amd quite tahan lasak....

i rather take current board..
at least max shared memory is 512mb..
and again better gpu with HDMI support.. those thing should cost a little bit more right.. but the thing is.. i got below 300..and that's a few month ago..
if only got IEEE.. it would be a perfect budget board..

can tell me good intel mobo for the same price range?
at least i can try Ocing budget intel platform...

can you please back up you claim with at least a copiedPasted article or personal experience? If not this is just a useless spam which you just posted because you heard/read rumours from the internet/friend and you don't even know if it's real or not and just wasting our time

what he said...LOL

for budget line of dual core proc, AMD is losing now.

then.. considering good budget intel mobo.. no budget line anymore..
tell me which budget board is good for oc... i want to try...

non overclockers and super budget ppl, AMD is the right choice.

you are right.this is because not every people want to overclock/they also donno how to overclock i dont think so because x2 can get below 200 i think for the proc

Non overclocking and typical ppl also don't need dual cores or 64 bit processors. Thus there is not much advantage in using X2 when the difference is negligeble. Heck, in some cases dual core can be slower for these kind of ppls. go figure....

dun wan overclock? actually for a same price of e2160, even run it at stock, it can beat stock X2 3800 in most cases. Dual core proc is getting more and more useful, if u want a perfect vista running, dual core is nothing but really recommended. Lots of hidden services, the sidebar for eg, will consume significant cpu time every few seconds

The e2160 is more expensive than X2 3800 for budget proccessor, it is not fair to compare like tat

ok.. then compare with x2 4200 or 4000 then... but Intel still has the chance...

yaya.. If budget dual core processor, then i think may be can compare E2140 with x2 3800 .

using amd for 10 yrs... cheap and tahan lasak bile suhu bilik panas......

O rilli?
Thanx for sharing your personal experience there, you have anything else more constructive to say? If no then you may now proceed back to mars. Thank you.

Btw, 10 years you've been on AMD? Wat rig are you using now, i'm interested.

Cheap and tahan lasak bile suhu bilik panas, maksud hang AMD tak tahan kalu bilik ada air cond ngan tak panas lar?

Ok enough of those OT talk, back to the topic.

Since the E2160 is priced around RM300, i suppose the most proper rival for it in a head to head clash will be the X2 4000+. I will have to agree that Intel will lead all the way in benchies if both procs are running on stock. But comparing a procesor which was launched almost a year back with a newly launched proc is still a litle unfair isn't it.

Anyhow, my conclusion is still that Intel is seriously cutting into AMDs budget line market share. If AMD were to regain their advantage in the budget/entry level market, something serious will need to come out from the Kumas.

For both the procs, each has their own advantages. The AMDs still run on less power compared to Intels. So maybe this will be an attraction for those HTPC builders or maybe Silent PC builders who will seek to underclock their Processors to the most efficient power consumption to performance ratio.

lead on benchies is the key word.

actual usage - can't feel.

Depends on the gadget. The original RAM/Proc meter gauge that comes with the sidebar is the usual culprit. Replace it with a third party one and you'll find out that the cpu surge every second or so will be gone

One thing for sure, more people knows Intel more than AMD. Intel's advertising is everywhere while AMD ones are lacking. Try to ask those people that do not know much about PC Hardwares and when they wanted to get a new rig, they will ask for Intel straight away.

I tried checking with my dad before about building a PC and he insist getting Intel. When i told him about AMD, he was like blurred on how trustable the brand is due to the lack of advertising available.

Anyway, in general comparison and normal usage, i really doubt anyone can feel major difference between the low end models like X2 3600 with E2140. Benchmarking wise, ok, there are differences. Other than that, i felt that it is negligible. For budget concise people who do not have any extra to spend (aka, its RM250 FIRM on a proc), getting an AMD is not a bad idea anyway. Somehow, its better than what you think and the difference between both C2D and X2 is almost unoticeable.

What makes people worried is that when they ask, people will say, go C2D. They are better. How much better is not mention in any sort of way and people would start having an assumption of C2D is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY better than X2 in cases.

Else, if your budget are expendable, going C2D aint bad either. In a case IF you decided to learn about OCing in the future, its a good choice of having a proc that are ready to do the job very well indeed. Anyhow, it is not good bashing AMD with those crucial statements. Wait till AMD regain their crown and people will bash Intel again. With current price war, consider yourself ready for a good purchase of any procs available around...

im c a thread on web say that AMD will flash price on 9/7/07 ...its it true...???

slash la. not flash. just donno when.