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will amd lose to intel in the budget proccessor?
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FCUK89
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 Jun 21 2007, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jun 21 2007, 10:15 AM) Wondering something here.. If i decided to let go of my current rig (Socket 939), would it be a wise decision to go with C2D or maybe just wait more till those Quad Processors stabilize and get them? DDR3 seems like a long way to go for me.. Yeah, that is what I'm wondering also..I was thinking of getting a new rig this coming september, but then, should i wait longer? If they just release the new proc, wouldn't the price be quite high, and I have to wait longer somemore? |
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SlayerXT
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Jun 21 2007, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(akachester @ Jun 21 2007, 10:15 AM) Wondering something here.. If i decided to let go of my current rig (Socket 939), would it be a wise decision to go with C2D or maybe just wait more till those Quad Processors stabilize and get them? DDR3 seems like a long way to go for me.. How about wait for Phenom X2 or Agena FX? Then if AMD still disappointing us just take penryn.  |
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FCUK89
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Jun 21 2007, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Jun 21 2007, 10:19 AM) How about wait for Phenom X2 or Agena FX? Then if AMD still disappointing us just take penryn. But how long will that be? Those are quad cores or ??? |
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cinbao
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Jun 21 2007, 11:05 AM
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Shit !!! the quad-core war has come ... What diiferent with the socket AM2 and AM2+ ? somemore what da head was socket 1207+ ?
Do it with Hyper Transport Technology ( HTT ) 3.0 ?
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Faint
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Jun 21 2007, 11:19 AM
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Socket AM2 and socket 1207 are for current AMD X2, Athlon 64, Sempron, FX and Quad-FX. While AM2+ is and socket 1207+ are for upcoming AMD new processor.
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cinbao
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Jun 21 2007, 12:21 PM
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Saw this post from the link of Brother Faint that meaningful to consumer like us, I think we need this conception in mind as well ... Source : http://www.dailytech.com/Final+AMD+Stars+M...ghardware.co.ukQUOTE Question:
Without competition you will be paying 2 grand for high end cpu's and 1k plus for video cards in very very short order.
1)Yes competition is essential for higher quality products & lower prices.
2)For us the buyers we need an a market, where the market share of the 2 companies should be-(Intel)70% (Amd)30%.
In such conditions the buyer always stands to gain to enable you get higher quality products & lower prices.
3)EXCESS of competition & LACK of competition is BAD for us-we the buyers, the ULTIMATE DECIDERS of market share for these companies should maintain the above RATIO !(70 to 30).
4)Higher quality products & lower prices is an incentive or motivator for buyers/users/consumers to UPGRADE.
5)The lack of incentives to upgrade, means people simply dont upgrade-thats all ! they prefer to make do with what they have & wait for prices to drop.
6) Example for the above is VISTA !
People are just not motivated to upgrade & prefer to make do with XP & prefer to wait.They simple DONT BUY !
But let there be Apples O.S. "X" (tiger/leopard) up for sale
without the Apple hardware-Then watch !
If Apple sell its O.S. like M.S.-then see what happens-
YOU will see real WAR-Intel/Amd style.
We will get higher quality & lower prices !
7)Just remember-People are not that stupid-If the prices are HIGH they simply DONT BUY.So Intel can charge in your scenario "2G" & Nvidia "1K"- result-NO BUYERS !
I am sure there are millions out there who say this-
"I can live without a 8800 series card-Whats the hurry"
So Nvidia can charge what it wants-NO BUYERS !
Summary-WE the buyers decide the FATE of Intel & Nvidia !
They need US more than WE DO !
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SUSdattebayo
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Jun 21 2007, 12:40 PM
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socket 1207 is yet another new socket?
isnt AM2/2+/3 still using 940 pins and share the same layout?
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8tvt
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Jun 21 2007, 12:56 PM
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socket 1207 = socket F for server...
maybe 1207+..
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taxidoor
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Jun 21 2007, 01:06 PM
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lol again lor = = time to chagne board? 939>AM2>AM2+ = =""
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SUSdattebayo
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Jun 21 2007, 01:11 PM
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AM2 board will still can be used for some years to come I think its not wise to spend on AM2+ mobo, just some minor add-ons and still no DDR3 support  This post has been edited by dattebayo: Jun 21 2007, 01:12 PM |
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akachester
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Jun 21 2007, 02:12 PM
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Anyone cared to enlighten me about this AMD X2 BE-2350? http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/18/amd...rike/page2.htmlAre they new version of processors or just an energy efficient version of the X2? |
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chriswoo
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Jun 21 2007, 06:55 PM
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Getting Started
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duno if ddr 3 out in the market then all hell break lose with intell and nvidia card going for ddr4
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mdzaboy
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Jun 21 2007, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Faint @ Jun 21 2007, 03:43 PM) Nice sumarry cinbao  Socket 1207 is not a new socket, this socket was use for AMD Quad-FX processor. Socket 1207+ is for the upcoming Agena FX, this two type of socket are for server use. If I'm not mistaken, AM2+ mobo can use AM2 processor but AM2 mobo can't use AM2+ processor and AM2+ mobo still haven can support DDR3 yet. eh..i tot AM2 can support AM2+..?? what i know is AM2+ cannot support AM2(correct me if im wrong..) |
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Faint
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Jun 22 2007, 01:44 AM
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Sorry guys, I want make correction for my replied. AM2 can use AM2+, but cannot fully run all the feature of AM2+. In another way, AM2+ can run AM2 without problem.  QUOTE Socket AM2+ processors can be installed in socket AM 2 motherboard . User in this case will loose the support Of hyper-Transport 3.0 and also the more flexible power control Source from XtrerviewThis post has been edited by Faint: Jun 22 2007, 01:44 AM |
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cks2k2
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Jun 22 2007, 02:02 AM
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QUOTE(Faint @ Jun 22 2007, 01:44 AM) Sorry guys, I want make correction for my replied. AM2 can use AM2+, but cannot fully run all the feature of AM2+. In another way, AM2+ can run AM2 without problem. Source from XtrerviewAM2+ is HT3. You can plug-in an AM2+ chip into an AM2 socket but lose HT3 functionality. Also mobos on AM2+ have a split voltage plane: one for the IMC and one for the cores itself. AM2 mobos will have single shared voltage plane. Theoretically this should allow lower power consumption and better o/c control. |
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jtcs87
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Jun 23 2007, 08:46 AM
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Wat kind of benifits for the AM2+?
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edwin3210
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Jun 23 2007, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Jun 21 2007, 01:11 PM) AM2 board will still can be used for some years to come I think its not wise to spend on AM2+ mobo, just some minor add-ons and still no DDR3 support it will be a different matter if u want that super cool feature called "split-power-plane" and HT3.0. HT3.0 will b important if u use the board with X4, since X4 will be very bandwidth hungry (esp if certain application use all 4 cores together). anyway, lower end of Agena will b interesting for overclockers, but sadly the lowest one will b 2.2GHz. if there's a one with 1.9Ghz and lower price, it will b a kick a$$ for budget and overclockers freak  |
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taxidoor
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Jun 23 2007, 10:29 AM
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to who want to play dual core 1st when got exra money want change quad core = = have to change board...
hope amd price is enough to VS intel.. if not all go to intel Q6600
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