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post Sep 18 2023, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 17 2023, 10:54 PM)
I have been sifting through the threads 1005-this page, and notice mentions on the 'KWEB debacle' - what was this about actually? my bad for not picking this up earlier, but I was caught completely unaware about this
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Got sucked into buying KWEB 🤦‍♀️ and then start panic selling during the start of Ukraine war due to sanctions and they force sell for everyone at the lowest 🤦‍♀️ and not even waiting for relief bounce
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post Sep 24 2023, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 23 2023, 11:34 PM)
Thought these "robo-adviors" means that they can act ojectively, and not making decisions based on "noises" or have I completely gotten it wrong when it comes to what "robo-adviors" actually does?
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This is weird, coz aren't "robo-adviors" meant to make sound decisions not based on market noises ? At best, they should know what positions to take, like on whether to continue holding poitions or to switch portfolios ? Or again, have I gotten what "robo-adviors" actually does ?
Uffff this has to hurt. But to be fair, the NAV is far below the highs of 2021 ? Like I think from the date they sold until now, the NAV hasn't reach the highs of 2021 ? Like making this decisions to leave not as bad - unless you meant to say they should have left in 2021 ?
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These so called robo advisors are not doing the modelling or assets allocation 🤦‍♀️ as the investment committee would decide on asset allocation once the ERAA modelling is out calculated from their data derived from the markets

So don’t think that robo advisors are that sophisticated or advanced using any algorithm as they are not 🤦‍♀️ as the ERAA modelling would have contains all the calculation and the process for parameters hits to be executed after certain benchmarks that are exceeding in your portfolio
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post Sep 26 2023, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 26 2023, 08:07 PM)
I have invested fully on a 36% risk rating (lump-sum once, and a top-up the following month. In other words, two deposits. Invested since Jan'20 until now. In the black but the returns isn't anything great. Question is, do I keep in the investment, or switch over to SA Simple?
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Check your USD performance if it is red 🤦‍♀️ then forget about it 🤦‍♀️ rather than putting into Simple which is underperforming I suggest you to do a flexi portfolio and dump it all in US treasuries instead as you will only pay 0.3% pa while reaping current high USD cash rates and hodl until the Fed rates start cut rates 3times consecutively in the future
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post Sep 27 2023, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 26 2023, 10:49 PM)
Hold up, a further check and it seems that MYR returns is positive (~+130) but my USD returns is in the reds (~-65) ! If I were to liquidate my investment, which one am I getting.... net positive or negative returns?
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Of course you get in RM 🤦‍♀️ and you will be getting from the depreciation of RM while the underlying asset in USD is underperforming or a loss that’s why instead of putting in simple just move it to US treasuries under flexible portfolio
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post Sep 27 2023, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 27 2023, 10:29 AM)
Then I guess it is not too bad, so if I can gauge whether this investment suits my investment profile, it is okay to leave it there compared to switching to Simple? Hmmm my dilemma is between the two only, so I am not keen on leaving SA at the moment
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Switch to flexi portfolio is the best rather than Simple which converts your money 🤦‍♀️ to US treasuries rather than Simple with depreciating returns
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post Sep 27 2023, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Sep 27 2023, 01:26 PM)
aaaaah okay, thanks for the clarifications. So the idea is to not convert to Simple, but to switch to flexible portfolio! There any issues I might face, like maybe I am gonna get hit with conversion fees or something?
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No conversion fees or any fees as it is pure transfer usd to usd portfolio but make sure if you want to save on the management fees make sure the portfolio only has 1 ETFs in it
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post Oct 4 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(HumanLobster @ Oct 4 2023, 03:19 PM)
I can't seem to find what the price is for 2 ETFs in a flexible portfolio. Would it make sense to have 2 different flexible portfolios with a single ETF thereby incurring a 0.3% fee each? Or should you have 2 ETFs in one portfolio and incur > than 0.3%?
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Any portfolio more than single ETFs will incurred the normal fees at 0.8% minimum so it makes to have 2 separate portfolios for 2ETFs as it is more efficient in terms of fees at 0.3% fixed

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post Oct 4 2023, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 4 2023, 03:32 PM)
what do u mean? if i were you, i can create 2 portfolio, for instance

  • Portfolio A - ETF 123
    Deposit Rm300, allocate 99% of my money in the portfolio to that
  • Portfolio B - ETF 456
    Deposit Rm1000, allocate 99% of my money in the portfolio to that

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Doesn’t matter because you incurred minimum 0.8% fees 🤦‍♀️
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post Oct 6 2023, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2023, 03:18 PM)
US markets dipping now. time to dump in more rclxm9.gif
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Dump in more yes 🤦‍♀️ but not in underperforming Stashaway 🤦‍♀️
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post Oct 28 2023, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(TruboXL @ Oct 6 2023, 06:58 PM)
What to look for?
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Markets will still dip even more next week 🤦‍♀️ so lookout for yields to hit 5 and stay there
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post Oct 28 2023, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Oct 28 2023, 07:19 PM)
Can say it in short and simple why it will dip even more next week?
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Fed meeting next week 🤦‍♀️
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post Oct 28 2023, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Oct 28 2023, 10:19 PM)
It still depends on whether they'll raise the interest rates right? If they do, and if they don't, it's different outcome. Incorrect?
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Next week high unlikely they will raise rates 🤦‍♀️ but what is important whether is there any future impending rate raises and the most important signal of whether rate raises is done for the next 6 months

When rate moves up or down, the outcome is decided by the market forces which moves the treasuries yields and equities on whether they welcome or hate the news so the outcome is highly difficult to predict as sometimes when rate raises share still raises

This round a lot factor in play because we have escalating war now in Middle East, sticky inflation in DM and also slowing backdrop in global economy
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post Nov 2 2023, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Shanks747 @ Nov 1 2023, 12:57 PM)
anyone here got put in RM 500, 000 into Stashaway ?

how much is the management fee like ? I saw 0.2%-0.8%

so they calculate like this right RM 500, 000 X 0.8% = RM 4000 (Management fee right ?)
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Yes and you are paying for their platform full of losing money portfolios 🤦‍♀️ with that kind of money at 100k usd better off learning to buy yourself instead at a cheaper costs
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post Nov 2 2023, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Nov 2 2023, 05:20 PM)
Interest rate unchanged

Gonna be green I guess..
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Short green only 🤦‍♀️ wait tomorrow data then you can confirm whether there is another hike incoming in Dec

QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 2 2023, 05:24 PM)
Mine is not flexible portfolio (0.3% is for flexible portfolio. Even thematic portfolio doesn't have the 0.3%). Mine is original % risk index portfolio that was created by Stashaway Malaysia when it first started. Only can choose the % risk and nothing else. So I don't even know how many ETFs are in the portfolio. Looking at the asset class, it just tells you the general locality  or types of assets it holds in %. Don't tell you the specifics.. That's why after Medufsaid replid and I think a bit, I think mine is just based on general % based on $ amount invested
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Check under the assets in your portfolio 🤦‍♀️ the ETFs holdings are there and performance of it
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post Nov 4 2023, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Nov 2 2023, 06:00 PM)
Its ok. Not going to bother anymore for time being as have decided to close my portfolios after not looking at them for a long time. 1 of my portfolio actually have negative returns if in USD.  sad.gif
I think if I didn't find this thread, I would have continue holding them
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I wouldn’t bothered because they underperformed 🤦‍♀️ worse than other robo advisors in the market even though strong marketing

QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Nov 2 2023, 06:02 PM)
There's another data coming tomorrow?

I thought have to wait till December

I somehow think there won't be any hike this year.. but we'll see.
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Jobs data 🤦‍♀️ wait for Core CPI if it is bad they will consider a hike because he already said the possibility is there

Next month jobs data would be also a signal after that
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post Nov 17 2023, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ Nov 13 2023, 09:20 PM)
same here, I am on negative currently  doh.gif  doh.gif

but no choice, have to cut the loss and move on

parkiu SAMY for talking how great the robo is, end of the day it's just not smart enough o0o

only thing considerable is SA simple for it's flexibility
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Nothing to do with robo smart or not 🤦‍♀️ it is the data feed into it and quantify by investment committee who decide on the Asset Allocation which they sucks while underperforming

QUOTE(smokymcpot @ Nov 15 2023, 08:24 AM)
Since the implementation of 0.3% fee for single ETFs (flexible portfolio), does anyone know if if this is cheaper than purchasing them from Rakuten?

Currently using Rakuten to purchase individual US ETFs but UI/UX is not as good as SA and many don't take into consideration that there is a buy/sell spread when converting MYR to USD on top of the usual buying and selling fees

Thank you!
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Forget about it 🤦‍♀️ 0.3% is yearly and if you spread and buy and hold for long term it will be more expensive 🤦‍♀️

When you buy always factored in at least 3% in costs and look forward for at least to cover the costs after 1 year holding

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post Nov 28 2023, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(calapia @ Nov 28 2023, 10:22 AM)
hm... u can try create ur own investment portfolio if you have some etf in your mind instead of use their default portfolio. i start by using SA default portfolio. not great but not too bad either (my personal preference). i am not investment or econ savvy person... but now i only focus on selected etf..
i hv restructure all my etf in SA and manage on my own using SA. means i only select etf that i wanna buy manually and my return close to 10%. some say there are better platform but again its personal preference.
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It is not about the better platform 🤦‍♀️ but long term paying more fees while no control about buying and selling price as history has shown that SA will always sell at the lowest of the day 🤦‍♀️
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post Nov 29 2023, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(godhpf @ Nov 29 2023, 09:42 AM)
Does anyone know whether the 0.3% fees for flexible portfolio includes the expense ratio of ETF?

For example if I buy ISAC (expense ratio 0.2%), does the 0.3% already inclusive of the 0.2% expense ratio by ISAC, which means stashaway takes 0.1%

Or it is 0.3% on top of what ISAC charges, which is 0.2% + 0.3%?
I know it's not simple direct addition but I'll just do that here to keep the example simple.
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ISAC expense ratio is charge directly through the ETF price

So 0.3% is separate fee charged by SA as platform usage fee 🤦‍♀️

QUOTE(ehwee @ Nov 29 2023, 12:32 PM)
Anybody try and heard of Airo Etf? Another Etf platform for Malaysian coming up.

https://www.airo.my/

Edit...

Just discover there is a tread about it a year ago

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5262243&hl=Airo

But looks not many one seems interested on it.
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Don’t bother 🤦‍♀️ as they very aggressive now asking me to invest but it still underperforms the market

QUOTE(calapia @ Nov 29 2023, 02:15 PM)
oh ya this is true also...  we never know the exact buy/sell price of it... a downside of it.
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That is why is stayaway 🤦‍♀️ and don’t bother paying fees unless die die want local platform with RM portfolio viewing to syiok own self 🤦‍♀️
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post Nov 29 2023, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ Nov 29 2023, 02:26 PM)
Isn't the transaction price shown in the app transaction history and the monthly statement?
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Only after the trade is executed 🤦‍♀️ so you won’t have any control to set the buy and sell price as transaction price control is by SA 🤦‍♀️

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post Nov 29 2023, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Nov 29 2023, 02:38 PM)
I don't think can change region. I'm not IT person but the user database should be separate.

Have to open fresh account, but might want to ask StashAway Singapore if can convert from Malaysia account, find them in social media.
The politicians says negara kecil senang urus.
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You need to logout 1st 🤦‍♀️ and then top right hand corner there is button to change the region and change it to whatever you want

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