are common nowadays, it is hard to replicate the StashAway portfolio when the capital is low, because most brokers do not offer free fractional share Trades. Yea, people don't seem to realize only IBKR allows fractional shares & you have to pay $120 usd a year for that feature. Unless they have a huge capital, DIY trying to replicate StashAway is just not worth the time & effort.In other words agree with you wholly. I’d go as far as saying I’m willingly agree to being charged 1% per annum for small trades, fractional shares, from MYR. How much principal per year I will let them charge is another matter...I’m now at 5 digits, I don’t think it will cross to 6 digits anytime soon. Quazacolt liked this post
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Feb 14 2021, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Feb 14 2021, 03:51 PM) That is wrong concept, the idea is about Now, right now it is already at loss. That loss is a new starting point I agree with this thinking. Cut loss move on. Don't hang on to losers. Opportunity cost.To make it easy for people to underrstand, someone start with 100. After investing with port A for 6 months, He loss 5% and now have 95 in that port If he sell now and switch to port B with higher upside(consequently downside as well) he might gain 10% in the next 1 year 95 X 1.1 = 104.5 If he maintain with conservative portfolio, he might gain back his loss and then some after 1 year but due to less equity allocation in an uptrending market, let say 6 % 95 X 1.06 = 100.7 This is a normal idea in stock market, sometime you just have to accept your loss and move forward. The idea is the damage is already done and loss is already there whether you realised it or not,the point now is about the future. Unless you think that it is going to a bear market soon and your conservative portfolio would have a lower downside compared to equity heavy port. Fed is about to inject another trillion dollar into the system. Market is going up. Don't allocate so much in bonds. This post has been edited by cucumber: Feb 14 2021, 03:56 PM Quazacolt liked this post
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Mar 1 2021, 06:35 PM
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Mar 5 2021, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(jacksonpang @ Mar 5 2021, 09:53 AM) Interesting.. so based on the graph, people invested around Jan 08-ish will have negative profit in Jan 12-ish .. 4 years, that's a big heart attack at first, then only they will gain profit, haha That is why having hard assets like gold, properties is important because while the s&p 500 was down during that period, gold went up a lot.Nice sharing btw, thanks! |
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Mar 16 2021, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 16 2021, 05:08 PM) Just for your reference, my route for DIY cost about ~RM25~RM35 max per entry, I'll likely able to deposit maximum twice a year given my current financials, so RM50-RM70 a year. Rebalancing cheap because I am going for a simple 2 fund portfolio, and I try to rebalance by depositing without selling. Time wise, research and setting up is maybe 2 days, then I suspect its likely less than half a day a year to keep it running? Which broker are you using to do DIY?That means at RM5000-7000 under Stashaway's management, I hit the breakeven point for annual cost. Any extra money I invest into SA from there onwards cost me more than DIY route. Hence why I really hope SA can bring fees down as soon as possible. Correction welcomed if my maths are wrong! |
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Mar 16 2021, 08:38 PM
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Let's be honest, how many of you feel comfortable having 6 figure of your life savings in oversea brokers that are not protected by SC Malaysia? preducer liked this post
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Mar 16 2021, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 16 2021, 09:06 PM) Who cares about SC when they are only 4th tier regulator Well, maybe not you. But I care. |
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Mar 17 2021, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 16 2021, 11:56 PM) I'll get reprimanded for asking this, but I browsed information on recurring deposit and the posts here mentioned about monthly settings, which I can also see from SA app. How do you guys do it for weekly? Or some people even do it daily. I'm not familiar with Jompay, which I've seen been mentioned some times here, if that's the solution, I appreciate your patience in explaining to me. Thanks. I'm doing weekly DCA, I first dump a bunch of money into SA Simple, then from Simple, just create 2 separate 'every 2 weeks' transfer, set different start date (one week apart). |
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Mar 17 2021, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Mar 17 2021, 09:20 AM) Hey guys for emergency fund you guys suggest to put in simple or 12% or lower risk profile? if there is no emergency i don't think gonna use it although currently just 3 months salary not much though I wouldn't put emergency funds in stashaway because it would take several days to withdraw, unless your definition of emergency is different than mine. Honsiong did a post about emergency funds, can check his sig.This post has been edited by cucumber: Mar 17 2021, 09:29 AM |
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Mar 17 2021, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 17 2021, 09:29 AM) Lets say I really hand itchy and I start doing 1k DCA monthly with this route. ( 2.5% fee), One small thing to note, for DCA, if we want to mimic SAMY buying different ETFs with only RM1k, then we'll need the original IBKR account which allows 'fractional shares'. That has a monthly fee of $10USD. So annual fees will be more like RM500.RM12k investment, annual fees is RM300? |
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Mar 17 2021, 10:56 AM
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Mar 19 2021, 12:22 PM
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