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tester1979
post Jun 21 2007, 02:48 PM

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hi all sifus.....just wondering what are the cost reduction done to reduce the price so much to RM27k from previously about RM37k......if not mistaken

my dad just bought one LMST and here are the differences that I can spot....hope you guys could give more comments so that I know more on what has been reduced on the LMST compared to the iswara.....

1. no clock
2. front passenger side....no drawer....only got the place to put things....
3. the air cond vent.....bigger blades means less assembly and process
4. carpets are those very thin coil rubber type....
5. the place for you to rest your hand on the side of the door....is much much shorter now...
6. the car seems lighter...
7. the door is missing the rubber lining on the outside....
8. no more spoiler on the back
9. the meters seems to be compact together......and the blue light is very dim.....must be really dark then can only see clearly.....I think I prefer the yello/amber light more....
10. signal lights and brake lights are much smaller than the iswara...
11. the cushion seems to lack some cushioning material.....the iswara feels much firmer and more sponge.....
12. the LMST engine compartment are much more clean and organize....is this the reason why i see a lot of space there? or some things are reduced in size or taken out?

anymore that you think I am missing.....

do let me know if I made any mistake...

also, this is not meant to give bad comments on the new LMST.....by all means....the price is very cheap......and I might be thinking of getting my hands on one too but I would like to see what other changes they made to reduce the price so much.....


Added on June 21, 2007, 2:50 pmdon't flame me ya........

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post Jun 21 2007, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(zhixin @ Jun 21 2007, 02:52 PM)
they also din provide sport rims, oni got rim cover compared to LMSS.
but not to forget.. they added quite many things too.. power steering, cd player and reverse sensor..

my personal opinion as the owner of the new LMST, it is quite worth buying. but the quality is undeniablely not so good but the value for money for this car is ok..

the january or february edition of LMST's price is around RM35k but it's features are exactly the same as the new RM27k LMST..
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wah....like that whoever bought the RM35k LMST with same features must be damn pissed....

ok...noted on the sport rims....but the tires looks like 14 inch right?

power steering is a good plus....but I would have prefered to get my own cd player and reverse sensor....
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post Jun 21 2007, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Jun 21 2007, 03:04 PM)
Your mentioned iswara is a old model, few year before
If i not wrong, since 2004 iswara model was replace with LMST saga,
and the price remain as around RM35k-RM38k
untill this offer period, RM27k

So the product actually same althought before offer period.
but 27k LMST does not come with sport rim
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i know....that's why I want to compare with the old model....what is different....
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post Jun 22 2007, 04:14 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 21 2007, 04:44 PM)
Can fit.. Sure look nice la.. I got a seller wanna sell this rims.. But alot of member tekan his price and give negative comment to him make him tulan already.. So he don't want to sell it anymore..  sad.gif
No la.. Stock rims fom iswara where got so nice??
Brother, don't compare LMST with previous iswara.. The thing I had bold, I thing you need go back SC and ask.. My LMST carpet is high quality and half inch thick carpet not only in passenger place but also using that carpet on my rear boot space..Not those rubber type.. And most of accessories shop selling is a custom carpet.. My LMST still have very cute stock spoiler ler.. How come you don't have? The signal and brake light look smaller cause wanna create new design mah.. Haha.. Anyway, I was driving a RM27k LMST.. I had compare my LMST with my friend LMST which he bought it at RM35k +++. I compare interior and exterior and I found out nothing different lor.. Maybe those thing cannot see got different la.. And, LMST car cushion is much more comfortable that old iswara.. And about the meter, mine blue light is bright enough ler.. How come your 1 dims?? Find catacomb teach you diy putting Hi flux led.. Hehe.. My previous car is Iswara 1.3 aeroback and now i driving LMST RM27k. Feel much more better that previous iswara.. The different is the car seem abit lighter and door panel abit fragile.. NO clock nevermind la.. At least it had clock at cd player.. Last time my iswara clock more worst.. Turn on headlight only, the clock become dim already.. Haha..  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

I also wanna find out  from where they cut the cost but too bad.. Nothing I found.. Haha..
Erm.. Blackpc, any lubang to get the waja rims or the sentra rims you mention boh?
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hmm....ok....looks like the SC will kena some complain from me liao....

i will check on the carpet in the service centre....maybe the showroom SA make some changes/swap illegally?

and the blue lights really dimlah.....especially during the dusk/dawn time.....only bright when its totally dark.....

oh ya, you reminded me on the door.....it seems so light and i need to put a lot of force to close it....unlike other cars.....

clock is just a display....because i am thinking of upgrading the HU.....

QUOTE(blackpc @ Jun 21 2007, 10:58 PM)
hmm.. one of LMST's known issue.

Actually this happens because the air conditioner circulation lever is not properly closing the air vents, resulting in engine smell entering the cabin. Get it rectified with your SC. They will tighten the cable a bit.
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oh yes....one more thing about the air cond....how come the car my dad has the air cond is so weak.....fan #4 liao but wind is not that strong...i already put the vent configuration to the direct cabin flow.....but still can feel some wind coming out from the windshield vent and the leg vent.....

need to go sc and complain.....
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post Jun 22 2007, 10:56 AM

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thanks all for the advice.....

but one thing i will never understand the mentality of proton....

the lever for vent configuration is there.....so logically you can change to what you want.....as the capabality is there......

but if you change and the config go hay wire....why put there in the first place and make the customer angry and frustrated......

the door very bad....need to slam....though on the passenger side on the left not that bad.......i need to ask them adjust.....but anyone know how i can do this manually without going to sc?
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post Jun 22 2007, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Jun 22 2007, 11:48 AM)
Proton just for see nia.. Other foreign got, proton must have too but proton abit paria.. Janji ada itu facilities..

The door can be adjust manually.. Hard to explain here.. The best solution is bring it to SC.. It will kau tim for you.. Later you wrong adjust, make you can closed but cannot opened.. Hehe..
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err....got any pictures with guides to show ah?

my hands itchy lah....want to try to manually do it my self first...if cannot then ask SC to do it lah....if cannot open ....then I will talk with loud voice at the SC.....he he he....so cruel of me......


Added on June 22, 2007, 12:06 pmon bars....can try zenden lah.....

i feel the performance is good and for me....the finishing and looks is important....

with metallic finishing on the front bar....i was very impressed than other brands which looks like simply paint only....

plus it comes with lifetime warranty as long as you use it on the same car.....

so far I have no complaints....

check out some pictures here......

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=10239589

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post Jun 23 2007, 03:33 AM

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i buy castrol 10W/40 semi synthetic from the authorised distributor at RM72.....
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post Jun 24 2007, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Jun 23 2007, 07:47 PM)
where u buy??... i want i want...  drool.gif
bought it near at the shop that is in taman paramount pj....

BJM Auto Parts

03-78769062

i got their contact from castrol headquarters in KL because I want to make sure that I get the real and original castrol engine oil as i heard got some fakes around.

anyway, since this shop sells the original and they take huge bulk......they can afford to sell at rm72 and they dun take credit card for this as they say their profit margin is very low....

I am buying another 2 bottles next week......just bought 1 bottle last week at RM72 (most of service garage sells at rm95++)

since the crude oil prices kept soaring up, the engine oil price might go up next month, the shop say as they will take in new stock next month.....according to the shop, shell's engine oil price already go up a lot......

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