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Samsung galaxy s10 weak ? Or faulty, Discussion on my shitty s10
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x-frame
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Mar 11 2019, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 11 2019, 01:52 PM) exactly... but as one user here said, general consumers dont care. as long its good out of the box for power users like us we are open to more options samsung with some tweaking can achieve as good batt life as huawei But if certain apps that I really use and it is banned on Huawei phone, that is a drawback to the phone and I might not get that phone. Like I said they need to strike a balance... Huawei is too aggressive and that's actually bad. Imagine you buy a phone and this app cannot use, that app cannot use.. Really sien. All in the name of conserving battery life. I buy my phone to freaking enjoy whatever I want... Lol
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 11 2019, 03:02 PM) Your 2014 HTC m7 First 2 days SOT how many hours? No idea mate I think I was about 16 or 17 years old when I got that phone . But the point is not all flagship phone as you describe takes battery fast on standby. I got no problem if it takes battery fast when I'm using it on heavy apps or game. And that being say when I was young my first android phone can out survive 2019 battery. Hell even my old iPhone 3g can survive longer on standby. Fyi I'm not here to discuss on technical matters, just simply here to tell you that my old device flagship to some temporary phone has never given me issue regarding battery to the point I need to discuss it on internet.
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(x-frame @ Mar 11 2019, 03:13 PM) But if certain apps that I really use and it is banned on Huawei phone, that is a drawback to the phone and I might not get that phone. Like I said they need to strike a balance... Huawei is too aggressive and that's actually bad. Imagine you buy a phone and this app cannot use, that app cannot use.. Really sien. All in the name of conserving battery life. I buy my phone to freaking enjoy whatever I want... Lol Yes! If this phone is draining battery normal for my case (based on ohman saying flagship is meant be like that) then I think Samsung really doesn't have the balance for endurance / sustainability.
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ohman
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Mar 11 2019, 03:32 PM
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Bro. If you are serious.
Come to Samsung s10 thread.
We do step by step trouble shooting.
Edit: if the phone is this bad, how are they going to sell 45mil s10 this year?
This post has been edited by ohman: Mar 11 2019, 03:33 PM
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ZeneticX
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Mar 11 2019, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(Lavalemon @ Mar 11 2019, 03:24 PM) No idea mate I think I was about 16 or 17 years old when I got that phone . But the point is not all flagship phone as you describe takes battery fast on standby. I got no problem if it takes battery fast when I'm using it on heavy apps or game. And that being say when I was young my first android phone can out survive 2019 battery. Hell even my old iPhone 3g can survive longer on standby. Fyi I'm not here to discuss on technical matters, just simply here to tell you that my old device flagship to some temporary phone has never given me issue regarding battery to the point I need to discuss it on internet. lets put it this way hardware tech had been progressing rapidly these past few years, especially screen, camera and software but battery tech is pretty much stagnant, except increase in capacity its not surprising some old or basic phones can last longer
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 11 2019, 03:33 PM) lets put it this way hardware tech had been progressing rapidly these past few years, especially screen, camera and software but battery tech is pretty much stagnant, except increase in capacity its not surprising some old or basic phones can last longer Well idk for Samsung but I remember getting some advertisement for my old phone that said its processor takes less power to operate and its more efficiently. Well as I said maybe I expect too much from a Samsung. I really do appreciate everyone's opinion and taking time to tell me what is normal etc however I just kinda have an expectation on phone and losing tons of battery at idle is really just shit for me
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Mar 11 2019, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 11 2019, 03:33 PM) lets put it this way hardware tech had been progressing rapidly these past few years, especially screen, camera and software but battery tech is pretty much stagnant, except increase in capacity its not surprising some old or basic phones can last longer Yea man.... People want more POWER, FEATURES, FUNCTIONS, Better CAMERA, BIGGER SCREEN, More Apps, Blah blah blah.... but the battery can only give that much of juice. Samore, people want it Small, SLIM and can fit into 1 hand. Kesian the battery!! Imagine putting this battery onto the old Nokia phone... Power gile!!
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Mar 11 2019, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(Lavalemon @ Mar 11 2019, 03:38 PM) Well idk for Samsung but I remember getting some advertisement for my old phone that said its processor takes less power to operate and its more efficiently. Well as I said maybe I expect too much from a Samsung. I really do appreciate everyone's opinion and taking time to tell me what is normal etc however I just kinda have an expectation on phone and losing tons of battery at idle is really just shit for me Go to the S10 forum, you just need to kill those s2pid apps running in the background. including those pre-installed apps which some people dont use. Every app developer will try their best to have their app to run on the background, So you will just need to kill it
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(x-frame @ Mar 11 2019, 03:42 PM) Yea man.... People want more POWER, FEATURES, FUNCTIONS, Better CAMERA, BIGGER SCREEN, More Apps, Blah blah blah.... but the battery can only give that much of juice. Samore, people want it Small, SLIM and can fit into 1 hand. Kesian the battery!! Imagine putting this battery onto the old Nokia phone... Power gile!! Ahh i see thanks for all your guidance, I believe the way to overcome this issue would be to surpass the technology barrier regarding the processor . If it can run super efficiently I guess the power needed to run all the apps and hardware can fall drastically. Anyway thanks for your guide
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 11 2019, 03:32 PM) Bro. If you are serious. Come to Samsung s10 thread. We do step by step trouble shooting. Edit: if the phone is this bad, how are they going to sell 45mil s10 this year? People buy whatever they think is trendy or high demand or a prestigious. Strong marketing can do the job. There is a saying that apple can sell anything for a million and people will still buy it's just the matter of time. Samsung has strong marketing too this time their tag line was something like "10 years perfection" or something I cant remember but tbh I'm sold just by the packaging But you saying people using low to mid range phone expect battery to last forever and lightning fast is wrong and isn't nice dont you think ? I'm age 22 I may have more small revenues and asset than you when your my age and someone younger may have start earning 5 figure. Theres always someone better I dont think it's nice to judge someone just because they have used some cheaper brands phone for business phone. Anyway to answer your question if everyone thinks it's normal for first few days and so be it . I'll just send for warranty or further diagnosis in the future if problem still occur
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nickchk89
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Mar 11 2019, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(x-frame @ Mar 11 2019, 03:42 PM) Yea man.... People want more POWER, FEATURES, FUNCTIONS, Better CAMERA, BIGGER SCREEN, More Apps, Blah blah blah.... but the battery can only give that much of juice. Samore, people want it Small, SLIM and can fit into 1 hand. Kesian the battery!! Imagine putting this battery onto the old Nokia phone... Power gile!! key point is optimization, i suspect exynos is not efficient compare to snapdragon,test run by anandtech suggest the kernal use for exynos are badly optimized (us snapdragon version produce much better results) s10 got 3400 mah, the size is decent, yet most of the user only managed around 4 to 5 hour sot(which is average in 2019), Oneplus 6 with smaller battery manage to do well ( around 6 sot), granted op6 only got 1080p, but that's not the main issue. the only way to offset is bigger battery,like note 9 and s10 plus,i think offer better value than s10.
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ohman
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Mar 11 2019, 04:26 PM
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Awwww triggered. Good for you, but some may never make 5figures the rest of their life.
And given that you call your whole experience 'shit', maybe like what people say, shit people encounter shit stuff.
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Theoutspokenguy
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Mar 11 2019, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(Lavalemon @ Mar 11 2019, 04:18 PM) People buy whatever they think is trendy or high demand or a prestigious. Strong marketing can do the job. There is a saying that apple can sell anything for a million and people will still buy it's just the matter of time. Samsung has strong marketing too this time their tag line was something like "10 years perfection" or something I cant remember but tbh I'm sold just by the packaging But you saying people using low to mid range phone expect battery to last forever and lightning fast is wrong and isn't nice dont you think ? I'm age 22 I may have more small revenues and asset than you when your my age and someone younger may have start earning 5 figure. Theres always someone better I dont think it's nice to judge someone just because they have used some cheaper brands phone for business phone. Anyway to answer your question if everyone thinks it's normal for first few days and so be it . I'll just send for warranty or further diagnosis in the future if problem still occur If you have so much revenues as you claim you wont be complaining about this. Sometimes it could be a simple user mistake like brightness set manual then set to 30% but easier for us to help you is to share your battery usage after 1 day to 2days. Btw share this page This post has been edited by Theoutspokenguy: Mar 11 2019, 04:29 PM
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Theoutspokenguy
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Mar 11 2019, 04:27 PM
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Repeat
This post has been edited by Theoutspokenguy: Mar 11 2019, 04:27 PM
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x-frame
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Mar 11 2019, 04:45 PM
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Forgot to mention, recently like 3 weeks ago. I did a test on our phone ISP vs phone battery life. Found out that 1 phone network (ISP) consume more juice while using the same phone. Reason being it's very often on H+ and the phone has to use up more juice to receive and transmit with that weak signal. The comparison was between Unifi Mobile and U Mobile. U Mobile seems to drain more battery juice as it often toggles between H+ and 4G (Depending on your location - only speaking about my location) and I am not talking about a slight difference, it was a significant difference. Now I am testing out XOX. So your telco also plays a role, just take note on your connection. disclaimer : I do not work for any of those telco and in fact my main line is using UMobile because they have the most suitable package for my usage. This post has been edited by x-frame: Mar 11 2019, 04:48 PM
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ZeneticX
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Mar 11 2019, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Mar 11 2019, 04:24 PM) key point is optimization, i suspect exynos is not efficient compare to snapdragon,test run by anandtech suggest the kernal use for exynos are badly optimized (us snapdragon version produce much better results) s10 got 3400 mah, the size is decent, yet most of the user only managed around 4 to 5 hour sot(which is average in 2019), Oneplus 6 with smaller battery manage to do well ( around 6 sot), granted op6 only got 1080p, but that's not the main issue. the only way to offset is bigger battery,like note 9 and s10 plus,i think offer better value than s10. some are reporting similar screen on times on the S10 to S10+ (5 - 7 hrs SOT) the only one which is sort of mediocre is S10e but thats expected given its size but just wanna repeat my point, battery life is very subjective and everyone got different expectations screen on time alone for me is not an accurate representation of the overall batt life, as most of the time to get good screen on time you would sacrifice the stand by time
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nickchk89
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Mar 11 2019, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 11 2019, 04:52 PM) some are reporting similar screen on times on the S10 to S10+ (5 - 7 hrs SOT) the only one which is sort of mediocre is S10e but thats expected given its size but just wanna repeat my point, battery life is very subjective and everyone got different expectations screen on time alone for me is not an accurate representation of the overall batt life, as most of the time to get good screen on time you would sacrifice the stand by time i agree, good thing is s10 series got wireless charging,just buy a pad and you're good to go(put the pad on office) if ts really concerned for battery,sell s10,buy note 9 and s10 plus i hope Samsung would improve software optimization and its exynos, else it would turn down many buyer(eg me)
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Mar 11 2019, 04:26 PM) If you have so much revenues as you claim you wont be complaining about this. Sometimes it could be a simple user mistake like brightness set manual then set to 30% but easier for us to help you is to share your battery usage after 1 day to 2days. Btw share this page  The revenue is just an analogy my friend , there is a word "may" if you understand. Anyway I've used it more than 2 days however factory reset after another removed the data . Ps I found the definition of sot This post has been edited by Lavalemon: Mar 11 2019, 05:36 PM
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SUSkevin23
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Mar 11 2019, 05:39 PM
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Samsung phones are known to be not fully optimized. Thats why the battery life is usually average only.
Yes thr will be some clowns who say turn off this and that , reduce resolution to save battery but thats not the point.
If u need to turn off many features whats the point?
Kirin processor is super efficient and its so optimized .Thats why battery life on Huaweis are fantastic. Its the 2nd best optimised phone behind apple. Of cuz nobody beats apple when it comes to optimization.
Alot of samsengfags are gonna defend but thats the fact which they cant accept.
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TSLavalemon
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Mar 11 2019, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(ohman @ Mar 11 2019, 04:26 PM) Awwww triggered. Good for you, but some may never make 5figures the rest of their life. And given that you call your whole experience 'shit', maybe like what people say, shit people encounter shit stuff. Mate I'm not triggered as much as you think I am , I dont really take pride in arguing over some random person from the internet. However I just think you lack the social skill to interact or maybe you're just not understanding my analogy in judging Anyway have nice day and stay off this thread if you're being triggered on the other end
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