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mushigen
post Mar 9 2019, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Mar 9 2019, 10:59 PM)
My 2015 vios doesnt have vsc
Need to change once my 5 yr warrantt end
Nowadays countless of cars out there is equipped with vsc
Even base spec myvi has it
Dont make an excuse for ur life
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I wonder why you chose Vios with just 2 airbags when you could have chosen City with ESC and 6 airbags?
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:12 PM

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I don't even know her until today. RIP anyways
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 9 2019, 11:12 PM)
I wonder why you chose Vios with just 2 airbags when you could have chosen City with ESC and 6 airbags?
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I get 6k discount from toyota
Honda 1.5k

Go figure
And at that time, vsc wasn't popularize yet

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post Mar 9 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 9 2019, 11:10 PM)
Tin cans won't catch fire? In addition, how many drivers die from fire compared to die from impact?
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It seems nowadays cars are much more prone to catch fire compared to 20 years ago.

Even not eksiden also catch fire, scary mang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q_37sT1VQ
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2019, 05:32 PM)
From the photos, looks like this corner

https://www.google.com/maps/@3.0830337,101....3312!8i6656
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If the car was turning right, why did the damage is mostly on the right as well? Unless the car went straight for the tree, I don’t see how the right wheel got damage. And why the middle of the road like got some spilled liquid?
I see a lot of people hit the middle divider. Infact a small section was bent recently and was removed. Now with a cone sitting on top of the end part. I wonder if she hit that instead.
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 9 2019, 10:39 PM)
Tell it to those who preach about buying cheap A-segment cars or old cars, or those who brag about owning a few properties but choose to drive tin can old cars with 2 airbags at most and no ESC.
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If can have a few props means they work to death la. Work long hours. No need to think about safety
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Mar 9 2019, 09:35 PM)
But if the impact is that great, the front of the car would have buffered the impact and koyak. But according to the photos the car front part or even the sides aren’t really severely damaged
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Means a bad design on crash zone. Maybe designer didn't expect big tree at road side. Recently I saw my boss X5 crash photo, I taught he bang on lorry, but he told me is a proton.

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post Mar 9 2019, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Mar 9 2019, 10:59 PM)
My 2015 vios doesnt have vsc
Need to change once my 5 yr warrantt end
Nowadays countless of cars out there is equipped with vsc
Even base spec myvi has it
Dont make an excuse for ur life
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Not only VSC, look at the car damage.
Bang tree and the whole cabin space compromised d.

Euro ncap and Malaysia ncap are totally different altogether.
Like cx5 is a 5 star euro ncap car. Let's say aruz is a 4 star Malaysia ncap car. If head-on of course cx5 has higher chances of survival.


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post Mar 9 2019, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Mar 9 2019, 10:30 PM)
If u can afford a better car with better safety why not?
Save all the money, but die in an accident because using a rubbish car with no safety feature
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No one know it's going to happen until it happened.
Especially if you never experience loss control of car in your whole life, but the one and only time took your life.

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post Mar 9 2019, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 9 2019, 11:43 PM)
Not only VSC, look at the car damage.
Bang tree and the whole cabin space compromised d.

Euro ncap and Malaysia ncap are totally different altogether.
Like cx5 is a 5 star euro ncap car. Let's say aruz is a 4 star Malaysia ncap car. If head-on of course cx5 has higher chances of survival.
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Haha
Year 2020 I will look into it
Haf this concept of changing to new car after 5 yr warranty end

Or just use the car until becomes scrap
Still thinking


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post Mar 9 2019, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(hcmalaya @ Mar 9 2019, 09:13 PM)
Langgar Pokok
If compare to crash test side sweep
Head likely will slip away from airbag position and hit beam
RIP
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If got vois got 4 air bag (curtain air bag).......
Too bad.
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post Mar 9 2019, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 9 2019, 11:44 PM)
No one know it's going to happen until it happened.
Especially if you never experience loss control of car in your whole life, but the one and only time took your life.
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kena twice in my potong iswara
first round, jam brake steering str8 lock

second round tire botak

What I learnt from these two is, need ABS so your steering wont lock and change tire or else, your car wont have grip

Next, is VSC. That's for future purchase

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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 9 2019, 11:38 PM)
Means a bad design on crash zone. Maybe designer didn't expect big tree at road side. Recently I saw my boss X5 crash photo, I taught he bang on lorry, but he told me is a proton.
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I've seen many trees accidents. Above 160kmh whatever u drive into the tree becomes your coffin.
Because impact is too big. Not even Porsche driver can survive a tree direct impact at 160kmh

But for normal collision, if see car cabin warped is a bad sign for safety.

Good car has a high tensile impact bar in front as well as back. Just Google car model barebone frame can see it already. Cars like perodua don't have it.

Difference with cheap local cars and high safety rating car is the speed of collision that may cause death. With cheapo car will die even at low speed, good car still die, but need to drive at super high speeds.
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QUOTE(Daylight2018 @ Mar 9 2019, 11:47 PM)
Haha
Year 2020 I will look into it
Haf this concept of changing to new car after 5 yr warranty end

Or just use the car until becomes scrap
Still thinking
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Buy used car with full features. U won't regret it.
Especially with wider tyres, your car will be more planted to the road.

U see those BMW X5, Audi Q7 SUV can drive very fast during rain, take corners like nothing.... It's all because of the tyres and car stability.




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post Mar 10 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 9 2019, 11:54 PM)
Buy used car with full features. U won't regret it.
Especially with wider tyres, your car will be more  planted to the road.

U see those BMW X5, Audi Q7 SUV can drive very fast during rain, take corners like nothing.... It's all because of the tyres and car stability.
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Not interested in conti due to the fact that it will burn you alive, in terms of maintaining it.

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post Mar 10 2019, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 9 2019, 11:49 PM)
I've seen many trees accidents. Above 160kmh whatever u drive into the tree becomes your coffin.
Because impact is too big. Not even Porsche driver can survive a tree direct impact at 160kmh

But for normal collision, if see car cabin warped is a bad sign for safety.

Good car has a high tensile impact bar in front as well as back. Just Google car model barebone frame can see it already. Cars like perodua don't have it.

Difference with cheap local cars and high safety rating car is the speed of collision that may cause death. With cheapo car will die even at low speed, good car still die, but need to drive at super high speeds.
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A good car design with proper crash zone. See the Lotus Elise (20+ years old design) with a detachable crash zone, once crash just remove the crash zone and glue back a new one. If more serious crash that deform the chassis, then is a write off.

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post Mar 10 2019, 12:03 AM

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From the impact picture doesn't look serious, don't understand why she dint make it.

A lot of ppl killed due to not knowing what is car safety
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post Mar 10 2019, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Mar 9 2019, 11:54 PM)
Buy used car with full features. U won't regret it.
Especially with wider tyres, your car will be more  planted to the road.

U see those BMW X5, Audi Q7 SUV can drive very fast during rain, take corners like nothing.... It's all because of the tyres and car stability.
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I think those speeding cars like what u mentioned are fiddling with luck... once your tyre lose grip, I dun think any ESC or stability can save u...

On the other hand, those who drives slow and careful.. I don't think they need ESC...

Sometimes, as they say, cars with full safety feature die faster exactly because drivers feel invincible because of the load of safety features and this theory has its logic...

Often times, I see those Audis taking corners on wet road "like nothing" and I fear for their lives...
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QUOTE(keyser soze @ Mar 10 2019, 12:02 AM)
A good car design with proper crash zone. See the Lotus Elise (20+ years old design) with a detachable crash zone, once crash just remove the crash zone and glue back a new one. If more serious crash that deform the chassis, then is a write off.

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Mazda cars comes with the impact bars.
Of course that's like carrying extra weight but it's gonna save your life.

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post Mar 10 2019, 12:15 AM

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Most probably she wasnt wearing her seatbelt.
This is why we should always wear seat belt.

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