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post Aug 9 2021, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 9 2021, 10:24 AM)
i have no short term forecast.    biggrin.gif

In the longer term, we may see the same thing happen as in 08/09 to 2011 with incessant QE. 
Gold has always been a hedge. Let's see.
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Ok, thks,
So the currents drops of abt $70 in the last 2 trading days does not matter to you much then.
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post Aug 11 2021, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Aug 11 2021, 11:52 AM)
I'm not going to complain for another 2009, I will be dead happy to dump in more, sp500 that is. in fact if I wanna complain, with kweb dropped over 50% , like u said all portfolio has kweb, aren't we already in a '' 2009'' but China style?

We are on the recover run, yet my returns are same as putting in FD or perhaps lowers.

I don't mind they want to re opt this that, whatever they buy this year, last year and even previous years, if they have just not do anything it will grow better than they buy sell buy sell now.

Happened to vgk, spem, gld, ijr and more. Look at the new xle as an example, if they set to buy beginning of the year, it will have decent growth.

As of all investment the power comes from compound, doing this just kills off the tail end of exponential returns.

I know people is not going to agree with me, and will continue to lick off SA boots just to feel better. My Sp500 portfolio dosent lie

If being a Bogle heads get me better returns, glad to be one.

I also should stay away from this thread , starts to feel like a cult than proper discussion.
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sine you mentioned something "RUDE"....calling those that opposed to your view "Licking SA boots"...
may i be RUDE too...
if you are so no happy...just get out of SA investing...
don't you think it would be STUPID to continue to stick with it after having known that your SA investment is worst than your SP500 portfolio?

walk the talk....get out of SA use that money to put into your S&P500 portfolio.

all talk no action.....

i liked a forummer just got out of SA because he does not agreed with the SA auto reoptimisation thing.


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post Aug 11 2021, 04:36 PM

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just for discussion on this,...

"The argument is always the same, u tak suka u keluar. As if now selling in the dip will do me any good by exiting SA.

Sorry I'm not that dumb.

If your have such confidence in SA, then shall I ask, will kweb rebound to sp500 level after this crash?"

comparing the performance,...

how long will you intent to hold on till KWEB recovers?
will continue to hold on to the current losses in KWEB be subjected to the opportunity cost of the rising SP500?

if cannot accept to cut losses NOW for fear of being dumb,...will it become dumber if KWEB continue to falls while SP500 continue to rise?

Don't forget "things are going fantastic over there" brows.gif brows.gif

just thinking and open for discussion hmm.gif




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post Aug 12 2021, 04:05 PM

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just saw this,...




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post Aug 14 2021, 09:55 AM

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A seasoned small scale investor like me, aim not just on the performance of returns.
I looked at its diversification n resilient of a portfolio. Some also looked at its risk reward ratio.
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post Aug 14 2021, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(jacksonpang @ Aug 14 2021, 02:52 PM)
Yeah, i know definitely will got people saying "judging based on 1 year is blah3", but it does not cover the fact that SA is the only(?) robo-adviser that is getting negative return since the so-called "ATH of kweb", hence ATH of 36% portfolio too(?) during around mid-feb period, which is when i started my 36% portfolio too. Just stating the fact. Sad me is sad, dca every week for half year already, portfolio still going south... Move KWEB, move! Lol

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i think many are in similar situation too....
monthly DCA into China Focused UTFs.....6 months still no ends in sight... cry.gif bangwall.gif mad.gif

same for Gold related UTFs too

previously Stashaway 36% SRI has abt 20% each of these 2 sectors in its portfolio....

if one were to be DCA everyweek into S&P500 for the past 6 months instead of KWEB rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

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post Aug 18 2021, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(talfred @ Aug 18 2021, 10:31 PM)
Curious, how much do u all invest in Stashaway and how much is too much? Any protection like PIDM?
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Any protection like PIDM?
PIDM does not covers investment platform like Stashaway
it covers Saving, FD and insurance products of PIDM members only

how much do u all invest in Stashaway and how much is too much?
not sure about others, but for me, it will be too much if any slight % of falling movement of the balance in my portfolio makes me depressed and impacted my work, social and family lives


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post Aug 19 2021, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 19 2021, 10:51 AM)
for those selected any SRI,
example if taking this 36% SRI for example...."99% chance of not losing more than 36% in a single year" in another word 1% chance of losing 36% in a single year

they have to be prepare to accept that there is a possibility of very high chances of getting losses in 5, 10, 15, 20 or 25% in a single year in a 36% SRI portfolio
(for i think it is logical for the chances to be much higher on the possibility of losing 5% than 36% in a single year)

hmm.gif WOW, if only think of the possible % of upside on the long terms  bruce.gif 36% SRI is a go go port for many
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for the past 5 months of my 36%SRI
i already encountered few losses and a few near misses too

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post Aug 19 2021, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Aug 19 2021, 12:37 PM)
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🤷‍♀️ it is what it is, prolonged discount period
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then some on the "opposing" camp like S&P500 etfs heavy......would says.....prolonged opportunity cost lost while try to fish in this prolonged discount season in SA. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Aug 19 2021, 12:47 PM)
In a fantasy world where I own the magic crystal ball where it somehow can only show me ETF prices, I'd sell S&P500 at its peak of this great run then lumpsum all in to capture the bottom of this discount knowing it'd somehow go up by 50% in the next 6 month.

But ultimately I am just a filthy commoner having to live with my choices. VWRA+SA and chill, it'd all even out on a 30 year horizon. I'm not good at trading, the more I touch my portfolio the more likely I am going to burn myself a permanent scar after a few small victories  tongue.gif
Debunking "High Risk, High Return"

You'd be surprised, the best risk-to-reward portfolio is actually 22% SRI if I recall correctly.
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in the meantime while riding along a 30 yrs horizon,...just be prepare and accept the possibilities of many bumps, flat tyres and some beautiful views along the way

just hope that it would not crash at the last miles just before reaching to destination
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Aug 19 2021, 01:07 PM)
Can always pick a time and lower SRI down to say, 10% permanently - which is same as reducing equities and increasing ballast assets in manual portfolios - 10% SRI is actually more than enough to support most common SWR.

Just cash out and accept that you are willing to trade future potential earning for a peace of mind for the rest of the journey.
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hmm.gif that would mean stopping earlier than the planned XX yrs duration?
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at times, under certain environment, for some duration of time....
a lower SRI may not be SAFER than a higher SRI one


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QUOTE(hedfi @ Aug 19 2021, 10:35 PM)
SRI 36 sailang KWEB
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hmm.gif isn't it sailang also to a max of 20% allocation to KWEB, thru 36%SRI at SA?

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Aug 19 2021, 10:55 PM)
Well since KWEB fell like 12% in the past few days, about most of deposits are going to KWEB to readjust that allocation.
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hmm.gif if have 10k in SA
will mean 2k in KWEB

this KWEB fell abt 30% in a month
balance in KWEB 2K - 600 = 1400

if every other holdings remains same but only KWEB fell by 30% (portfolio lost 600)

if top up RM600 now,...all will go to KWEB ?

QUOTE(hedfi @ Aug 19 2021, 11:10 PM)
94% of my recent (16/8) investment went into KWEB
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if the above example is right,...then top up RM600,...all 100% of it will goto KWEB?

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Aug 19 2021, 11:31 PM)
its your right to have doubts naturally, all I said was most of the deposit went into KWEB, a few times it was even purely KWEB.
Just sharing on the allocation. no need to go into detailed calculations, thats not why I use Stashaway.
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the detailed calculation is for ease of understanding...
that is why i mentioned earlier,..."isn't it sailang also to a max of 20% allocation to KWEB, thru 36%SRI at SA?"



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QUOTE(MUM @ Aug 20 2021, 10:52 AM)
looks like if those that are currently having the TWR of KWEB seriously/heavily in RED in their SA portfolio and are not looking for KWEB to be having a good prospect in the near future,...
i think should just "STOP" to top up now as majority/ALL of their top up will be going into KWEB
unless the top up value can fill up the required KWEB allocation and only then it will then flows into other allocation

if one think that KWEB will rise in the near future, and any top now is a good opportunity to buy more (quote borrowed from post 15655) " it is what it is, prolonged discount period"
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biggrin.gif is this serious/heavily in RED? devil.gif innocent.gif


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post Aug 22 2021, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Aug 22 2021, 11:31 AM)
Exiting now is locking my losses. I may be contradicting myself, I will still occasionally pop in 1 or 2k if it goes lower for kweb.

Meanwhile I will DCA elsewhere.

I just don't agree with people :heeeeeyyy I trust Freddy from SA to death, here's my money papa.

In the end SA, Wahed, mytheo, akrunow, etoro or even other mutual funds are just platforms. We make our own judgment how much and how we want to invest. Fully commit to 1 platform? I have my reservation.

If SA don't do their re opt so often, I might be still able to continue on SA. I don't want to earn margin, I want to earn the tail end of the exponential curve, surely SA reopt practices aren't bringing me there.
If anyone of here still concern about '' long term''.
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in UT, there are no control as to how the FM want to allocates his holdings, we are not in control of how many % "SHOULD' go to what sector or What stock to buy.
we can ONLY have a bit of idea as to how the fund is gonna invest by its mandate

in FSM managed port, the investor has no control as to what UT funds to holds/switch/sell/buy and when to rebalance/switch/reduce/remove/buy new/add more or "reoptimise" the UT holdings in the portfolio

in SA, the investor too will has no control to that too


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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Aug 22 2021, 11:54 AM)
Exactly.

Which is a mistake I made before jumping in SA. if I were to know SA operate so similarly to UT, I would have gone UT.

I think the right thing for me to do now is just leave it here(time in the market) if really for the long term, just at the very least beat FD for me, if not SA can tutup kedai d. If can't beat FD, then whoever working in SA can just be considered as some xin ka only, regardless their background.

Investing is simple, broad index or etf, dca, don't touch it. That's what passive investment is.

But some here confirm will defend SA. Even though everyone's money is at stake. So what gives, in the end my growth elsewhere in numbers matters.
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they will defend for they already know what SA is and what SA will do and they knew that SA suited them before they invested in it....

this defence will go on until they found a better one that suited them BETTER again.

the Opposite is true for this " But some here confirm will defend SA Even though everyone's money is at stake"
those that realised that they made a mistake in joining SA will vouch to it that, SA is not good and it does not suit them.

the important thing is REALISE and make amend/peace to oneself.

action(invest) > monitor > review > make changes
sort of like PDCA
Plan ...your investment
Do ... invest
Check ....monitor
Act ....review and make changes
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post Aug 23 2021, 01:06 AM

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just a hypothetical example...
for ease of example calculation, all my funds are stagnant except ARKK keep dropping ...i wanted to buy on dip to catch lower prices so i top up 3 times

did i lock in my losses by selling off ARKK to buy REITS?...i guess YES
did i lose money by selling ARKK to buy Reits?....i dont see any (i have credit points so don't mention Sales charges)

selling off ARKK or not selling it, my portfolio is still balance 630....(i am already losing 70)

so why do you sell ARKK....i foresee RISK, thus i reoptimise to Reits for lesser risk

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post Aug 24 2021, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Aug 24 2021, 01:07 AM)
Anyone got any idea to solve this "dislike" without telling "you don't like, u get out of SA?"
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Lan Lan bear with the dislike lor, nothing else can be done lor.... Except grumbling here lor with all the reasons for not liking the frequent reoptimization.... Even though those reasons are only valid to that person giving those reasons.

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