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ChessRook
post Apr 17 2021, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 17 2021, 10:15 AM)
1.5 month? come back after another 1.5 years.

too short to see anything. if you had invested 2-3 years early, you'd probably think SAMY is a scam.
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I have invested in SAMY since 2018, and it is my 2nd best performing financial vehicle in my portfolio. I am one of the early adopters. My personal xirr for samy is slightly above 20%.

Oh nevermind, I didn’t read the earlier posts rclxs0.gif

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post Apr 17 2021, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 17 2021, 11:28 AM)
thumbup.gif good for you...
i had just joined the train last month.
hope that the growth can sustain.

and wish that it will not end up behaving like this trend......
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Me too I hope it doesn't end like this. But thats why we have various other financial assets in our portfolio. thumbsup.gif
I hope other assets can have better performance if / when SAMY doesn't do as well.

Anyway, I wish your SAMY investments a great performance thumbup.gif
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post Apr 17 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Merubin @ Apr 17 2021, 12:56 PM)
just out of curiosity, how often you guys perform DCA for SA?
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End of every month .i.e after my salary is banked in.

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post Apr 19 2021, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(shawnme @ Apr 19 2021, 12:55 PM)
I've opened an account, but yet to begin. Been playing around the numbers, but I'm curious about this. Why does it always show a "95% chance of having at least" that is at a loss of roughly 5 years?

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I think it is estimating that if you put in 10300 you have 95% chance of getting 11,340 at oct 2029 and so on.

To tell you honestly, i don’t bother with these numbers.
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post Apr 23 2021, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Nshade @ Apr 23 2021, 05:20 PM)
Hmm.... i looked at my account so far, i noticed it's up and down.
By right, it's the same for everyone here right? I added payment every month, so far already 2nd month.

Is there something else i need to do or just leave it like that and add payment like BAU.
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Just add payment every month and then come back at end of each year to check performance. SA is supposed to manage for you and is meant to be long term ie. more than 10 year investment.
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post Apr 25 2021, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Apr 25 2021, 12:43 AM)
I invested 2 x RM10000 since a year ago and didnt really look into it. It's has dropped sad.gif

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The 6.5% port is dominated by highly sensitive interest rate assets like bonds, gold and other fixed income. As there is expectation of increase interest rate due to inflation fears, these assets dropped in value.

My bond port in another platform are also affected. So you are not alone console.gif
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post May 1 2021, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(IJustWantToAsk @ May 1 2021, 03:39 PM)
The stashaway simple, is it one year 2.4%?
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That is just a projection. You can refer to the following thread and post 795 by xander on
the actual rate

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4962773/+780

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post May 7 2021, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(gundamsp01 @ May 7 2021, 02:06 PM)
speaking of that, sorry a noob here, does that mean for my portfolio, it is below SP500 performance?

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OFC SA is going to underperform against S&P 500 in general. SA is not a 100% equity stock portfolio and has fees that drags down the performance. SA is a balanced portfolio with bonds + gold. I don't think SA is optimise for return performance but SA's purpose is to have 99% chance that one's portfolio doesn't drop by 36% (if one choose 36% risk level) or drop by 26% (if one choose 26% risk level).

There are other asset allocation portfolio out there for example,
a) golden butterfly portfolio
https://youtu.be/RsoBIJoJduo

b) all-weather portfolio
https://youtu.be/PAA1cn2xgFo

Here is more on SA portfolio philoshophy:
Stashaway Risk Index Purpose

Specifically, the SRI uses 99%-VaR, which means that your portfolio has a 99% chance of not losing more than the given SRI percentage in any given year. For instance, if you choose to invest RM50,000 at a 14% SRI, there’s a 99% chance that you won’t lose more than RM7,000 in a given year (RM50,000 * 14% = RM7,000). You can also say that there’s only a 1% chance that you’ll lose more than RM7,000.

There is no right or wrong answer on the setup of the asset allocation portfolio. It depends on one's risk tolerance, time to retirement and so on.

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post May 7 2021, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(lee82gx @ May 7 2021, 12:24 PM)
very high tolerance you have there buddy.  tongue.gif

I'm ok for fees, if they don't underperform the SP500.....in general
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I can tell you in many years S&P 500 is going to outperform SA. S&P 500 is 100% equity stocks while SA is filled with bonds & gold etfs. Plus I am not going to mention fees vs S&p500 etfs like VOO.

See my post of SA above. SA purpose is not to max performance.
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post May 7 2021, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Xenopher @ May 7 2021, 05:57 PM)
Anyone know what happened to their weekly market commentary?
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https://youtu.be/lLC9pY1KZuc

Just out 4 hours ago
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post May 7 2021, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(DragonReine @ May 7 2021, 05:35 PM)
So far better, but I'm a conservative investor and I only started a few years back laugh.gif only 7-8% pa on average right now.

But back on topic, I don't think SA will outperform pure equities market because it's very heavily diversified and risk-managed, which is why I said my benchmark is around EPF level haha
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With bond etfs performance of 3-4 percent in SA portfolio, this is going to pull performance down compared with annualised 10% 30 year average of s&p. But not many people has can stomach the volatility of s&p500, so SA has its place.

Don’t get me wrong, I love SA and i just wish people have more reasonable performance expectation of SA.
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post May 10 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(cse.my @ May 10 2021, 11:18 AM)
Err noob question. Friday deposit and still don't see amount in system yet. Is it sat sun not not counted?
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As Sat and Sun is weekend, SA is closed. Monday for Malaysia is Sun in the US. I think you should see your amount invested on Tue.
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post May 10 2021, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ May 10 2021, 11:52 AM)
Ohh, so it means when we withdraw next time when MYR is even stronger than now against USD, we shall lose when USD is converted back to MYR?
If what I understand is correct, and sounds silly as it goes, when we buy more during strong MYR (let's say now), we should be hoping that MYR is weaker during withdrawal, is that right?  unsure.gif

...and if the above is right, then I can grasp better what some had commented about the currency exchange factor if we invest more into SA now.
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That's about correct. thumbsup.gif But I think one should be too concerned with the currency exchange if the investments are very long term say 20 years. It may not affect much.
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post May 12 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ May 12 2021, 11:10 AM)
2 days holiday, are they working?
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Not working as public holiday.
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post May 13 2021, 07:36 AM

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This reminds me of 2018. In times like this, i try not to look at my port performance frequently. Maybe every 4 months. This helps to calm me down and for me to make better investment decisions
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post May 13 2021, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(backspace66 @ May 13 2021, 07:43 AM)
You do you. For me i am ok to look at my investment since i have experience it way back in 2008 as well other than 2011, 2018 and 2020. 2008 was way more painful due to how deep it is and the time it takes to recover. It is better to take a look at the market so you dont miss any opportunity when it comes.
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I just do the monthly DCA. I don’t have many bullets to pump when I think there is down. Most of the time i pump too early. Market timing is just too hard
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post Jun 18 2021, 05:34 PM

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SA is changing their money market fund. Just received this email:

Due to uncertainties in how the current underlying fund in StashAway Simple™ will be taxed in the future, we are changing the underlying fund from Eastspring Investments Islamic Fund to AMIncome Fund. The change will be completed by 25 June 2021.
Here’s what you need to know:

> Simple’s projected rate will remain at 2.4% p.a.
> It’ll have a StashAway Risk Index (SRI) of only 0.1%
AMIncome Fund is a mix of money market funds and short-term corporate bonds. It's a conventional fund, so StashAway Simple™ will no longer be Shariah-compliant
> You won’t incur any fees for this change
> Moving forward, you'll earn returns on your Simple funds every day, but your returns will be reflected in your account on a monthly basis.
> There’ll be no change to the deposit and withdrawal timelines

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post Jun 18 2021, 06:18 PM

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Logically, for a portfolio with significant defensive assets like bonds and gold are not going to beat a diversified 100% equity index.

Short term yes the 100% equity stock can lose but long term say 10-30 year period, unlikely. Otherwise, everyone will just load up on bonds and gold and don't even bother with stocks.
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post Jun 23 2021, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(flying_manatee @ Jun 23 2021, 09:25 PM)
I'm on the 36% risk portfolio and it's dipping a bit right now. Do you guys think it's a good time to add more money in?
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For me yes, because i am not planning to withdraw in another 20 years. In the very unlikely event of 20 years of stagnation i have other investments like epf to fall back on.

Relying on historical data, it is very likely that SA 36% is going to give me a good growth. So i am not phased at all on this short period performance.

When are you planning to withdraw?
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post Aug 11 2021, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(littlegamer @ Aug 11 2021, 11:52 AM)
I'm not going to complain for another 2009, I will be dead happy to dump in more, sp500 that is. in fact if I wanna complain, with kweb dropped over 50% , like u said all portfolio has kweb, aren't we already in a '' 2009'' but China style?

We are on the recover run, yet my returns are same as putting in FD or perhaps lowers.

I don't mind they want to re opt this that, whatever they buy this year, last year and even previous years, if they have just not do anything it will grow better than they buy sell buy sell now.

Happened to vgk, spem, gld, ijr and more. Look at the new xle as an example, if they set to buy beginning of the year, it will have decent growth.

As of all investment the power comes from compound, doing this just kills off the tail end of exponential returns.

I know people is not going to agree with me, and will continue to lick off SA boots just to feel better. My Sp500 portfolio dosent lie

If being a Bogle heads get me better returns, glad to be one.

I also should stay away from this thread , starts to feel like a cult than proper discussion.
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You can't blame SA for being a managed portfolio that is geared towards very conservative bias even at 36%. Think of SA like a volvo. One can't purchase a volvo and expect it to accelerate and speed like Porsche 911 Turbo S. SA is meant for a group of people like unker here (earliest SA investor) who got no time to DIY and want to KISS (just in case this unker passed away my family have easy way to claim my money).

SA is not meant for everyone. If you are young or want to max outcome, then go the Porche way i.e. DIY on ETF route (there is a thread in this sub forum - low fees, passive investing philosophy and max your returns). If I am much younger, I would do exactly that. Alternatively, go for Akrunow (the alternative roboadvisor that invests in S&P500 and if I am not wrong, no re-optimisation).

There are many types of portfolios;
(golden butterfly) https://youtu.be/N4IYiTZcRNo
(100% equity) https://youtu.be/l64AguVOmZU

And many more. Each portfolio are set up for different objectives. So what unker is saying is that when one invest make sure what one is investing is align to one's goal and portfolio.



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