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EPF - self contribution, need advise
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Wong Kit yew
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Nov 12 2019, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 12 2019, 10:30 PM) Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan) As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions. *Not applicable to members that receive a fixed employer contribution. *Government contribution is limited to members who are below age 55. If you are self-employed, you can look into i-Saraan contribution with the government incentive of 15% by contributing RM1,667 per year until Y2022. For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees. This post has been edited by Wong Kit yew: Nov 12 2019, 10:44 PM
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MUM
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Nov 12 2019, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(Wong Kit yew @ Nov 12 2019, 10:42 PM) For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees. i-Saraan Benefits EPF Dividends: until age 100 EPF Death Benefit: RM2,500 EPF Incapacitation Benefit: RM5,000 EPF Tax Exemption: RM6k (shared with life insurance)** 2014-2017: Government matching contribution 10% up to RM120 (for up to RM1,200 contributed) 2018-2022: Government matching contribution 15% up to RM250 (for up to RM1,667 contributed) Note: Government matching for contributors below age 55 only https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/** before the recent amendment?
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honsiong
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Nov 12 2019, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 12 2019, 11:01 PM) i-Saraan Benefits EPF Dividends: until age 100 EPF Death Benefit: RM2,500 EPF Incapacitation Benefit: RM5,000 EPF Tax Exemption: RM6k (shared with life insurance)** 2014-2017: Government matching contribution 10% up to RM120 (for up to RM1,200 contributed) 2018-2022: Government matching contribution 15% up to RM250 (for up to RM1,667 contributed) Note: Government matching for contributors below age 55 only https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/** before the recent amendment? 4k lah for 2019, 3k for life insurance separetely. So i-saraan got tax benefit after all?
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MUM
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Nov 12 2019, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Nov 12 2019, 11:06 PM) 4k lah for 2019, 3k for life insurance separetely. So i-saraan got tax benefit after all? those qualified and have money to spare,...... only need RM1667 to get RM250
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Sean77
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Nov 21 2019, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(bourse @ Jul 16 2019, 10:12 PM) Below is my own experience.if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest. if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest. if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest. - self contribution via bank on 1/3/2018. appear in EPF account in 2/3/2018. Dividend for Mar2018 till Dec2018. This year will try bank in say 27/28 of the month, to try out the dividend calculation. 2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02. You self do a counting? - yes, I do my own calculation. if total +/- 5 sen, I take it correct. unless you manual key in after the calculation like rm123.456, you re-key into the worksheet as rm123.46. then, it should be okay. Sorry, ild thread. If Some1 bank in 60k lump sum in Nov, how much dividend will he get next year. Is it gonna be pro rated by the number of month before December?
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cute_boboi
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Nov 21 2019, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2019, 09:16 AM) Sorry, ild thread. If Some1 bank in 60k lump sum in Nov, how much dividend will he get next year. Is it gonna be pro rated by the number of month before December? As stated above, if bank in (cleared) into EPF on 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Nov & Dec (2/12 x % x amount) If after 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Dec (1/12 x % x amount) only.
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Sean77
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Nov 21 2019, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 21 2019, 10:04 AM) As stated above, if bank in (cleared) into EPF on 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Nov & Dec (2/12 x % x amount) If after 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Dec (1/12 x % x amount) only. Gotcha... Tq bro
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Human Nature
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Dec 1 2019, 02:56 PM
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If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right.
If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right?
Thanks
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zapster79
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Dec 1 2019, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 1 2019, 02:56 PM) If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right. If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right? Thanks Based on my experience, it takes 2 working days to appear in your account.
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yeowhock
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Dec 1 2019, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 1 2019, 02:56 PM) If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right. If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right? Thanks Me too, 2 working days
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frostfrench
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Dec 2 2019, 04:06 PM
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Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u?
I always thought it is in December, am I right?
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MUM
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Dec 2 2019, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Dec 2 2019, 04:06 PM) Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u? I always thought it is in December, am I right? I think for those over 55 yrs old, and with money laying around in FD only,....January would be the best month....
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cute_boboi
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Dec 2 2019, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Dec 2 2019, 04:06 PM) Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u? I always thought it is in December, am I right? Why December ? If you think EPF is stupid, no. EPF will pro-rate the contribution based on the month, so dividend is pro-rate depending on the month+1 it is banked in.
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Human Nature
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Dec 2 2019, 08:03 PM
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The month is prorated, but not the day right? So near the end of the month is no different than early or the month.
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kaacip
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Dec 2 2019, 08:23 PM
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New Member
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this link would explain everything about the dividend calculation https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/how-to-ca...e-epf-dividend/
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Human Nature
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Dec 2 2019, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(kaacip @ Dec 2 2019, 08:23 PM) this link would explain everything about the dividend calculation https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/how-to-ca...e-epf-dividend/From the below example, does it mean that any contribution from the second half of the month gets the same interest regardless of the exact date? ie. 15th Feb gives the same dividend as 27th Feb for the month of February? QUOTE From 15th until 27th February, dividend is calculated as follow,
Account 1 dividend = (70,000 + 700 – 1000) x 5.65% / 365 x 13 days = 140.26 Account 2 dividend = (30,000 + 300) x 5.65% / 365 x 13 days = 60.97
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MUM
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Dec 2 2019, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 2 2019, 08:55 PM) From the below example, does it mean that any contribution from the second half of the month gets the same interest regardless of the exact date? ie. 15th Feb gives the same dividend as 27th Feb for the month of February?  looks like 15 ~ 27 is 13 days, thus the calculation is 13 thus I think if deposit on 27 Feb then only 1 day don't you think so?
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Human Nature
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Dec 2 2019, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 2 2019, 09:15 PM)  looks like 15 ~ 27 is 13 days, thus the calculation is 13 thus I think if deposit on 27 Feb then only 1 day don't you think so? That is why I am confused because from the example shown, it appears to be no different. This post has been edited by Human Nature: Dec 2 2019, 09:27 PM
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MUM
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Dec 2 2019, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 2 2019, 09:26 PM) That is why I am confused because from the example shown, it appears to be no different. that example has a withdrawal in FEB, thus the balance is different... I think that is the reason for 2 calculation in FEB using 2 different number of days
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Human Nature
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Dec 2 2019, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 2 2019, 09:57 PM) that example has a withdrawal in FEB, thus the balance is different... I think that is the reason for 2 calculation in FEB using 2 different number of days Makes sense too. At least now I know that contribution on a date gives daily interest for that month too. I mistakenly thought that it will only take effect the following month.
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