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post Oct 29 2021, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(tweakity @ Oct 29 2021, 02:44 PM)
I think more like Program A. Problem is when its down 1% 4 weeks, I Top up maybe once only. Then end up its 4% down, not 1% down anymore.
But i'm not trying to time the market. I still feel blind DCA is better for long term. Just that SA is small portion of my set aside spare cash. i need something to trigger me to top up.
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program A
top up - Whenever i see many complaints here (at this LYN forum)
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top up - whenever USD/MYR down by 1% over a few days

program A has to fulfill 2 conditions BEFORE you top up

question, what IF when the USD/MYR down by 1% over a few days BUT there is no complaint here?,...

like for the past week,...most see their SA gained x.x% in a week

yet NOW, you top up, when only 1 of the 2 conditions are met.

i think last few postings that mentioned DCANOSCOPE, i think it is the thing for you, when you needed something to trigger you to top up since SA is a small portion of your set aside spare cash.

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post Oct 29 2021, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(tweakity @ Oct 29 2021, 02:55 PM)
Ya that's why problem. That's why i say blind DCA is better for long term.
Problem is I accidentally lump sum into ASM1.... Take out very sayang
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your initial selection to lumpsum into ASM1 has its reasons....don't forget why you selected it....maybe it suits your risk appetite and the financial environment at that time. has that changed since?
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post Nov 10 2021, 12:50 PM

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Any Monkey Can Beat The Market

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rickferri/2012...sh=1fb97c2b630a

littlegamer, do you invest in stocks or specific focused ETFs DIY styles?

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post Nov 10 2021, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Nov 10 2021, 01:13 PM)
I'm a Kia su type, anything that beats the inflation and give consistent gains over the long time is my cup of tea.

Occasionally I do play some crypto, those are really small money I treat it as "" money to lose"".

SA is good if it wasn't for the reopt. At the point it is performance is worse than putting it into Malaysian EPF.

Come to think of it EPF is crazy, 5 to 6% consistent returns since it's inception over all the economic down turn with tax returns??? That's insane to me. Ofc u can't withdraw it with specific rules, epf is meant for retirement so... I kinda feel we shouldn't withdraw as we like, it is meant for our retirement.

Epf auto/forced us save 24% of our income over our work years with 5 to 6 % growth over 35 years. I baffles me how people still unable to retire just by epf alone.

There was a time like 2016 or 2015, local banks offer 4.0% FD, I was crazy for it. Is just 1% off from epf and is confirmed growth, interest is abit too low now for FD to a poiny my credit card cash back is giving me more money than putting in FD.
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hmm.gif maybe that data is for those that are about at retirement age grouping....previously those will have low saving rates ($$) due to lower pay and money taken out to buy houses

thumbup.gif your credit card cash back is giving you more money than putting in FD.,....
hmm.gif you don't have money in FD? and you spend MORE to earn more cash back?
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post Nov 11 2021, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(May It Please The Court @ Nov 11 2021, 06:24 AM)
hi all, what is your ideal risk percentage for SA?
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My take is,... Ideally, Ask what is your own maximum allowed % amount of losses even with a 1% chances of happening in a 12 months period.

Maybe that would correlates to the ideal stashaway risk index setting.
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post Nov 15 2021, 01:21 PM

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Almost half of EPF contributors have less than RM10,000 (per September 27th, 2021 article)
https://themalaysianreserve.com/2021/09/27/...s-than-rm10000/

32% of EPF contributors have less than RM5,000 in Account 1, says Tengku Zafrul (per November 9, 2020 article)
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-tengku-zafrul/

before investing can begin, one must first saved enough in order to invest. It is a discipline all need to have.

“Investing comes AFTER you have saved. If you have not saved anything, how will you invest?”

Investing is trying to increase the savings that you have put aside so that you have enough to be able to bypass the rainy days, and those days will come.
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post Nov 18 2021, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Nov 18 2021, 10:00 AM)
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What keeps you awake at night? Would your investment in/via Stashaway be one of the reasons to keep you awake at night?

If yes, why so? what's your pain points about this Stashaway?
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For me, no impact at all, on its movement (since March 2021), bcos maybe due to SA only constitute abt 10% of my investment money.
My SA moved to - 6% at some points but some ut that I holds was able to moves more than - 18% during the same period.

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post Nov 29 2021, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(XweienX @ Nov 29 2021, 04:36 PM)
You all want to see TWR or MWR? biggrin.gif
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i think it has different,...whether that investor is DCA or Lumpsum
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post Nov 30 2021, 12:19 PM

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Sui Jau posted,...
No amount of prior reading up and accumulating of knowledge can compare with actual investing experience which can only be built up by using your own money to invest.
You have to experience the emotional pull that comes from market ups and downs and learn how to handle your emotions during those times.
And learning from mistakes made is the greatest teacher."
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post Nov 30 2021, 09:12 PM

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🤔🤔If I were to set up my own etfs diversified portfolio, where I buy my own etfs.. Will it ends up like SA portfolio?
I may end up following SA as a guide.
I will definitely not going to solely buy voo or kweb😅😅
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post Dec 1 2021, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Dec 1 2021, 07:36 PM)
Hi understand this is a Msia online forum. I am from Spore. I came here based on some suggestion in the FundSupermart thread. I understand StashAway focus on ETF exclusively. So for a start can anyone help me with my simple questions?

Qn 1
StashAway based on your risk preferences will suggest the basket of ETF for your portfolio. You cannot dictate which specific ETF to be in your portfolio correct?
according to it FAQs
it is not possible for a customer to handpick the ETFs or the allocation.

https://www.stashaway.my/faq/900000799883-c...es-i-invest-in/

Qn 2
Once you have the portfolio up and running, what is reflected? Is it units? And this unit has a price attached to it? That is if we want to sell we look at the unit price and then enter the units to sell ? (Sorry I am from FSM background mutual trust fund with their concept of units)
see attached image for details of what i can see inside my portfolios
i have never sell before, so i don't know. but i think it will just be "tell SA how much $$ you want to redeem/take out"


Qn 3
Since it is a robo-advisor feature, StashAway will periodically buy/sell your ETF to re-balance your portfolio correct?
from their FAQs...looks like both rebalancing and reoptimization
The basis of our investment strategy is to build portfolios with particular asset allocations that are optimal for 4 different economic cycles. When our investment team identifies and signals a change in the economic cycle, our technology will automatically re-optimise all portfolios' asset allocations.

https://www.stashaway.my/faq/360010099173-w...e-optimisation/
When a particular asset reaps significant gains relative to other assets in the portfolio, its market value weight increases above target allocation. Without rebalancing, the portfolio is increasingly concentrated in the outperforming asset class hence raising risks. Our algorithm checks customer portfolios daily, and performs rebalancing when allocations deviate from targets by more than our "optimised" bands. This can happen weekly, monthly or quarterly, depending on the markets' volatility and performance.
https://www.stashaway.my/faq/115001846973-h...-and-optimised/

Qn 4
One painful part of ETF is fractional lot selling. It seems StashAway help to manage that on our behalf. However I read below post
seedly.sg/posts/can-stashaway-sell-your-units-without-your-authorization

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last week I noticed that while my money was injected to buy new units, there was also a small sell order for 2 ETFs that I did not authorize for. Upon calling them to enquire, they told me this is normal and part of the process of buying fractional shares where sometimes in order to fulfil a withdrawal order, they randomly pick users to sell small units to fulfil


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Upon checking with our ops team, it was a forced sell order i.e we had to fill up partial units to make a whole unit “sellable”- this is an unavoidable feature of offering fractional shares to clients. It's not part of re-balancing.

maybe and hopefully this FAQ can shed some info,...
How does StashAway execute my orders?

https://www.stashaway.my/faq/900003340026-h...cute-my-orders/

That means in order to fulfill a full lot they can randomly pick users ETF to sell some small shares off to make it a full lot for selling. This is their strategy to offer us fractional lot selling. Not saying this is wrong or unethical but have any of you encounter such issues before?
maybe after the investor injected money (assumed to be LARGE in relation to its existing AUM),...their algorithm checks customer portfolios....when it deviate from targets by more than our "optimised" bands. they will rebalancing,...as per rebalancing faq above....maybe during the rebalancing they will need to "sell" off some units of some etfs. But i think it rarely happens as they can program not to buy those "above allocation set limit" etfs and buy more of those under allocated etfs

Thanks in advance.
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post Dec 2 2021, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Dec 1 2021, 11:46 PM)
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One weakness I find is sometimes when price is high I really dun want to sell and when price very low I want to buy instead of sell etc. But the algorithm may think differently from you and execute it's own way.

Hmmm... I will digest this different approach and think first.
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Jfyi,
There had been "complaints", grievances, grumblings, etc from times to times here by some about sa methods/decisions/selections/allocations of etfs n its periodic reoptimization.
Some opt out of SA as they think they can do much better on their own than sa after some duration of actual experience earned
Some opt out of SA n moved to other robo platform after they experienced dismay performance of SA when compared with their new found love.
Yes, think first👍👍
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post Dec 2 2021, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 2 2021, 02:31 PM)
Just need to get lucky once 🤭👍
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grand mother story time or 'mumbling' again ..

looking back through my past ventures,...
i would have been lucky "if" i continued to stick to some of them....
but as my "guts" told me,.....hey,...take profits now,...the price is now already too high, inflation coming, interest rate going up, covid19 is still here, etc etc.... sweat.gif
i exited them to see them keep going up for a much longer duration bangwall.gif ....

if only, ..... innocent.gif
i would have been alot luckier.... blush.gif



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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 2 2021, 02:53 PM)
Hindsight is always 2020. 🤭

Profits are profit regardless small or big.

Just continue to be invested then all is good yo.
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YES, profits is still profits....
but my problem is i tried to protect the profits....moved to FI to try to time the reentry into EQ while saving on reentry sales charges....

then mad.gif bangwall.gif FI downed ranting.gif

thumbup.gif thumbsup.gif "Just continue to be invested then all is good yo"

to make it into not a wrong thread posting...
the story can be visualised to be "move out of SA port into Simple to wait for the arrival of the storm and reenter back into SA port. brows.gif

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he must have forgotten/missed that SA mentioned nothing about sure can get xx% pa but more to possible of having 1% of XX% of losses in any given 12 months period.
Qustion?...did he lose xx% in relation to his %SRI in the 12 month period?
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post Dec 4 2021, 12:18 PM

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Looking at past historically,... Not many % it can drop.... Just maybe a few more %...

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Dec 4 2021, 12:48 PM)
Wow wee, back to pre 2016 price soon. 👀
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i guess in equity investing,...it can happens,...
even the current hot etfs had experienced that before....


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QUOTE(pixelrider @ Dec 10 2021, 05:51 PM)
Hi all, I received an email from Stashaway support asking me for documents in order to verify my source of funds. Is this normal? Does this happened to you guys before?
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is the amount >100K in a lump sum?
just asking...
for mine at 50k no question asked in March

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Dec 12 2021, 11:38 AM)
If you really insist then diy investing yourself. Go through Interactive brokers and buy the ETFs that you like. Recommend Irish domicile etfs so that save on 15% withholding tax.

Some US stocks like Apple, Amazon, Tesla worth to buy too. If want good EU or Asia stocks etf u can copy stashaway investments or research via youtube, reddit, websites

Check out Ziet Invest youtube he has very detailed steps on how to do the above.
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Can he open that Ibk a/c with his sg bank a/c without his singpass?
He wanted to use his sg a/c for investment in sg
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Dec 12 2021, 07:41 PM)
Use sg bank account transfer to wise then to IBKR.
Inside Ziet latest videos he got explain how. I had tried this myself using Malaysia Maybank and it works. Take about one day for Wise to reach IBKR. For Maybank to Wise is via FPX so it's instant. Their FX rate is reasonable also. Once u master this can even think about buying other US, UK, EU, or Asia stocks directly.

Stashaway is easier if you wish to deposit small amount every month or don't have that much cash to invest in one go (Some people prefer this also as hard for them to accumulate a big sum then invest). Stashaway got reveal what ETFs they pick when u select their portfolio? So u can copy their same ETFs to invest yourself (easier if u have larger sum of cash). Diy also means you'll save on Stashaway annual fees.. So here is where you'll gain.

I got buy some s&p 500 CSPX on IBKR too. Downside is same as buying direct via any broker, the more u buy at one go the more you safe on fx, interest and fees. If buy at small amounts each time you'll lose more. If stashaway then u can deposit small amounts each month, and what I guess Stashaway does is it combines with other Stashaway members' payments and buy stocks in bulk, to save on these charges.

Stashaway and IBKR both invest using USD so no worry about our currency declining one day.
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arslow, i hope the above post is informative for you,.....

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