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post Jun 21 2007, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2007, 02:25 PM)
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I mean this rims.. I also want to get this rims.. RM500++ with tyre..
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it can fit LMST ah? looks nice oh..
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post Jun 21 2007, 02:42 PM

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hey...i think dats a stock rim for iswara right? sure can.....

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2007, 02:25 PM)
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I mean this rims.. I also want to get this rims.. RM500++ with tyre..
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laugh.gif Its look like WISE rim....
how many inch?
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QUOTE(Chyan @ Jun 21 2007, 02:42 PM)
hey...u think dats a stock rim for iswara right? sure can.....
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stock rim for iswara?
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post Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM

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hi all sifus.....just wondering what are the cost reduction done to reduce the price so much to RM27k from previously about RM37k......if not mistaken

my dad just bought one LMST and here are the differences that I can spot....hope you guys could give more comments so that I know more on what has been reduced on the LMST compared to the iswara.....

1. no clock
2. front passenger side....no drawer....only got the place to put things....
3. the air cond vent.....bigger blades means less assembly and process
4. carpets are those very thin coil rubber type....
5. the place for you to rest your hand on the side of the door....is much much shorter now...
6. the car seems lighter...
7. the door is missing the rubber lining on the outside....
8. no more spoiler on the back
9. the meters seems to be compact together......and the blue light is very dim.....must be really dark then can only see clearly.....I think I prefer the yello/amber light more....
10. signal lights and brake lights are much smaller than the iswara...
11. the cushion seems to lack some cushioning material.....the iswara feels much firmer and more sponge.....
12. the LMST engine compartment are much more clean and organize....is this the reason why i see a lot of space there? or some things are reduced in size or taken out?

anymore that you think I am missing.....

do let me know if I made any mistake...

also, this is not meant to give bad comments on the new LMST.....by all means....the price is very cheap......and I might be thinking of getting my hands on one too but I would like to see what other changes they made to reduce the price so much.....


Added on June 21, 2007, 2:50 pmdon't flame me ya........

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post Jun 21 2007, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM)
hi all sifus.....just wondering what are the cost reduction done to reduce the price so much to RM27k from previously about RM37k......if not mistaken

my dad just bought one LMST and here are the differences that I can spot....hope you guys could give more comments so that I know more on what has been reduced on the LMST compared to the iswara.....

1.  no clock
2.  front passenger side....no drawer....only got the place to put things....
3.  the air cond vent.....bigger blades means less assembly and process
4.  carpets are those very thin coil rubber type....
5.  the place for you to rest your hand on the side of the door....is much much shorter now...
6.  the car seems lighter...
7.  the door is missing the rubber lining on the outside....
8.  no more spoiler on the back
9.  the meters seems to be compact together......and the blue light is very dim.....must be really dark then can only see clearly.....I think I prefer the yello/amber light more....
10. signal lights and brake lights are much smaller than the iswara...
11.  the cushion seems to lack some cushioning material.....the iswara feels much firmer and more sponge.....
12.  the LMST engine compartment are much more clean and organize....is this the reason why i see a lot of space there?  or some things are reduced  in size or taken out?

anymore that you think I am missing.....

do let me know if I made any mistake...

also, this is not meant to give bad comments on the new LMST.....by all means....the price is very cheap......and I might be thinking of getting my hands on one too but I would like to see what other changes they made to reduce the price so much.....
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they also din provide sport rims, oni got rim cover compared to LMSS.
but not to forget.. they added quite many things too.. power steering, cd player and reverse sensor..

my personal opinion as the owner of the new LMST, it is quite worth buying. but the quality is undeniablely not so good but the value for money for this car is ok..

the january or february edition of LMST's price is around RM35k but it's features are exactly the same as the new RM27k LMST..

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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 02:52 PM)
they also din provide sport rims, oni got rim cover compared to LMSS.
but not to forget.. they added quite many things too.. power steering, cd player and reverse sensor..

my personal opinion as the owner of the new LMST, it is quite worth buying. but the quality is undeniablely not so good but the value for money for this car is ok..

the january or february edition of LMST's price is around RM35k but it's features are exactly the same as the new RM27k LMST..
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wah....like that whoever bought the RM35k LMST with same features must be damn pissed....

ok...noted on the sport rims....but the tires looks like 14 inch right?

power steering is a good plus....but I would have prefered to get my own cd player and reverse sensor....
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM)
hi all sifus.....just wondering what are the cost reduction done to reduce the price so much to RM27k from previously about RM37k......if not mistaken

my dad just bought one LMST and here are the differences that I can spot....hope you guys could give more comments so that I know more on what has been reduced on the LMST compared to the iswara.....

1.  no clock
2.  front passenger side....no drawer....only got the place to put things....
3.  the air cond vent.....bigger blades means less assembly and process
4.  carpets are those very thin coil rubber type....
5.  the place for you to rest your hand on the side of the door....is much much shorter now...
6.  the car seems lighter...
7.  the door is missing the rubber lining on the outside....
8.  no more spoiler on the back
9.  the meters seems to be compact together......and the blue light is very dim.....must be really dark then can only see clearly.....I think I prefer the yello/amber light more....
10. signal lights and brake lights are much smaller than the iswara...
11.  the cushion seems to lack some cushioning material.....the iswara feels much firmer and more sponge.....
12.  the LMST engine compartment are much more clean and organize....is this the reason why i see a lot of space there?  or some things are reduced  in size or taken out?

anymore that you think I am missing.....

do let me know if I made any mistake...

also, this is not meant to give bad comments on the new LMST.....by all means....the price is very cheap......and I might be thinking of getting my hands on one too but I would like to see what other changes they made to reduce the price so much.....


Added on June 21, 2007, 2:50 pmdon't flame me ya........
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Your mentioned iswara is a old model, few year before
If i not wrong, since 2004 iswara model was replace with LMST saga,
and the price remain as around RM35k-RM38k
untill this offer period, RM27k

So the product actually same althought before offer period.
but 27k LMST does not come with sport rim
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post Jun 21 2007, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 21 2007, 03:04 PM)
Your mentioned iswara is a old model, few year before
If i not wrong, since 2004 iswara model was replace with LMST saga,
and the price remain as around RM35k-RM38k
untill this offer period, RM27k

So the product actually same althought before offer period.
but 27k LMST does not come with sport rim
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i know....that's why I want to compare with the old model....what is different....
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post Jun 21 2007, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979)
wah....like that whoever bought the RM35k LMST with same features must be damn pissed....


they shud be..


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:04 pm
QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 21 2007, 03:11 PM)
i know....that's why I want to compare with the old model....what is different....
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old iswara got no power steering, cd player and reverse sensor.. hahaha..

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post Jun 21 2007, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 11:47 AM)
wat kinda of stickers are u ordering?
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u can view from the first page..look at blackpc's ride..u can see the monster sticker...anyway,if ur interested please pm me and i collect money from u go buy it..


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post Jun 21 2007, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2007, 10:46 AM)
Sentra rims?? Haha.. 16 inch or 15 inch?? Got people selling ICE rim for RM450.. I believe it sure very heavy.
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sentra i think 15". seriously it's very very light.
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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 21 2007, 09:59 AM)
stock alloy rims for LMSS & LMST is 14" with 185/60/14 rubbers.

u can choose from few generations of 15" waja rims and there were once waja came out with 16". Perdana also have some 15 and 16 inches plug and play for saga/iswara. U can also go for Neo's 16". Although plug and play, you still need to add spacers for the rear at least. icon_idea.gif

just remember to wrap your 15" with nothing more or less than 195/50/15 rubbers whereas for the 16", 205/45/16 would be great. Combination of tyre profiles and rim size will effect the overall diameter and also your speedometer reading. Unless you have done major power improvement, these sizes should be sufficient. icon_idea.gif

Protons' rims wont be that light. Last time when I went to the tyre shop with batista_beast, we were recommended rims from Nissan Sentra... it's damn light for stock alloys. thumbup.gif
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yeah bro...i remember the sentra rim..quite light but not my type of rims..i wonder still got aa that rim..can poison singchai tu buy them..hahahahaha

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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 02:38 PM)
it can fit LMST ah? looks nice oh..
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yes its pcd is 114.3 same with saga/iswara.

QUOTE(Chyan @ Jun 21 2007, 02:42 PM)
hey...i think dats a stock rim for iswara right? sure can.....
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 21 2007, 02:43 PM)
laugh.gif Its look like WISE rim....
how many inch?
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nope, it's stock waja rims. 2nd latest design. The campro waja running on different rims now. 15" with 195/55/15 rubbers.
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 21 2007, 03:04 PM)
Your mentioned iswara is a old model, few year before
If i not wrong, since 2004 iswara model was replace with LMST saga,
and the price remain as around RM35k-RM38k
untill this offer period, RM27k

So the product actually same althought before offer period.
but 27k LMST does not come with sport rim
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it was replace by LMSS model first full spec with all acessories but i not sure whether LMSS got power steering or not. That car cost around RM 40k if i m not mistaken FC is very bad. Loud exhaust with old dashboard. Then only they change to LMST starting with the red color model. Then they starting to make it sportier with the removal of drawer, clock etc etc but they add in rear spoiler with sportier antenna.


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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 21 2007, 04:16 PM)
sentra i think 15". seriously it's very very light.
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any pictures?

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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 04:03 PM)
old iswara got no power steering, cd player and reverse sensor.. hahaha..
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haha..reverse sensor only beginners maaaa laugh.gif

if comes standard then ok la...takkan nak cabut pulak..mine oso got no cd player (2005 version) but got power steering


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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2007, 04:20 PM)

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any pictures?
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go to this website, http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/13/new...ft-in-malaysia/

it's the rims in the 2nd picture.
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2007, 04:20 PM)

Added on June 21, 2007, 4:22 pm
any pictures?
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the rims look like this..correct me if i'm wrong blackpc...aku pun lupa macam mana rupa rim tu...

but i think i look like this one..seriously,it's very light..compare to the perdana 15" rim i'm using now...


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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 02:38 PM)
it can fit LMST ah? looks nice oh..
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Can fit.. Sure look nice la.. I got a seller wanna sell this rims.. But alot of member tekan his price and give negative comment to him make him tulan already.. So he don't want to sell it anymore.. sad.gif

QUOTE(Chyan @ Jun 21 2007, 02:42 PM)
hey...i think dats a stock rim for iswara right? sure can.....
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No la.. Stock rims fom iswara where got so nice??

QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM)
hi all sifus.....just wondering what are the cost reduction done to reduce the price so much to RM27k from previously about RM37k......if not mistaken

my dad just bought one LMST and here are the differences that I can spot....hope you guys could give more comments so that I know more on what has been reduced on the LMST compared to the iswara.....

1.  no clock
2.  front passenger side....no drawer....only got the place to put things....
3.  the air cond vent.....bigger blades means less assembly and process
4.  carpets are those very thin coil rubber type....
5.  the place for you to rest your hand on the side of the door....is much much shorter now...
6.  the car seems lighter...
7.  the door is missing the rubber lining on the outside....
8.  no more spoiler on the back
9.  the meters seems to be compact together......and the blue light is very dim.....must be really dark then can only see clearly.....I think I prefer the yello/amber light more....
10. signal lights and brake lights are much smaller than the iswara...
11.  the cushion seems to lack some cushioning material.....the iswara feels much firmer and more sponge.....
12.  the LMST engine compartment are much more clean and organize....is this the reason why i see a lot of space there?  or some things are reduced  in size or taken out?

anymore that you think I am missing.....

do let me know if I made any mistake...

also, this is not meant to give bad comments on the new LMST.....by all means....the price is very cheap......and I might be thinking of getting my hands on one too but I would like to see what other changes they made to reduce the price so much.....


Added on June 21, 2007, 2:50 pmdon't flame me ya........
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Brother, don't compare LMST with previous iswara.. The thing I had bold, I thing you need go back SC and ask.. My LMST carpet is high quality and half inch thick carpet not only in passenger place but also using that carpet on my rear boot space..Not those rubber type.. And most of accessories shop selling is a custom carpet.. My LMST still have very cute stock spoiler ler.. How come you don't have? The signal and brake light look smaller cause wanna create new design mah.. Haha.. Anyway, I was driving a RM27k LMST.. I had compare my LMST with my friend LMST which he bought it at RM35k +++. I compare interior and exterior and I found out nothing different lor.. Maybe those thing cannot see got different la.. And, LMST car cushion is much more comfortable that old iswara.. And about the meter, mine blue light is bright enough ler.. How come your 1 dims?? Find catacomb teach you diy putting Hi flux led.. Hehe.. My previous car is Iswara 1.3 aeroback and now i driving LMST RM27k. Feel much more better that previous iswara.. The different is the car seem abit lighter and door panel abit fragile.. NO clock nevermind la.. At least it had clock at cd player.. Last time my iswara clock more worst.. Turn on headlight only, the clock become dim already.. Haha.. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

I also wanna find out from where they cut the cost but too bad.. Nothing I found.. Haha..

QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 21 2007, 04:16 PM)
sentra i think 15". seriously it's very very light.
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Erm.. Blackpc, any lubang to get the waja rims or the sentra rims you mention boh?

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QUOTE(batista_beast @ Jun 21 2007, 04:34 PM)
the rims look like this..correct me if i'm wrong blackpc...aku pun lupa macam mana rupa rim tu...

but i think i look like this one..seriously,it's very light..compare to the perdana 15" rim i'm using now...
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wrong. that sentra is not even in malaysia yet. refer to the url i've given earlier.

QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2007, 04:44 PM)
Can fit.. Sure look nice la.. I got a seller wanna sell this rims.. But alot of member tekan his price and give negative comment to him make him tulan already.. So he don't want to sell it anymore..  sad.gif

I also wanna find out  from where they cut the cost but too bad.. Nothing I found.. Haha..
Erm.. Blackpc, any lubang to get the waja rims or the sentra rims you mention boh?
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actually it's quite normal to have people trying to bargain this kind of rims. Your friend should have just traded off the rims when he changed his rims earlier. Buyers nowadays are very smart since they already know how much shop will sell those kind of rims. Even if they're selling it a bit more expensive, you'll get installation+balancing+spacers+new rubbers altogether. You will also get some assurance that if anything happens to the rims within few days time you'll still have means to complaint.

I can bring u to a shop in bangi, where they sometimes have nice newly skimmed and painted used rims from different car makers. batista_beast knows the place as well. They might not have a lot to choose from, but the price and after sales service are worth it.

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