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post Feb 17 2019, 11:37 AM, updated 2y ago

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https://www.carlist.my/news/new-mazda-cx-8-previewed/54686/

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post Feb 18 2019, 08:40 AM

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https://i.stuff.co.nz/motoring/104864807/mo...e-new-mazda-cx8

If it is true what is headlined in this Kiwi's review. We have reason to be excited.

"More than 5, less than 9, but close to 6 - the new Mazda CX-8"

No kidding?!

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post Feb 19 2019, 10:12 AM

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https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/suv/142698...st-drive-review

(Almost 1 year ) Old review but still.@ Bangkok Post




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post Feb 19 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Hizami_83 @ Feb 19 2019, 09:01 PM)
I thought the all new santa fe diesel version also will be >rm200k? Actually santa fe diesel previous version also >200k.
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...Yet many unrealistically expecting Kia Sorrento's pricing here
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post Feb 20 2019, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Twins10 @ Feb 20 2019, 08:44 AM)
Buy 2 x70.
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Better buy 3 Aruz.

Willing buyer willing seller mah, 200k can also only buy half of a 2019 Land Rover Range Rover Evoque or Half of a Lexus RX300 or half of a BMW X5.....

Anyway I would think this CX8 petrol version since no AWD and can be stripped down (fabric seats and what not) by BERMAZ have a chance of sub 200k pricing

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post Feb 20 2019, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Feb 20 2019, 09:31 AM)
Ya from the pricing of existing CX-5 (already almost Sorento pricing) my guess is that the CX-8 must add something like at least 30k for the extra 2 seats.  Specs for specs, meaning if a high spec CX-5 petrol 2.5 2WD of RM160k, the CX-8 would at least be 190k.  Still kinda ok as Sorento top spec is about RM178k ish.  Many ppl still prefer Jap than Korean cars.

For me I just went straight and bought myself a Sorento FL 2.2D AWD few mths ago.

If my guess is right, which would mean the CX-8 2.2D AWD would cost at least RM174k + 30k = 205k still below the RM220k many predicted.  Crucially, all CX-8 has no 3rd A/C vents and no MRCC sad.gif
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Good to know, how is the workmanship at inokom kulim? (the same place CX 5 and soon CX8 will be CKD- assembled), I have never own any car roll out from that plant but would like to think they should be good since it is also where BMW , Mini and Land Rover AFAIK also make the 3 and the 5 , x1 , x3 , countryman and defender.


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post Feb 20 2019, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 20 2019, 11:00 AM)
Some korean cars also assembled there.

Workmanship wise (specifically on the cx5), i guess not too bad since very established assembly operations and very experienced. Some more, seems like this assembly site will be the regional assembly hub specifically for cx5 model only.

And among all the brands being assembled, as a singular car brand operations itself, mazda (supposedly) has the largest stake in the assembly plant at 29%. So, by logic, mazda malaysia would pay quite a lot of attention to their products made there.

Another 15% owned by hyundai group korea and the remaining majority slice belongs to sime darby.

http://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mazd...ringboard-asean

As a recent mazda owner myself (not cx5 though), tried out the new cx5 a bit, i can the plant didn't cheap out the product.
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Yeah many Hyundai but not Kia. The latter is done at Naza Auto Mfg (NAM) @GURUN, Kedah whom I must say has been disappointing as far as my Peugeot 408 SKD (also done at NAM) is concern.

Perhaps.it is time I get my self one that roll out from Inokom for a much needed change....BMW , MIni, Mazda or Hyundai?!

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post Feb 20 2019, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Feb 20 2019, 11:18 AM)
My Sorento is quoted as CKD, but many told us it's actually SKD only very few parts were fitted here in Kulim.  So the quality is quite solid, very much like European car not the squeeky Jap cars.
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My last Hyundai (Accent ) has left me a bad taste in my mouth....I am always also worry about the strong Korean won that only makes (some) parts pricey like European even though I believe the Korean has improved in strides these days.

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post Feb 22 2019, 08:33 AM

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https://themalaysianreserve.com/2019/01/30/...-sales-decline/

2018 was a good year where Mazda gain market share and has big jump in sales in Malaysia due to new CX5

Will 2019 conrinue it's strides with CX8?
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post Feb 22 2019, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(nebula87 @ Feb 22 2019, 08:37 AM)
Personally I don't think CX8 can do that.

The new Mazda3 and the upcoming new CX3 will out sell the CX8.
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Mazda saw its volume jumped 66.8% from 9,454 units to 15,765.....BAuto’s success story was largely driven by the new CX-5, which was launched in October 2017 according to the report

I believe big sales numbers comes mostly from SUV then segment C these days. Moreover CX3 is not CKD (while the planned CX8 are) and have to be sourced from Thailand. Historical both 3 and CX3 are selling only so so here in Malaysia. While I am not discounting these two new models' potential, I will bet more in CX8 since it has CKD pricing advantage, it is in a less competitive 7 seater SUV market and potentially stealing some would be premium brand shoppers.

Mazda in 2018 has knock down both BMW and Mercedes in terms of market share according to the same article...

"Mazda strode two steps upwards to the sixth position in market share rank, relegating the country’s leading premium brands Mercedes-Benz and BMW one rank down to the seventh and eighth positions respectively."

I bet CX8 is well positioned to do more of that.
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post Feb 22 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Feb 22 2019, 09:14 AM)
Isnt the suv shape will kill the 3rd row leg space?
Toyota will be happy nobody gonna compete with their velfire and alphard
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SUV leg room of course by default will be more challenging than MPV.

But I don't think that is the market that CX8 intends to after?!
Price point one is from RM362k , another from RM443k, they are not in the same league. (Unless you are talking about the grey imports)

The closest match from Toyota is actually harrier but no third row.
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post Feb 22 2019, 08:29 PM

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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-to-malaysians/

...The Mazda CX-8 will be sold in Malaysia at a price that will be between RM180,000 to RM195,000.....

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post Feb 23 2019, 10:19 AM

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http://www.theborneopost.com/2019/02/23/ma...positive-start/

...AffinHwang Capital noted that most non-national carmakers saw a y-o-y decline in sales volume for 1M19.

However, Mazda was the “star performer” in 1M19, clocking in 1,600 units (up 23.5 per cent y-o-y), thanks to the popular demand for the revamped CX-3 and CX-5.

“We learnt that backlog for Mazda vehicles stood at 2,500 units as at end February 2019.....

That IS the SUV power from Mazda. So far no one come close.
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post Feb 27 2019, 01:32 PM

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https://www.carlist.my/news/not-gona-be-che...mw-level/54846/


HOLY COW . New Mazda 3 sold at BMW 3 series pricing. News from down under.



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post Feb 27 2019, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 27 2019, 02:15 PM)
fuh....siao liao....

better buy 2nd hand iif that's the case....

Suddenly feel korean cars even more value for money in the future....
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I am just curious if this is something that Mazda will follow suit in Malaysia, may be not almost up to bimmer's pricing but 17-22% price up

Mazda 3 must be damn good to make Mazda asking such premium pricing from its predecessor.

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Feb 27 2019, 05:03 PM)
For local market mindset, as long as not BMW/Audi/Mercedes, all else not considered premium brand = not worth to pay the premium.

The mazda 6 is the most telling history. When initially launched, the pricing is a slight premium, but the competitors offering weren't attractive, so buyers willing to pay. But after that, when new models/refreshes comes in, the mazda6's sales slowed down pretty much (from what i observed in my area, other places could be opposite of what i'm observing). The facelift did add quite some added "premium-ness", but still ain't moving much.

And to add salt to injury, the market trend is now on the craze of SUVs. If the new platform applied starting from the cx5, then maybe got hope that people can still find some attraction. But on the sedan, it will be really really hard.

Mazda may want to play the market between normal mainline brands and premium market. Could be a smart move, but i'm not optimistic it can turn out well in our market. But toyota also start playing with this space starting with the chr and the new camry, so eventually the market may get used to it.

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I may be wrong but I thought Mazda 6 did Not sell well because it being CBU, pricing wise, it would have lost by default?

Don't think Malaysian are overall keen with CBU, to pay more premium since it is fully imported is one thing but to pay high import duty is altogether another big no no for many.

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post Mar 1 2019, 04:34 PM

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https://www.cars.com/articles/mazda-hints-a...-1420757482468/

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post Oct 1 2019, 03:40 PM

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Finally....Open for booking ; 15% to 20% more costlier than CX5....Meaning price is reaching RM200k level.180k to 195 OTR before insurance ?

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post Oct 2 2019, 07:51 AM

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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/chai...tsyear-malaysia

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Chairman: Bermaz to sell 2,000 Mazda CX-8 units/year in Malaysia
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October 01, 2019 17:25 pm +08

KULIM (Oct 1): Bermaz Auto Bhd, the sole distributor of Mazda vehicles in Malaysia, is targeting to sell at least 2,000 units of the newly-launched CX-8 sport utility vehicle (SUV) a year in the country.

According to Bermaz executive chairman Datuk Seri Ben Yeoh Choon San, the locally-assembled CX-8 is an extension of the CX-5 segment.

“We are looking to sell around 2,000 units (of CX-8) per annum, which will make it viable to us. Of course, it all depends on price approval from the government.

“Our prices will be competitive, because the CX-8 is a locally-produced family SUV. Our target customers are those little matured families,” he told reporters after the rollout of the CX-8 at the Mazda Malaysia Assembly Plant here today.

According to Bermaz, the CX-8, which is open for booking, will come in six colours: soul red crystal, machine grey, snowflake white pearl, deep crystal blue, sonic silver and jet black.

Official pricing of the CX-8 will be announced in a couple of weeks, the company said.

Bermaz CEO Datuk Francis Lee Kok Chuan, however, has a more ambitious target.

“I think Datuk Seri Ben is being conservative. Personally, I am looking at 2,500 to 3,000 units, that’s my target,” Lee told theedgemarkets.com on the sidelines of the CX-8 rollout event.

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post Oct 2 2019, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Oct 2 2019, 03:45 PM)
Got from someone in my whatsapp group, holy moly  blink.gif

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Dear all, Mazda CX-8 indicative vehicle price :

Estimated available early of Quarter 4 2019

1, CX-8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+3+2, No Leather Seat) Est RM 177,000

2, CX-8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+2+2, No Leather Seat, Walk Through) Est RM 182,000

3, CX- 8 2.5L Skyactiv 2WD (2+2+2, Leather Seat, Center Console) Est RM 197,000

4, CX- 8 2.2L Skyactiv-D AWD (2+2+2, Leather Seat, Center Console) Est RM 222,000

It’s open for booking now, please feel free to contact me for booking if you are interested. Thank you

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Industry insiders are speculating a price range of RM180,000 to RM250,000.


Source:

https://www.thesundaily.my/business/bermaz-...-cx-8-XY1441123

And...
https://www.thesundaily.my/gear-up/2019-all...ilies-JX1440957

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