The first page has lots of info and faq. There is no need to keep answering the same questions or for the person to keep searching all the pages to get the info
Investment StashAway Malaysia, Multi-Region ETF at your fingertips!
Investment StashAway Malaysia, Multi-Region ETF at your fingertips!
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Mar 12 2019, 04:16 PM
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The first page has lots of info and faq. There is no need to keep answering the same questions or for the person to keep searching all the pages to get the info
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Mar 15 2019, 03:01 PM
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Usually it takes a day for me. Will take some more days to get invested.
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Dec 28 2019, 07:17 PM
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I think the management fees are low compared with UT equity funds. Where else can you get someone to manage your portfolio at such risk with so low the fees.
For myself SA is just one of my portfolios. SA, CMF, FD, UT equity and bond funds (fundsupermart) and EPF are all part of my portfolios |
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Jan 28 2020, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(mmweric @ Jan 28 2020, 01:59 PM) I used to to spend a lot of time thinking of whether lump sum or DCA was better. Statistically there are quite a few papers on the web which show that lump sum gives a higher chance of a better return. Most of them are based on the US stock market which on average has 3 good years for every one bad year. The purpose of DCA is not to Max returns. It is practically impossible to time or know when the market is going up / down / stable. What happens if you lump sum and suddenly then the market drop by 40%. I used to put lump sum but now I dollar cost average over 6 to 9 months. I have realized it all comes down to regret management. If you DCA in a falling market you lose less but make less in a rising market. If you put in lump sum you lose more in a falling market but make more in a rising market. So for me I decided I hate losing more then not making more so I DCA. If you're like me you can perhaps spread he initial 10k over the next 10 months. Or if it is too much hassle and you want to go for the potential higher gain/loss put it in at once. That my personal opinion but it's up to you which way you prefer The purpose of DCA is to min risk. DCA aims to have average prices. Hence the name, dollar cost Averaging. You aim to have average loses and also average returns. You want to avoid the gamble of putting at the wrong time. If you want to max returns, i suggest lump sum in. Your gamble might pay off too. You might put in at the right time. |
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Mar 6 2021, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 6 2021, 09:56 AM) Ah, I see. Because I'd imagine if I was in my 60s I'd like to not worry about losing value because I am withdrawing for spending during bad times or just... have to hold back on withdrawal because it's down 50% for the next 4 years LOL Switch amount to epf? Since you are 60yrs old, you can withdraw anytime. The problem is epf has a max of 60000 self contribution per year. So either you slowly dca down your higher risk investments to epf or put it further into money markets fundsOn the other hand switching the entire portfolio down to lower risk also feel not worth it.... Interested to know more perspective! |
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Mar 6 2021, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Mar 6 2021, 04:40 PM) I have not much experience in stocks, wouldn't venture into those for now, thanks for listing them down. Do you have a portfolio of investments which includes other investments besides SA? An 8% SA still have volatility and not for emergency funds. Maybe money market funds or savings account for emergencies?What I'm trying to approach by having different RIs is to diversify long term returns in case one of the RIs suddenly pooped by market, lol...macam more like back-up plans. Example, 36% is more aggressive approach to go more on retirement financial freedom, 8% is for retirement emergencies. If that makes sense. Not trying to game it cuz SA is supposed to alleviate my worries by not monitoring, sorta, lol Don't know if this thinking is right, I welcome feedbacks. honsiong liked this post
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Mar 7 2021, 12:13 AM
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Can one really time the market? You have to take into account how inefficient SA / other robo advisors are. It is not immediate you put money you immediate get the etf.
If anyone can time then, they can earn millions already |
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Mar 11 2021, 09:24 PM
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Mar 11 2021, 09:26 PM
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Can anyone help explain to me?
From this link: https://www.stashaway.my/pricing The Annual fee rate (incl. GST) for first RM50,000 is 0.8% but expense ratio charged by ETF manager is approximately 0.2% p.a. I am wondering whether the 0.2% expense ratio already included in the annual fee or the total feel we pay is 0.8% (annual fee) + 0.2% (ETF expense ratio) |
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Mar 11 2021, 10:16 PM
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Thanks for the info
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Mar 23 2021, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Mar 23 2021, 06:17 PM) hi, may i know Stashaway really can make money? yes, you can make money. But in bad times you can lose money too. Invest the amount you are prepared to lose. Have money in emergency fund before investingany good example here? how much to invest ? how much profit get back? WhitE LighteR liked this post
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Mar 24 2021, 10:19 AM
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Mar 24 2021, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(leanman @ Mar 24 2021, 10:40 AM) ATH = all time highWhat do you mean trusting SA? SA meets regulatory requirements in Singapore and Malaysia. Are you talking about returns, then? I can't talk about anyone else, but for me SA has delivered 20.7% (I used XIRR) for my investments since 2018. SA is a long term investment (think 5 - 10 years). For me I am putting it for 20-35 years. So I don't care for all these high and lows volatility, now. If your planning for a very short term investments (1-2 years) and can't bear any capital loss, then there are better investment instruments out there. afif737 liked this post
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Mar 26 2021, 08:37 AM
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What do you mean by % 1 month drop?
For sri 6.5%, the drop is 350%????? |
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Apr 2 2021, 02:56 PM
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Apr 2 2021, 06:29 PM
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I thought that for SA the investment decision is based on formula calculations plus human input. The robo part is only on assessing the risk profile of the investors. SA is successful because of investing mostly in US and some portion in china etfs. This post has been edited by ChessRook: Apr 2 2021, 06:30 PM honsiong liked this post
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Apr 3 2021, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 2 2021, 11:32 PM) The robo part is only involved in the buying and selling of funds. The risk profile already pre set standard algorithm. SA was already successful before they introduced the China ETFs. Xander is correct. There is no robo involved in the buying and selling of funds. As for SA being successful before they introduced the China ETF, that is not my point. I am just saying SA has chosen to invest in the top two growth regions. If SA has chosen to invest in 20-30% in Japanese ETF or 100% in Malaysian ASN variable fund, then, I will sing a different tune.Anyway, kudos to SA. It is my 2nd best (in terms of my personal XIRR) investment vehicle for me (starting 2018) This post has been edited by ChessRook: Apr 3 2021, 08:29 PM |
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Apr 3 2021, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 3 2021, 08:57 PM) How are you liking SA since you're an early adopter? Has it been good for you, and may you share with us your goal investing into SA? Thanks in advance. I have two goals 26% and 36% with about each goal having about half of my SA investments. When I first invested in Nov 2018, I made an unrealised loss -4.6% as at 31 Dec 2018. At that time, I still keep DCA investing into SA and UT since all my other investment assets as at 31 Dec were all red except my fundsupermart bond funds, EPF, SSPN and P2P lending. I had faith to take risk and keep investing because of the historical record of stocks increasing in value long term and even if, stocks did not rebound I still have EPF, which forms the most of my portfolio. As I said earlier, SA is my 2nd best investment vehicle now. My personal XIRR as measured today is 18.5% for the entire SA. My advice to new investors of SA is to look at this vehicle as a long term say more than 5 year period and don't be too worried if your investment is making unrealised losses, now and then. This post has been edited by ChessRook: Apr 3 2021, 09:34 PM tehoice and KingArthurVI liked this post
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Apr 3 2021, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE(Barricade @ Apr 3 2021, 09:45 PM) SA is also my 2nd best investment. First is crypto. The gain is crazy and I cannot imagine any investment can even get near my gain. Yeah crypto can achieved crazy gain but I didn't invest in it. Too volatile for my liking and at my age. I also have some issues with crypto in terms of principle and my ideas on what investments should be. I don't want to discuss further regarding crypto since this thread is regarding SA.This post has been edited by ChessRook: Apr 3 2021, 09:54 PM |
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Apr 5 2021, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 5 2021, 12:41 AM) Thanks for sharing. Yes, I do intend to keep SA going for long term as well, an alternate investment vehicle. It feels alot easier to do recurring on this, probably cuz I've managed the expectations. Although, I do hope it doesn't do worse YoY in red. Even 5% also happy already, but certainly hope with the risks involved, it would do better. I am just wondering when did you start investing in SA? Sometimes I find it less stressful and emotional by moving away from all the investing news and coming back later. I stop reading financial news at end of 18 to 19 after my equities portion turn negative. I just keep my regular investing and at end of Dec 2019 boom almost all of my investment assets are in the black. BTW wishing you greatest of luck |
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