https://www.carlist.my/news/new-mazda-cx-8-previewed/54686/

:thumbsup:





This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Feb 18 2019, 09:36 AM

the captain seats nice

Wait until bermaz Malaysia strip down most features but still put premium price.

Inb4 foresee the digital speedometer will gone for Malaysia spec/market.

Same goes to captain seat i guess

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Feb 17 2019, 04:44 PM

digital for sure is gone, but it looks garbage anyways with that clear outline right in the middle of the dash

but the captain seats is confirmed spec.

It a must features for 2018 2019 car.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/104864807/mo...e-new-mazda-cx8

If it is true what is headlined in this Kiwi's review. We have reason to be excited.

"More than 5, less than 9, but close to 6 - the new Mazda CX-8"

No kidding?!

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Feb 18 2019, 08:42 AM

They dropped mazda 8 mpv and introduced this. Nice.. now im curious how much space is available for the 3rd row.

Can see from youtube. Acceptable but not very big as Vellfire etc. Designed for kids.

https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/suv/142698...st-drive-review

(Almost 1 year ) Old review but still.@ Bangkok Post

The diesel version is rumoured to be the 6 seat version and will carry a pricetag of more than RM200k.

Not sure what's the rationale for one of these.

Too much premium for that price. Its a Mazda. Not sure how bermaz categories themselves.
Since we still lacking some so called new features of new facelift vs what US market are getting in the model.

I thought the all new santa fe diesel version also will be >rm200k? Actually santa fe diesel previous version also >200k.

...Yet many unrealistically expecting Kia Sorrento's pricing here

Buy 2 x70.

Better buy 3 Aruz.

Willing buyer willing seller mah, 200k can also only buy half of a 2019 Land Rover Range Rover Evoque or Half of a Lexus RX300 or half of a BMW X5.....

Anyway I would think this CX8 petrol version since no AWD and can be stripped down (fabric seats and what not) by BERMAZ have a chance of sub 200k pricing

Ya from the pricing of existing CX-5 (already almost Sorento pricing) my guess is that the CX-8 must add something like at least 30k for the extra 2 seats. Specs for specs, meaning if a high spec CX-5 petrol 2.5 2WD of RM160k, the CX-8 would at least be 190k. Still kinda ok as Sorento top spec is about RM178k ish. Many ppl still prefer Jap than Korean cars.

For me I just went straight and bought myself a Sorento FL 2.2D AWD few mths ago.

If my guess is right, which would mean the CX-8 2.2D AWD would cost at least RM174k + 30k = 205k still below the RM220k many predicted. Crucially, all CX-8 has no 3rd A/C vents and no MRCC

Good to know, how is the workmanship at inokom kulim? (the same place CX 5 and soon CX8 will be CKD- assembled), I have never own any car roll out from that plant but would like to think they should be good since it is also where BMW , Mini and Land Rover AFAIK also make the 3 and the 5 , x1 , x3 , countryman and defender.

Some korean cars also assembled there.

Workmanship wise (specifically on the cx5), i guess not too bad since very established assembly operations and very experienced. Some more, seems like this assembly site will be the regional assembly hub specifically for cx5 model only.

And among all the brands being assembled, as a singular car brand operations itself, mazda (supposedly) has the largest stake in the assembly plant at 29%. So, by logic, mazda malaysia would pay quite a lot of attention to their products made there.

Another 15% owned by hyundai group korea and the remaining majority slice belongs to sime darby.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mazd...ringboard-asean

As a recent mazda owner myself (not cx5 though), tried out the new cx5 a bit, i can the plant didn't cheap out the product.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Feb 20 2019, 11:03 AM

My Sorento is quoted as CKD, but many told us it's actually SKD only very few parts were fitted here in Kulim. So the quality is quite solid, very much like European car not the squeeky Jap cars.

Yeah many Hyundai but not Kia. The latter is done at Naza Auto Mfg (NAM) @GURUN, Kedah whom I must say has been disappointing as far as my Peugeot 408 SKD (also done at NAM) is concern.

Perhaps.it is time I get my self one that roll out from Inokom for a much needed change....BMW , MIni, Mazda or Hyundai?!

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Feb 20 2019, 03:51 PM

My last Hyundai (Accent ) has left me a bad taste in my mouth....I am always also worry about the strong Korean won that only makes (some) parts pricey like European even though I believe the Korean has improved in strides these days.

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Feb 20 2019, 03:54 PM

Hmm...I dont think the gap between the lowest spec to high spec is just 190k vs 205k. Furthermore they want to introduce 4 variants. It should be like 190K, 200K, 210K & 220K.

Well, at the moment the CX5 2.5 petrol is already a high-spec version, then above it is the 2.2D 2WD then 2.2D 4WD version, gap is 15-17k in these specs. Ya I do agree that if CX-8 is going to have 4 models from 7 seats to 6 seats, petrol to diesel, the gap will be widened but if Mazda overdo it, they are going to price themselves to a no-man-land. 30k gap across 4 models is a bit hard to swallow for the potential buyers

Afterall this is just guessing work, even if Mazda has proper pricing it will be subjected to Govt's approval as well. Good luck to those interested

https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/01/30/...-sales-decline/

2018 was a good year where Mazda gain market share and has big jump in sales in Malaysia due to new CX5

Will 2019 conrinue it's strides with CX8?

Personally I don't think CX8 can do that.

The new Mazda3 and the upcoming new CX3 will out sell the CX8.

mazda 3 was quite ok on sales due to CKD, price and features available considering its price. time factor also bcz civic has not launch when mazda 3 here.

Mazda saw its volume jumped 66.8% from 9,454 units to 15,765.....BAuto’s success story was largely driven by the new CX-5, which was launched in October 2017 according to the report

I believe big sales numbers comes mostly from SUV then segment C these days. Moreover CX3 is not CKD (while the planned CX8 are) and have to be sourced from Thailand. Historical both 3 and CX3 are selling only so so here in Malaysia. While I am not discounting these two new models' potential, I will bet more in CX8 since it has CKD pricing advantage, it is in a less competitive 7 seater SUV market and potentially stealing some would be premium brand shoppers.

Mazda in 2018 has knock down both BMW and Mercedes in terms of market share according to the same article...

"Mazda strode two steps upwards to the sixth position in market share rank, relegating the country’s leading premium brands Mercedes-Benz and BMW one rank down to the seventh and eighth positions respectively."

I bet CX8 is well positioned to do more of that.

Isnt the suv shape will kill the 3rd row leg space?
Toyota will be happy nobody gonna compete with their velfire and alphard

SUV leg room of course by default will be more challenging than MPV.

But I don't think that is the market that CX8 intends to after?!
Price point one is from RM362k , another from RM443k, they are not in the same league. (Unless you are talking about the grey imports)

The closest match from Toyota is actually harrier but no third row.

SUV is the in thing right now for cars, the market has new found fondness to SUV.

Those that shop for SUV are not into minivans like the velfire/alphard/estima.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-to-malaysians/

...The Mazda CX-8 will be sold in Malaysia at a price that will be between RM180,000 to RM195,000.....

BIAR BETUL

http://www.theborneopost.com/2019/02/23/ma...positive-start/

...AffinHwang Capital noted that most non-national carmakers saw a y-o-y decline in sales volume for 1M19.

However, Mazda was the “star performer” in 1M19, clocking in 1,600 units (up 23.5 per cent y-o-y), thanks to the popular demand for the revamped CX-3 and CX-5.

“We learnt that backlog for Mazda vehicles stood at 2,500 units as at end February 2019.....

That IS the SUV power from Mazda. So far no one come close.

https://www.carlist.my/news/not-gona-be-che...mw-level/54846/


HOLY COW . New Mazda 3 sold at BMW 3 series pricing. News from down under.

fuh....siao liao....

better buy 2nd hand iif that's the case....

Suddenly feel korean cars even more value for money in the future....

I am just curious if this is something that Mazda will follow suit in Malaysia, may be not almost up to bimmer's pricing but 17-22% price up

Mazda 3 must be damn good to make Mazda asking such premium pricing from its predecessor.

hopefully bermaz will not cut many features just to get low price in our market

For local market mindset, as long as not BMW/Audi/Mercedes, all else not considered premium brand = not worth to pay the premium.

The mazda 6 is the most telling history. When initially launched, the pricing is a slight premium, but the competitors offering weren't attractive, so buyers willing to pay. But after that, when new models/refreshes comes in, the mazda6's sales slowed down pretty much (from what i observed in my area, other places could be opposite of what i'm observing). The facelift did add quite some added "premium-ness", but still ain't moving much.

And to add salt to injury, the market trend is now on the craze of SUVs. If the new platform applied starting from the cx5, then maybe got hope that people can still find some attraction. But on the sedan, it will be really really hard.

Mazda may want to play the market between normal mainline brands and premium market. Could be a smart move, but i'm not optimistic it can turn out well in our market. But toyota also start playing with this space starting with the chr and the new camry, so eventually the market may get used to it.

Low feature = lower pricing = better take up

I may be wrong but I thought Mazda 6 did Not sell well because it being CBU, pricing wise, it would have lost by default?

Don't think Malaysian are overall keen with CBU, to pay more premium since it is fully imported is one thing but to pay high import duty is altogether another big no no for many.

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Mar 1 2019, 04:37 PM

https://www.cars.com/articles/mazda-hints-a...-1420757482468/

Is it not obvious?

Finally....Open for booking ; 15% to 20% more costlier than CX5....Meaning price is reaching RM200k level.180k to 195 OTR before insurance ?

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Oct 1 2019, 04:20 PM

For a full sized 7 seater SUV I think it's quite a good deal.

mahal a bit but dont get the digital speedometer like newest Cx5, mazda 3?

The top specs AWD should surpass RM200k mark, being a diesel and > RM200k I think hard to get any buyer for that one.

Very curious why they do not want to launch a 2.5T AWD verion. That one if price at around RM200k it should get good response.

Also no ACC, WTF !!

I'd pick the CX-8 2.2Diesel anytime over the Hyundai Santa Fe. The CX-8 felt a level above the Santa Fe in terms of wheel base length & car length, not to mention Mazda badge got more road presence in Malaysia than Kimchi Hyundai.

I thought the new mazda design philosophy follow the newest mazda 3, ie get GVC Plus, digital meter, android auto etc.
the kulim made cx8 kinda backward on spec.

2.2d , hold the pedal down and watch the sped climb

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/chai...tsyear-malaysia

Got from someone in my whatsapp group, holy moly

-----------------------------------------------------------

Dear all, Mazda CX-8 indicative vehicle price :

Estimated available early of Quarter 4 2019

1, CX-8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+3+2, No Leather Seat) Est RM 177,000

2, CX-8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+2+2, No Leather Seat, Walk Through) Est RM 182,000

3, CX- 8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+2+2, Leather Seat, Center Console) Est RM 197,000

4, CX- 8 2.2L Skyactiv-D AWD (2+2+2, Leather Seat, Center Console) Est RM 222,000

It’s open for booking now, please feel free to contact me for booking if you are interested. Thank you

Your MAZDA Sales Advisor
Grace Low
012-2717588

Waiting for big discount on M6 and no kruk kruk sound

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Thanks for sharing....Better than


Source:

https://www.thesundaily.my/business/bermaz-...-cx-8-XY1441123

And...
https://www.thesundaily.my/gear-up/2019-all...ilies-JX1440957

This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Oct 2 2019, 09:34 PM

Bermaz, be a sport la....

Dare to challenge HQ and ask for region special, the CX8 2.5L Turbo. Then you see the volume picking up faster.

Since already in cx5, this one almost zero problem as the engine bay is 99% same.

Why :
1) diesel is not our market choice, sini petrol dominate
2) any diesel suv, default look to korean, not easy to fight their value proposition, kia/hyundai play this space almost a decade earlier
3) no mainstream player (toyota/honda/nissan/proton) has a high powered turbocharged mid size suv (and because your cx9 siao expensive, people rather pay for q5/x1/x3/glc even though a smaller)
--> especially appealing to potential CRV customers that feels like the 1.5T is under powered (there will be some volume) but don't want to consider proton X70
4) skyactiv-D engine recommend euro5 diesel; although now more widespread, still not available everywhere. You are limiting your potential in certain areas.
5) your skyactiv-D have DPF, another added maintenance item, hence the requirement of higher quality diesel (related to item 4). Did you seriously educate your customers that bought diesel the quirks of DPF?
--> korean diesel engine no DPF, can hantam euro2 even in ulu areas, no need worry.

That's why 2.5T cx8 will sell better. Bermaz, i showed you the market gap, call me yumcha

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 3 2019, 11:16 AM

100% agreed.
Then it is known that newest mazda will follow the mazda 3 design/spec criteria, ie gvc plus, digital speedometer, android auto etc.

However this cx8 not get 2.5T, did not get digital speedometer, Android auto not sure, gvc plus not sure.

its not considered a full size... its a 5+2/4+2

u r just comparing dimensions lor... nobody does that... there're other aspects to consider too

at cx-8 size, its between santa fe n palisade

I think at the end of the day, the 2 are priced quite closely, so I would also agree that most of ppl will go for CX-8 Diesel instead of Santa Fe.

However I actually think that the Santa Fe or Sorento look better than CX-8. CX-8 is longer, and taller than the Korean duo, but 5cm narrower. In some Australian SUV comparison video actually all the reviewers said CX-8 looks ODD as it has a very skinny look, a bit out of proportions.

Interior space actually CX-8 is not any bigger than Santa / Sorento, because it has a much longer hood up front. But the longer wheelbase aids the ingress and egress for the 3rd row passengers. And it has the walk thru center aisle on the mid spec +. But that one is FWD only

2.2d has been around since 2016 , no issues related to dpf also , just drive like normal car

euro 2 even without dpf is bad for the engine already

Macam targeting Fortuner's customers.

DPF equipped diesel engines are rare in our market, so no one really knows the quirks and do's/don'ts of DPF :
1) If turn off engine during regen, do it too many times, you literally "flood" your crankcase with diesel. Hence there are 2 marks on the dipstick of a diesel engine with DPF. Breached upper limit, means drain everything, replace with new oil.
2) with diesel in the crankcase, the engine oil itself is diluted, meaning the lubrication properties are not optimal, causing added wear to the components.
3) DPF is a maintenance item, once filled up, best is to change the whole DPF, and these costs quite some money.

The only saving grace is that our climate is hot, so the regen can technically be quicker/faster.

So how many people actually knows these quirks? Did bermaz properly educate these buyers on these quirks and tell them what to look out for?

Owning a diesel vehicle with DPF is only optimal for those people that pile on a lot of mileage and accrue savings from the fuel consumption (as we know that diesel fuel consumption on highway cruising is significantly lower compared to petrol counterpart).

Euro2 or euro5 is a non issue with engine longevity. Starex run by transportation companies that ran up few hundred thousand km also runs quite ok on euro2, so if properly designed, really not a problem. But it affects emissions, which to majority of malaysians, something out of their mind frankly (see the amount of litter in our surroundings and our toxic rivers? Yeah, we may personally not be the perpetrator but because of the overall society's sense of awareness of environmental preservation is almost non existence, perpetrators are not treated seriously/condoned/ignored/sometimes celebrated....)

By limiting to only euro5, the market reach becomes constricted. Hence, i say for the bottom line of bermaz, 2.5T will be a better volume driver of cx8.

boss , I'm owner of 2.2d , together in club with 12 others all diesel.

zero issues

How long have you owned the diesel? What's the mileage now?

Heard that it's not as fuel economical if compared to the Beemer's diesel. True?

yes, FC not good as other conti Diesel.
cz mazda opted for low compression diesel engine which give a kinda petrol engine properties, a bit higher rpm vs other diesel, less cluttering sound.
the trade of it is the FC.

other diesel engine put massive compression which give better FC but cw cluttering issues, relatively low rpm range

wait for 150k km.
one cx5 prefacelift 2.5 get a gearbox change due to gb problem. is this due to Mazda malaysia opted for seal for life gb oil, mean no need to change gb oil?
rm23k for gb replacement parts, not including service charge. luckily he get mazda japan warranty after few email.

cx5 fb club

Wait for higher mileage to come, in Taiwan Mazda pull out all diesel models as they encounter big issue there that the car buyers staged protest like those of VW owners in Malaysia. Protest kaw kaw in front of Mazda HQ in Taipei.

Yes, still new. Those that are driving in mostly start stop city urban could likely face issue earlier.

All skyactiv gearbox sama je....

Pandai pandai, latest at year 5, at least request drain and fill transmission fluid. Less than RM200 job. No such thing as lifetime, unless the lifetime is 5 year max, within those lease period of 3-4 years in western markets.

On the side note, a lot of more recent models opt for "sealed lifetime" style, not limited to mazda. So again, pandai pandai....

I read that before issue last year, hopefully the same one you're referring to. The details seemed to relate to engine oil dilution issue, causing sub optimal lubrication and ultimately failing some engines.

Diesel engines with DPF never meant for dense urban environment with lots of start stops, where the DPF can't reach optimal operating temperature. Optimal at long distance cruising. If no DPF, no need worry.

I'm not advocating to remove DPF, because it really works trapping alot of the soot/crap from diesel exhaust fumes. But really, understand how the system works and evaluate against own driving situation. For dense urban driving, please understand the risks, if not get regular petrol.

(ah well, in the near future will have PPF, petrol particulate filters, some new models of european marque already has them in their home markets....)

Hence, again, i stress, those with diesel dpf engines, always check your engine oil dipstick monthly. If reached top most max line, get your engine oil replaced. This is a must basic that i don't know whether bermaz educate their skyactiv diesel customer or not. Don't wait till got dashboard light or error message baru pergi check.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 4 2019, 10:45 AM

Agreed that no gb can survive for seal for live method. Unless the European do design their car to run max until 150k km only? Then good to go. Here 150k km are at 5th to 7th year life of car, with mostly yet to settle for loan.

Btw mazda bermaz prefer to sell the fuel cleaner than any permanent fix. Resolve the GDI carbon deposit by ask customer to pay for fuel additive bottles where technically we know it doesn't work that way.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Oct 4 2019, 02:54 PM

The only method for GDI carbon deposit is to physically clean it out, either brush or walnut shell blasting.

Pretty much all car make with GDI don't offer a physical solution other than you go outside workshop to do. Only VW, quite "pioneering" to offer walnut blasting as an official optional maintenance item in malaysia. Quite worth it for the price, their engine damn leceh to disassemble to reach the intake ports.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 4 2019, 12:06 PM

Do you pile on mileage ?

If only all manufacturers copy the toyota dual port & direct injection type in engine, we consumer no need to spend extra money for this cleaning matters.

somewhat true, but hor, additional cost for at least another set of injectors, fuel pump, fuel pressure sensor and fuel rails. Some more the added complexity of the tune of an additional set of injection cycle, so more $$ demanded from buyers.

malaysians kedekut la....

my record 960km full tank no light yet , average 5.9l/100km

not sure about conti

on road since March 2017

gearbox nothing to do with type.of engine, Mazda bulletin say don't change oil over and over , many ignore gearbox fucked claim mazda
heard this story , never had same issue here at all not even one reported , Taiwan bodo dunno how drive car
mileage 37,000km only , city stop start supposedly guaranteed kill dpf , nothing also , own self scare sendiri

no , 37,000 until today only , city putt around

don't listen my father brother sister uncle second wife daughter stories , hear from owner

This post has been edited by rcracer: Oct 4 2019, 06:02 PM

ok, still nice car to own anyway

Whats the official price on cx8?

Quite good last row space, my wife would be bugging me liao

Pity no 3rd-row a/c vents although the middle row a/c buttons are more atas than CX-5.
To those who want to maximise the seating space, can only get the 7-seater in the lowest specs

https://www.dsf.my/2019/10/mazda-cx-8-leake...ices-presented/

Ford powershift dry clutch was originally intended as seal type....no need to change until reports of gearbox issues started to emerge..then they issued s tsb for oil change requirement


Oh well....time will tell

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...b5ccc875a935a79

Mazda Australia will recall more than 35,000 versions of the Mazda 3, 6 and CX-5 over several issues that could cause engine failure in some circumstances.

All affected models were sold between 2012 and 2018 and are equipped with a diesel engine.


The problems stem from a build-up of carbon deposits and premature wear of certain engine components.

There are wide-ranging symptoms that can affect the vehicle’s performance which can increase the risk of an accident and injury to the driver and other road users.

Some of the issues include a gradual drop in power, multiple dashboard warning lights, increased braking distance, a stalled engine that fails to restart and smoke coming from the engine bay.

The key is they don't have euro 5 diesel prior to November 1, 2016.

Nothing weird for GDI engine which will suffer with carbon deposit problem after long mileage.

Just send workshop for engine cleaning etc.

oh shit, mazda diesel for sale , PM for details

Y r we getting da 2.5l petrol engine ? All other country only gets the 2.2ldiesel turbo charged one. N they r styling way cheaper. I mean which one is better?

This post has been edited by konbawa: Oct 31 2019, 01:28 AM

We got the old speedometer which not equivalent as new design philosophy with new Mazda 3, CX5.

And not even 2.5T as the CX5 for this higher sibling for CX8.

10/10 this car will end up like New Mazda 6, where people will not buy it and become cool car under Bermaz storage

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Oct 31 2019, 02:57 AM

I think i have to agree which u n pass this car too. Though finding hard to get good 7seater suv currently in Malaysia.

Sorento is a good option for a 7-seater SUV.
I did consider and test drive the 2.2D Sorento back in 2017 but finally opted for 2.2D CX-5 as my FIL decided to get a KIA Carnival. So no point having two 7-8 seater SUV/MPV in the porch
The new Santa Fe is a good looking car, but the price is too much to swallow considering it’s cousin the Sorento are tens of thousand RM cheaper

good luck in finding something similar at that kind of price range other than looking for pure MPV.

No other 7 seater suv has a wheelbase of 2.9m+ wheelbase at ~200k....there are just certain things to forgo in ckd to keep price low. Or else, just don't look back/sideways and get the larger sibling cx9.

Still no words on the pricing yet.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovati...13b2c5a7d52fe52

Bad news from Australia

Yes there are/were issues with Mazda Skyactiv Diesels, unfortunately these cars are being sold as 'daily runabouts', salesman says will not have any problems...They are very wrong (I am an ex Mazda Manager).
No 'clean' Diesel Engine car should be used as a suburban runabout as they need long distant use (about 45 minute one way once every week) so the Diesel Particulate Filter deposits can be burnt off.
If car is doing constant short trips you get Oil Level (Dipstick) Rising as Fuel is being dumped past Piston Ring as engine is not getting hot enough.

If you are doing lots of short trips I suggest you manually do a DPF Regeneration of DPFilter do the following....Must park car in well ventilated area with plenty of fuel in tank.

''Within six (6) seconds of starting the engine, press and hold the "TCS OFF" or "DSC OFF" button for 2-5 seconds to start the DPF Regeneration.
The engine idle will raise to 1750 rpm for 15-25 minutes until the DPF Regeneration is completed.
NOTE: Do Not hold the "TCS OFF" or "DSC OFF" button longer than ten (10) seconds or DTC C0089:64 will set. The glow plug indicator on Dash will flash during this manual DPF Regeneration process.''

But Yes, Australia needs a USA 'Lemon Law' that works, relying on ACCC is just too difficult a process.

Read this on the accc website

does doing high rev with short distance have the same effect as with doing normal rev with long distance will help burnt off the deposits?

i was been told that these diesel engines requires some sort of italian tune up once in a while.