Hai fren, we have already advised you to talk to her directly about what makes you unhappy with her.

We already told you that she is not serious with the relationship, she is comfortable with the status quo. Perhaps you are quite different in real life, but the vibe many of us are getting is that you are more than happy to announce that you have your grandfather's ringgits pouring out of your ears. A showboaty person is not a humble person, therefore making generosity by others (her) a hard thing to express back to you.

Apart from the (perhaps mostly sexual) companionship, she is not what you are looking for.

You asked for a coffee, you get a Ramli. Obviously you are not happy with that.

Ok, tell you what, we will just tell you exactly what you want to hear.

Yeah you are very lonely, yeah she is very bad to you. Yeah you should go play her. Happy now?

What audi? Am i wrong to tell him that a girl shouldnt always be the one to wait for ppl to pay? I dont understand why ppl like you dont understand simple shit like this.

I dont normally go online and ask for advice, but i do it this once because I'm just confused. Maybe i give you the vibe that im a showboaty person, but im merely just trying to give you both of our life background perspectives so you all will have a clearer imae of the situation.

Believe me when I say I am far from the only person who is getting that vibe.

We already gave you our advice. Would you like to spin the wheel for another?

What you mean by we? Most ppl here give different answers. Stop saying as if your opinion is on behalf on everyone else here who commented lol

Yup, everyone gave different answers. It was a collective "we". My opinion was surely my own.

1. 22yo
2. full of dedication
3. new in kl, won't get to know new friends? you're still very young mah phren...
4. teach people how to be a girl
5. accuse of people dont understand.

okla, go on, you should carry on.
wish you all the best.

Damn WTF. I think I'm old already..this new generation damn horny. lol

There. Fixed

Show Rolex and Audi, 1 week kao dim lol.
But seriously TS, being 22 year old and receiving everything that you can possibly dream off, did you give back the same to your parents or grand parents?
Same situation, your dating a gold digger and doing the same what your parents and grand parents did for you, whats so hard? I don't believe they ask you to give back everything they spend on you and such so why not the girl can't do the same?

If you are the grandson of a 500mil USD company in Malaysia, I tend to assume that an arrange marriage will be more common as the parents wants a daughter that has business connection so not sure if your parents will just accept any girls that your dating without a background check.

That's just a my opinion, I do not know you so I can't judge on your character or anything as of now, just giving base on everything I read here.

Edit: Just to rephrase a bit here, most of the guys out there that are dating are constrain to a certain budget but you don't hold the same rule here, so your ability to attract girls that either they like you or not is normal. You need a lesser effort compared to other guys here which wants to start a relationship.

This post has been edited by Spawny: Feb 22 2019, 04:18 PM

LOL true. At 22, I was driving my mom's old Perdana. No wonder take so long to piap with my gf.

But seriously, you mentioned that she likes to go KTV to get high. Is that someone you want to be with for the long term? If it's just to onz and have fun, then you already know your answer on what to do next.

I would like to offer my suggestions to so many of your posts from the perspective of a 52 year old man. I will give a longer reply because there will be no simple answers.
My observations
1. You said you are 22 years old UK graduate but I found out your english expression is very poor, I don't understand what you are an writing until you elaborate further.
You really need to brush up your vocabulary and english expression.
For the expression "Gold Digger" it usually means woman who approach man or marry them for the purpose of getting gift and present or money and will leave the man
if the man no longer provide these gift, present or money. But can you call her gold-digger if you have not give her any expensive gift or cash ?

2. You are an in the process of developing from a child into an adult like an adolescent.

2. You are really young at 22 years old and you said your family is rich like the top 1%.

3. You said you are shy and lonely until you met this 28 years old girl.

4. You complain she does not pay for most bills but she sexually satisfy you and she is a good companions.

What I think a 22 years old should do

1. A 22 years old man with rich family should pursue his career and gain more knowledge. Get a MBA or a Master degree !, Why wasting your life going out to KTV and parties ?
These type of entertainment should really be occasional like every 2 weeks.

2. You should widen your circle of friends and contacts related to your career and business. Call up your old classmate and see what they are doing. Have more concern for your
friends and old classmates.

Sexual Relationship

Because you are an adolescent, you fancy sex and always you want her to go to hotel rather than to ktv.

You wrote so nicely of her so may I suggest you ask her to live with you in your parent house or you rent a apartment and live together. In this way you can have sex everyday and
know better of her. If she can do BJ well then you can bring that into a higher level by doing icy water BJ alternate with Hot Tea BJ.

When you and her are living together, then you can work out a family budget. Ask her to save this % and leave that % for spending on entertainment. In a process call budgeting,
let say you earn 8K and she earns 5K, you can at least ask for join budget on entertainment say 2k to go KTV and drinking. She can also give suggestions for other places etc and
everything will evolve from there.

What types of Girlfriend or prospective wife you should avoid that are WRONG :-

1. Older girl make bad girlfriend or wife is not true. Older within 10 years of your age is ok but rather a 22 year having intimate girlfriend should not have happened .. Older women
are smarter so if she care for you why not ?

2 Girls that are stingy and do not share or pay expenses when dating. 1st of all please do not spend money you cannot afford. Nowadays KTV and drinking per night can cost RM500
and above for 2 persons. So if you do not have the cash please do not go spending and later blame your girlfriend for not sharing the bills. Go to watch a movie or sport activities would
be better.

Girls are always conservative and like to save money. Eastern oriental values are always placing the man as head of family and the person who pay the bills. So Naturally even she has
the money, she would not pay for you unless you are living with her with budget done and agreed together. On the other hand if she pay part of your expenses, you may feel she look
down on you or has other demand. My conclusion is that Girls that are stingy and do not share or pay expenses when dating are not necessary bad girlfriend.

For your information girls are always an expense item, most man will spend thousand to get a girlfriend and get married, many more thousand to raise the kids. So really you need to
spend and choose wisely and only the very lucky one (<1%) will get money help from their girfriend and wife.

3. Better late than never is not true in a relationship. In your case you may want to wait for her to tell you how she love you can able to pay the bills etc but why not you now ask her
whether she is willing to live with you and face you everyday and sort things out together. You said you already know her for a few months then you already has intimate relationship
then go to the next step.

The Benefits you can get from Living together (同居)
1. When you and your girlfriend are living together, you will knows more about her than ever. From there you will grow up more mature. If she ask you for a 2 carat diamond ring as
gift (40K) then you can call her gold digger otherwise please do not assume things before it happened, because that is call prejudice.

2. Demystifying sex. Man want love because they want sex and Woman want sex because they want love is always true. Sex has been greatly exaggerated by commercialization especially
the Japanese AV star in porn movie. When you live together and have daily sex, there is really nothing so mysterious about it.

3. At 22 years old if you already living together there is a good chance you can get a good marriage and happy family and plenty of children. Imagine if you get married at 25 and your sons
may be 20 years old when you are 45 years old. You can retire early and spend you life playing for another 40 years until 85 years old if you can live that long.

What do you need to do to prepare for Living Together (同居)

Because you mentioned she has agreed to go for oversea trip with you together, I see a good chance she will agree to living with you.You need your parent support in living together with her.
How to persuade your parents are difficult for me to suggest but even for yourselves who need to make this decision. But I can only say these few points.

1. Life is like a journey and we need to experience life and not speculate and gossip about it.

2. I am ready and willing to solve all problem when living together with her. This is what love means solving problem caring and tolerating each other for their weakness. The first girl I met would
be the best one because I do not know when I can know another girl or even another girl may be worse than her.

3. Living together allow us to compromise and sort things out but if it does not work, we can separate without the hassle of a formal divorse with so much embarrasment to everyone. I can still
able to stand up and look for another girlfriend if I breakup with her.

Note

Try not to have baby when you are living together, things will be irreversible.

Try to voice out whatever you want with her before and after living together. Thats is where you sort all the differences. Either you tolerate and forgive her or she change to suit you. That should
be your expectation and not surfing /k and speculating this and that. You have a good background so make full use of it !

Try to set a 2 years limit to any living together before registering for marriage. If you or her found out that the others has serious problem then better breakup than continue living together.

I see you and her living together as the best options, she will behave differently when living with you so you can further assess. For the better or worse outcome, you have nothing to lose as you
are very young.

Perhaps also the following may help

What is the best quality of a girlfriend/wife ?

1. Love and care for you and continue to do so even after marriage. This means sacrifying her time for you.

2. Some objections but finally agreed to what you say. You must be tactful too.

3. Good interpersonal skills. Need to make your parents and relative happy.

4. Physically healthy and with good family background but not necessary rich.

5. Hardworking and willing to care for the family. If she don't care about cleaniness then she is a lazy person. If she always said your this is dirty but would not clean it for you then this is called
demanding but uncaring. If she always like to learn this and do that but end up doing nothing then she is a dreamy person.

6. Can have baby. (So better prove she can get pregnant before marriage)

This post has been edited by 2malaysia: Feb 22 2019, 04:08 PM

omg... what a reply that was...
I currently work in my grandfather's office. Sorry if i gave out the impression that my english was poor; i was giving out rushed replies from my office laptop. Also, i believe my level of vocabulary is descent enough for anyone to understand. Frankly speaking, i really dont enjoy the work I'm doing now. I dont talk to my work mates and i have no motivation in learning about the business(they do MLM). At the same time I'm also not interested in doing masters due to certain health issues that i shall not disclose.

I think you are right. By this week I'm planning to move out and stay in one of the apartment my family owns near KLCC with a friend. I'm planning to also ask the girl to stay with me to get to know her better and see out all the differences we have in each other. Also, yeah she agreed to go Bali with me but only if i agree to pay for her tickets. But i dont know, im afraid if she expects me to pay everything for the trip.

BTW, i forgot to mention all the KTV trips i go with her are free, because she knows alot of people tat open tables and i dont really drink much so theres not much expenses involved apart from me buying cigs to smoke lol

Nonetheless, a really interesting perspective from a 52 year old. Everything you put out comes from someone with alot of experience in life, and truthfully i appreciate your advice. I hope to be able to improve myself as a person and understand my situation with this girl better.

Oh my.... 2malaysia, you've just made My Genie came out without some good Rubbin'... Someone should actually pin this post. Tbh there's really a lot of good points there that the younger generation should learn.

Genie approves.

ViktorJ eh shiba see this

This post has been edited by RubMyGenie_: Feb 22 2019, 04:54 PM

Yes, i was once a water fish. Thats how i learned. Lol.


How many times had you gone out with her?
If its many then that is in no way comparable right? Roadblock is adhoc and does not count. Ramli is too cheap to be counted in comparison to what you had been dishing out.
Being considerate means like in a date you pay the meal, then she pays desert / movie / wherever you both hang out after makan. This should come naturally in a genuine mutually interested relationship.

Just because you can afford it does not mean you should always pay.

Also i understand that you are young and want to flaunt you car and wealth. Do understand that when you flaunt you will of course attract girls interested in what you flaunt. If you really want to find a genuine relationship, focus on your personality and dont flaunt money and assets.

Its just a principle some girls have. That does not mean she is not interested in you. Why you want her to owe you anything? Do you think that if you pay more you will have a relationship? Thats not how it work for a genuine relationship.

I once had a short rship with a girl that was about 4 years older to me.

I was 27 at that time. The sex was insane ....didn't last tho....her bf come back from UK studies and got back with her.

I walked away smiling

TS, you know what's the problem here?

This woman is 28 y.o., spends her time clubbing and at KTV, and will bj you and swallow your cum... although you two just met for LESS THAN A MONTH. She's NOT even your gf.

& you expect such a woman to what... be committed to you, share responsibilities and help you out? (← Only ideal wife material will do these.)

You're male. You should know that men generally classify women into 4 categories:

1. fuck buddy/ FWB/ ONS/ hookups & gold diggers
2. doormat
3. really friends
4. ideal wife material.

She belongs to category 1, and you expect her to be category 4.

If you're looking for a lifelong partner and serious relationship, this girl is NOT for you. I'm 29, I'm female, and I've seen many types of girls... and I can tell you that this girl is shit.

A girl who's in her late 20s but still doesn't manage her life well, is basically NOT an ideal wife material at all. Even if you date her and wanna marry her, think of how your filthy rich grandpa and parents would react... she won't be able to handle their grill and fry, nor will she be able to help you in family biz.

So, be realistic in your expectations. Don't fall in love with a fuck buddy.

Since she belongs to category 1, just pay for the "dating" expenses, and take it as paying a hooker for her bedroom services.

This post has been edited by Ralna: Feb 23 2019, 01:34 AM

I guess all guys suffer that at some point of their life

Snap....First world problem. At least your words hit my spot. Cant agree more. This is just sad.