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The_YongGrand
post Jun 28 2007, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Jun 27 2007, 10:05 AM)
One thing for sure, more people knows Intel more than AMD. Intel's advertising is everywhere while AMD ones are lacking. Try to ask those people that do not know much about PC Hardwares and when they wanted to get a new rig, they will ask for Intel straight away.

I tried checking with my dad before about building a PC and he insist getting Intel. When i told him about AMD, he was like blurred on how trustable the brand is due to the lack of advertising available.

Anyway, in general comparison and normal usage, i really doubt anyone can feel major difference between the low end models like X2 3600 with E2140. Benchmarking wise, ok, there are differences. Other than that, i felt that it is negligible. For budget concise people who do not have any extra to spend (aka, its RM250 FIRM on a proc), getting an AMD is not a bad idea anyway. Somehow, its better than what you think and the difference between both C2D and X2 is almost unoticeable.

What makes people worried is that when they ask, people will say, go C2D. They are better. How much better is not mention in any sort of way and people would start having an assumption of C2D is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY better than X2 in cases.

Else, if your budget are expendable, going C2D aint bad either. In a case IF you decided to learn about OCing in the future, its a good choice of having a proc that are ready to do the job very well indeed. Anyhow, it is not good bashing AMD with those crucial statements. Wait till AMD regain their crown and people will bash Intel again. With current price war, consider yourself ready for a good purchase of any procs available around...
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Fantastic reply. That's a very matured one. The advertising matters most. Like Pepsi vs Coca-Cola, M-16 vs AK-47, which car vs which car and the stuff like that. smile.gif

I found new Celerons (4xx) series and they are very superb! 800MHz FSB, 512K cache and also using Core's architectures. Maybe it'll really beat up the fastest S.478 P4 and even the Prescotts. smile.gif
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post Jun 28 2007, 01:19 PM

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Well said, I was also quite suprised at the celeron too. I was building a budget PC for my sis and used the Celeron 3.06GHz (D346). and it was faster than my old P4 2.4 that I left at home by a mile, considering that I reformatted and reinstalled both with a new OS at the same time, and both are using 1GB RAM. And I still prefer to work with the Intel's HSF, having owned many AMD proc in the past, i still have nightmares when dealing with their HSF. At least the AM2 was an inprovement in design, but the Intel's one are still easier to install, ecspecially if you're new to making your own PC.
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post Jun 28 2007, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Jun 28 2007, 01:19 PM)
Well said, I was also quite suprised at the celeron too. I was building a budget PC for my sis and used the Celeron 3.06GHz (D346). and it was faster than my old P4 2.4 that I left at home by a mile, considering that I reformatted and reinstalled both with a new OS at the same time, and both are using 1GB RAM. And I still prefer to work with the Intel's HSF, having owned many AMD proc in the past, i still have nightmares when dealing with their HSF. At least the AM2 was an inprovement in design, but the Intel's one are still easier to install, ecspecially if you're new to making your own PC.
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The Celeron D with 512K cache are magnificient - and they overclock very well too. I had a C.D 347, and push it until to 3.8GHz and the performance difference is almost 25% more! But I pushed it down to the stock speeds because the fan is getting very noisy. smile.gif

You gotta see the new Celeron D 420, 430 and 440. Can kill any single core Athlon 64 without a hitch. They could have maybe 35W TDP and even Speedstep (can someone confirm this??), and the Core microarchitecture. I'm not sure whether it'll even outperform Prescott P4... but maybe. Who knows? These are based on Core architecutres. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Jun 27 2007, 02:58 PM)
im c a thread on web say that AMD will flash price on 9/7/07 ...its it true...???
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oh.. is it? AMD slash price before intel?
It is possible.
This is the only tactic AMD can do now.

K10 , when u come out sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Jun 28 2007, 02:44 PM

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think of last 2-4 years ago. The era of Intel Netburst vs AMD K7 and K8, many others will recommend AMD that time, whereby a cheaper athlon 64 3000 will beat the crap out of Prescott/Northwood P4 3GHz. Now the situation is just rotating to favor Intel.

In the early days, Intel won by jamming up clock speed, while AMD realizes the limitations of GHz way earlier than Intel.
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post Jun 28 2007, 03:08 PM

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Talking about budget CPU "wars", this news is kinda "old" - Intel E2140 CPUs all snatched up in Hong Kong - CommunicAsia 2007 News Coverage Singapore @ my.ocworkbench.com
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According to our HK news correspondent, the Intel E2140 CPU priced around 600HKD ~ 700HKD is all sold out at major shops at shopping complexes e.g. Sham Shui Po.

This CPU, as we reported earlier, is the lowest end Core 2 Duo processors targetting the AMD X2 3600+ processor. The processor is supposed to outperform the X2 3600+ 1.9GHz 65nm priced at HKD 539.
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post Jun 28 2007, 04:12 PM

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but right now.. 3600+ price reduced...
the thing is who want to buy single core amd since the price quite same..
better for us then.. X2 price drop.. can get X4 cheaper..
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post Jun 28 2007, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jun 28 2007, 04:12 PM)
but right now.. 3600+ price reduced...
the thing is who want to buy single core amd since the price quite same..
better for us then.. X2 price drop.. can get X4 cheaper..
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Well, from this time onwards, i dont think Dual Core CPUs are regarded as high end processors anymore as compared to last time. Dual Core now are becoming too common in today's technology and Quad Core had become what Dual Core is last time..LOL..Time to forget about those single core because technology always improve...

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