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prophetjul
post Mar 25 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 25 2021, 12:00 PM)
Easily in real monetary value RM devalue 30% this past year and with the current trend soon RM4.28 on average for this year and SGD to 3.10 before borders open

GLD it is good for preservation which is why a lot are questioning Freddy and they still don’t understand why it is 20% which it is good they lower it to 15%
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Well, in my 18 years of gold investment, it does show that gold can smoothen out the rough edges of volatility, BUT OVER THE LONG TERM.

i first invested in SG in 2008/09 in a big way when it was 2.30. Primarily to hedge against the MYR and receiving yields at the same time. So i invested in SREITs, yield and currency hedge. All very nice.
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post Mar 30 2021, 02:26 PM

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Question: Does the morning portfolio status reflect the price action of the US markets the night before?
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post Mar 30 2021, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(JJ93 @ Mar 30 2021, 02:35 PM)
Nope.

Usually there's two updates to the portfolio.

First one is the forex change - usually noon/ after lunch

Second one is the actual change from the previous night's trading - usually between after lunch till night time.
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post Apr 6 2021, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Apr 6 2021, 12:55 AM)
Agreed.. this two years very the bull tongue.gif I'm thinking annualised maybe ~12% over 5+ years period.
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I would be 'disappointed' if SA cannot beat 12% annualised returens over 10 years.
My holding of gold has given me 12% annualised returns since 2002. That is without paying any fees. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 14 2021, 01:15 PM)
JomPay really fastest 🤣🤣🤣
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What is their Jompay code?
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post Apr 16 2021, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Apr 16 2021, 08:01 AM)
i'm a MY, SG & US listed REITs holder too thus, i assume U are into MY REITs for cash flow via dividends.

Assuming your MY REITs is for cash flow via dividends AND U have NO other substantial investments other than the MY REITs:
a. better asset allocation - across countries and sectors, not just REITs and not just MY
b. your cash flow will take a hit & volatility in cash flow income too

Assuming your MY REITs is for cash flow via dividends AND U HAVE other substantial investments other than the MY REITs - ie. U have a good asset allocation:
a. meh - why bother too much UNLESS U want to go into auto-pilot OR worried about your own mental abilities
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i'll go whole hog into StashAway and such when i know i'm getting nyanyuk/incapable of managing my asset allocations hands-on.
even then - most probably i'll still be in StashAway's 36% risk as i've EPF as the counter-balance asset - ya, like most Malaysians, a lot of % in EPF ma.

just a thought ya, no absolute right/wrong  notworthy.gif
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Looking at this country's poor outlook, i am thinking of reducing my EPF further to hedge more in SGD.
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post Apr 17 2021, 08:53 AM

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After 1.5 month of fortnightly DCA, my 20% portfolio remains green with a
TWR of 5.45% and MWR of 3.94%.

Looks Good so far! laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 17 2021, 10:15 AM)


too short to see anything. if you had invested 2-3 years early, you'd probably think SAMY is a scam.
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Just saying....1.5 years is nothing since i have held gold since 2002. laugh.gif

Why would you call SAMY a scam is you invested 2-3 years earlier?
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post Apr 17 2021, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 17 2021, 10:38 AM)
largely would seen a negative for quite an extended period during that time.
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Anyone in that category?
Are you saying even with DCA during last year from the lows, you would not even break even?
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post Apr 17 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 17 2021, 10:44 AM)
search this thread, the early adopters were in that category and is now having easily 64% in gain, if my memory serves me right.

if you invested since MCO last year, you will surely be making some positive by now.
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Sorry. i do not understand.
i thought you said they will be cursing SAMY?
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post Apr 17 2021, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 17 2021, 10:59 AM)
i think they had "curse" and left ...curse at that time....
but if they stayed on....things would be not so bad already

just like those that got GOLD in Nov 2011 would have cursed for 8 yrs till 2019.....then exited....
if they had continued to stay...then different story
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Ok. I see. biggrin.gif
Yeah...its for the long haul....at least 5 years into an economic cycle IMO.

Like those who got into gold in 2008 at $900 and left at 680 in 2009....after which gold put n the rocket to 1900. laugh.gif
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post Apr 17 2021, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(ChessRook @ Apr 17 2021, 11:05 AM)
I have invested in SAMY since 2018, and it is my 2nd best performing  financial vehicle in my portfolio. I am one of the early adopters. My personal xirr  for samy is slightly above 20%.
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XIRR at 20% is awesome! thumbup.gif
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post Jun 1 2021, 08:59 AM

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i would be very disappointed if SA cannot beat gold itself which is in my experience have been giving me 11 to 12% CAGR since 2002.

If you are looking at 8%, i would say that is rather low considering the SA risk in equities. 8% is not much difference from EPF.
There are some medium risk investments which yield around 7 to 8% pa.
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post Jun 1 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jun 1 2021, 09:46 AM)
7 to 8% with lower risk than stashaway? Do tell.

Gold while it does recently give a reasonable return does not have a great risk vs return, right? Sharpe ratio of 0.65 over 3 yrs.

In any case I'm well aware of the returns from stashaway. I've invested since 2019. But again to expect something above 10% over 20 years....thats something....
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Bear in mind, gold is substantial portion of SA. Is 3 years long enough. My experience is 19 years and counting with gold. 11 to 12% CAGR.

Some SREITs get you 7 to 8% pa dividends not counting forex and share price increase. smile.gif
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post Jun 1 2021, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 1 2021, 10:19 AM)
If you cherry pick time frames, stashaway underperforms every conceivable asset class.

You pick just 2018, stashaway performed worse than your money sitting in bank.

Stashaway however manages risk well in uncertain futures. If you have an asset class you think can beat stashaway, you should put more monies toward there.
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15 years time frame good enough? biggrin.gif
i am just pointing out gold as a stabiliser in SA as pointed out by their CEO/CIO.
Now if SA cannot beat gold as a standalone, what does it tell you? i am just opening it up to the forum here as i have experience with gold.

i cannot use your last point as i have already substantial gold stabiliser due to my early investment in the asset.

So its a discussion point.

If SA cannot beat gold over 15 years, is it worth the risk? OR should you guys just invest in gold as a standalone?
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post Jun 1 2021, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jun 1 2021, 12:32 PM)
Good discussion.

beating is one thing, many things beat gold too. Many things also beat stashaway, or S&P500.

Example Tesla, Amazon, bitcoin, rubber gloves. The metric one should remember is risk, or standard deviation. Tesla has a standard deviation that is 5 times of S&P 500. If you put so much value at risk, it means getting your high returns are barely justified.

Just by having it in the portfolio probably will NOT beat it....
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When i first invested in gold in 2002, my goal was simple. Beat the FD rates of 5 to 6%. Which i believe it would.
AND it did.

So what is one's goal in investing via SA? 8% as many have indicated? So i brought in the issue of gold, which is a major part of SA's portfolio.

So i am sharing my experience of gold's return over 19 years. With that in mind, do we still wish for 8% from SA?

Discuss. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2021, 11:44 AM

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i think we are hitting a top with SA now. i am seeing my portfolio unable to breach this level in the past few weeks.
Are you all seeing the same?
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post Jun 2 2021, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 2 2021, 12:42 PM)
what RI% you are holding?
a forummer in another thread mentioned his SA 36% SRI has a MoM of +1.55%
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i am holding a 20% risk portfolio sinceMarch 2021.
For the past month, the returns has been bobbling around TWR 6.5 to 7%.
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post Jun 2 2021, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 2 2021, 01:16 PM)
You saying we gonna have a downturn soon?  rclxms.gif

Time to buy more assets at a discount, secure our retirement!
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i am thinking whether to continue DCA at this juncture or use VCA?
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post Jun 2 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jun 2 2021, 01:40 PM)
What is VCA man. You gonna reduce deposits if stashaway keeps going up?

DCA for diversified portfolio like stashaway, then if got your own tilts, buy on moomoo or tiger.
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Value Averaging. Let it drop first. ?
I have my tilts already. laugh.gif

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