Just checked the specifications, and also checked the back of my Tx3 mini box.

Tx3 Mini has
AV Port : AV(3 in 1) port (which uses 3.5mm and the one I tested and mentioned in my earlier post)
SPDIF: Coaxial(Optical). I believe this uses Toslink

https://shopee.com.my/TX3-Mini-Android-7.1-...2295.1428348152


TX3 S905X3
Doesn't seem to have the AV port anymore.
Only SPDIF: Coaxial(Optical).

https://shopee.com.my/TX3-Android9.0-TV-Box...2295.4608625088

I am not familiar with coax toslink audio connection. Best you ask the seller about their product. Correct me if I am wrong, I believe you are looking for a SPDIF coax to RCA converter to hook the tv box to an old hifi system.

I had a look at the Tx3 S905X3 picture, and the SPDIF connection port don't look like the Tx3 mini SPDIF port. So, best to ask the seller. Or wait for others to post their actual box SPDIF connection.

This post has been edited by password8431: May 17 2020, 11:30 PM

Mini-TOSLINK
A mini-TOSLINK adapter

Mini-TOSLINK is a standardized optical fiber connector smaller than the standard square TOSLINK connector commonly used in larger consumer audio equipment. The plug is almost the same size and shape as the ubiquitous 3.5 mm stereo minijack. Adapters are available to connect a full-size TOSLINK plug to a mini-TOSLINK socket. Combined 3.5 mm jack and mini-TOSLINK sockets exist which can accept a 3.5 mm jack or a mini-TOSLINK plug; mini-TOSLINK plugs are made 0.5 mm longer than electrical jack plugs so that the latter are too short to touch and damage the LED of combined connectors. Many laptop computer and portable digital audio equipment models, such as the Google Chromecast Audio device[8][9] and Apple AirPort Express and iPod Hi-Fi, use these connectors that allow for the insertion of 3.5 mm analog (electrical) headphone output or microphone input or mini-TOSLINK digital (optical) output.

WIki Source

So have to check with seller if the Mini-Toslink is just Fibre digital optical or allows 3.5 mm analog as well.

This post has been edited by password8431: May 19 2020, 01:29 AM

coax digital could mean Optical Fibre which would be DIGITAL.

If indeed it is the cable shown in the pict, that would still categorically be Analog Signal and not digital, right?

More likely the word Coaxial has put us off, as usually that would mean coax inteference protection screening cable sheath.

In this instance, could very well be a Fibre Mini Toslink using a Cable which is coined as "Coaxial digital". I have no idea, I don't have a Tx3 S905X3 to check. Best to ask the sellers to give item link to the cable which can be connected to the so called SPDIF/AV 3.5mm hole.

Here are the comments that is relevant to getting the old Unifi Play TV to work. I have been reading in other thread, that it is impossible to get the New Unifi TV plus Box APK to work in OTT Tvboxes. Latest modified Unifi TV by pendekar7 only seem to work well on Android TV OS instead of Android Mobile OS.

I guess it will be some time, before a kind soul mod the new UnifiTV apk for OTT boxes.


This post has been edited by password8431: May 29 2020, 03:17 PM

Some questions first to ask of you.

Is this a new Tx3 Mini? And you have this issue ever since.

Stock Remote as in the Infra Red Remote Control?

Those remote that works with a usb dongle cannot awaken my Tx3 mini Android 7 but can for other boxes running Android 8. However my this other box has problem turning on from shutdown. It can only turn on with power switch Off then back On.

In your case, it could be a faulty remote power button or weak batteries. Since mine is not Android 8, best you consult the seller if it is brand new box.

Possible HDMI related issue is very plausible for your case. Have you got some HDMI splitter or HDMI switch connected anywhere in ANY OF THE HDMI ports of your TV. Check your HDMI CEC setting and your TV HDMI CEC setting. Isolate the TV and begin testing to find the cause.

The problem of unable to bring the Tx3 out from sleep is the first for me. I have seen reverse problem of box unable to sleep - and usually this is caused by the USB air mouse cursor moving right after trying to put the box into sleep.

The closest possible solution if there is a software bug, is the Power Key Definition setting.
There is a Power Key Definiaton setting, but it is purely for activate Sleep, Shutdown or Restart. Once in sleep, the power key of the IR remote should and only bring the Tx3 back up immediately. Albeit it doesn't seem to address your issue, it is good to change the settings around and see if your problem persists.

If all else fails and you can't pinpoint the problem, then factory reset is the last option.
If still cannot, then buy a new IR remote.
If still cannot, then box problem.

Back button on the Remote replicated with the Right Mouse Button Key.

Another button on the IR remote that is not available on the USB remote is the Settings Button.
This can only be replicated with Ctrl+Esc

It is good you opened with a statement you are buying your first TV box.
That is because from the proceeding questions and your understanding of TV boxes - others will be very reluctant to offer assitance.
I also hesitated a bit because you don't seem to understand the two types of TV boxes, as I also read you are considering LongTV in another post.

I will try to explain as short and concise as possible.

Buying Tx3 or Tx6, you are merely buying the hardware. The software (app) required to watch the stuff you require is available freely.
TVB drama - No issue of buffering majorly, and lots of free apps offer them. 720p mostly, 1080p also available depending on app.
Malaysia Free to View Channels - also no issue, a few ways to get it. Buffering not much, but availability depends on other factors.Also can use Unifi Play TV to get this. No 1080p as far as I know for these sources.

Tx3 vs Tx6 difference
- different processor (Tx3 has better, stable processor and cooler box)
- Tx6 has wifi Antenna (good if you can't connect via LAN cable, or your surroundings has a lot of neighbour WIFI routers)

Both Tx3 or Tx6 are popular. Be aware, Tx6 doesn't have root switch if you want to use AstroGo.
My recommendation is Tx3 if can connect LAN cable, Tx6 if you have lots of wifi interference.
Get Tx3 if you promarily want AstroGo. Tx6 will need to unroot manually (see if seller can help)

as for LONGTV, this is a diffferent beast altogether. You cannot compare LongTV against Tx3 or Tx6.
With LongTV, you are not just buying the hardware - but also hidden in the sale is an understanding that you will also get to install special apps later that will allow you to watch copyright stuff. Normally no buffering issue with them unless it is EPL night.

If you wish to compare then a better way to compare is
Long TV versus Tx3 + Subscription to black market lifetime IPTV (which we shall not discuss)


another way to compare is LongTV versus other boxes that similar to it in terms of offerings.
EV***, UnB****, and a number of other boxes that just recently introduced into Malaysia market.

A long time ago, about 3-5 years, senior peers would not recommend these boxes. Our recommendation has always been to avoid them. Just buy the hardware, and subscribe to short term packages. Nowadays they changed tune seeing that some of these company selling them is still around, their recommendation is consider those with at least 3 years history in the market already. Again, the risk is all yours.

Addendum :- Sorry, you are not considering LongTV but EVpad for RM349. They are same type and category of boxes. Difference between them you would have to ask others who has experience using them both. There are subtle differences to which only frequent users will notice.

Edit :- clarify that the lifetime tv box is not pretty lasting, but the company that sells them are still around after some years.

This post has been edited by password8431: Jun 14 2020, 03:48 PM

If you worried of getting scammed, then avoid buying in Facebook.
Especially those sponsored posts,

Sellers can check first few pages in this thread.

Since you are new to this, it is best if you can speak with the different Shopee sellers - asks lots of questions and follow your heart after reading previous customers review.

The Viu app required, you really need to ask sellers about their box. As far as I know, there is no issue installing it from Playstore, but I have read others asking the same question a few times.

If those are the only 3 requirements, then EVpad is Overkill.
People buy EVpad for a lot more features, but more importantly for convenience sake.

If the box is for your mom, then it would be wise to opt for one that is easier to use and navigate the apps. The learning curve may not be much for technical person or youngster, but can be quite steep for older folks to learn to use.

This post has been edited by password8431: Jun 14 2020, 01:14 PM

Had you asked the question 2-3 months back, then Mibox S is ideal for you. It has Google Certification to give you FHD/4K Netflix with your 4K TV. It can also run official AstroGo app while you decide on your Astro account termination.

Sadly, today Mibox S has teething problem using AstroGo app. So if Netflix is your primary concern, then Mibox S is your choice provided you have a Netflix account.

My worries is that you think you are getting Netflix after the seller told you the box comes preinstall with a lot of Netflix movies & shows and you think you are buying the hardware with a Netflix account to use the Netflix app. Nope, it is not.

Tx6 4/32 should be in the RM150 region if buying from overseas. It is equally popular among Malaysian along with Tx3mini or Tx3. Read my few previous post in this thread comparing both these two.

Why these two Boxes are popular is because they can run official AstroGo app (Tx6 require manual unroot to use AstroGo). They can use Mobile version Netflix and give you max 540p quality pictures.

I think your 4K TV doesn't have Netflix installed. So make your choice wisely.

Quick fix
Play from Start, and navigate to where last stopped.

If only Sound Sync, a quick fix
Rewind back 15s

At least that is for my case. Hope it helps.

If I understand your questions correctly, you are asking what's the difference between the preinstall apps in generic boxes versus Mibox sold by sellers who open up the sealed box to install apps. You also queried difference between sealed and not sealed miboxS box.

Your raise such worries because your Tx3 uses old Netflix version which requires sideload install whilst miboxS can update directly from Playstore.

Am I correct thus far?

Back to your original questions first.
Mibox S seller unbox to install apps. These apps are not available in Playstore. So no difference buying Tx3 or MiboxS based on this, as sideloaded apps don't auto update from Playstore. Unless you are particular of Android TV OS and Android Mobile OS. Furthermore most of these sideload apps are meant for Android mobile OS. In most cases, air mouse or just wireless mouse is required to navigate for these apps. So it defeats the purpose of MiboxS with its voice remote specifically for Android TV .

Difference MiboxS sealed and unsealed with preinstall?
No difference, those apps don't auto update from Playstore. See what seller install and preset for you. Some install cracked premium version, so for sure these apps don't update automatically from Playstore.

Plug and Play?
Depends on how you define PnP.
Mibox S is easy to learn even for the technically challenged ppl, but it is not PnP box in my definition.
PnP box in my definition are those illegal IPTV boxes like EV***, LongTV, UnB****, SV* C****, and a few more.

Buy for Relative recommendation!
Here is a very simple guide
1. Old folks or Ppl without IT know how - Illegal PnP boxes or Astro
2. Ppl who can use Android phone - MiboxS
3. Ppl who can tinker around, read a bit, or watch YouTube - Can recommend a cheap Tx3 to get a feel of what Android box can do as their first box.

Netflix!
If Netflix is top priority, as you already have existing account or intent on getting one - then Mibox S all the way. No need to look elsewhere. Or wait for the new Mibox Stick , around RM210. 4K version much more expensive than MiboxS. Netflix version, I have no idea. I don't use this app.

Illegal IPTV? Period based or Lifetime.
Here is where I get a bit upset. It is because if this is the route you are primarily considering - then all the above I have written is for nought. What boxes to get to go with these illegal services? No definitive answer, as it depends how you see your investment. Can buy better boxes so last longer ( maybe 5 years or more with your lifetime IPTV). Another way to look at it is get cheap one to use with period packages as usually these packages including the lifetime ones allow leeway to move your subscription to another device if the first is broken. And 99% of these IPTV doesn't require air mouse to navigate and they are easy to learn to use. Some boxes can even Auto-run the IPTV app upon startup. So the whole setup is very simple and easy to master.

It is a tough choice, so many things to consider for you. Hope I provided enough information for you to make an informed decision. Otherwise, best is to consult sellers. Problem is some sellers not willing to explain much.

I can't make the decision for you.
If it was me, I also have to consider Mibox limited hardware capabilities.
Then consider AstroGo.

Otherwise all else almost same except for OS, Chromecast feasibility. voice remote also possible with Tx3 but require proper voice remote, the integration with Google Assistant is not polish like MiboxS. In Mibox only the sideloaded apps have to do something to find them in the box if they are purely Android mobile app. You best to consult others in Mibox thread regarding missing apps.

So as you see Not really PnP for MiboxS in my books. That is why some seller offer to unbox and set up the Mibox as PnP for a markup in price.

This post has been edited by password8431: Jun 24 2020, 11:30 AM

In the old Tx3 mini Android 7, it has no Bluetooth feature. I believe the hardware is not activated by the Android 7 firmware even though it is there in the box. Tx3 max which is exactly the same as Tx3mini has this Bluetooth feature.

I think when AVFAN booted the Tx3mini with Tx3 max firmware, the Bluetooth appeared.

From what I know, Tx3mini Android 8 firmware has Bluetooth though it is best you confirm with seller.

I kinda stumble on to this Bluetooth in my Tx3mini Android 7 myself.
I activated it's internal Bluetooth with an old USB Bluetooth dongle. Then in settings, I search "Bluetooth" and the Bluetooth On/Off settings appears. Now I have a Tx3mini with Bluetooth, although it is bit of a hassle to turn off or on .

I don't know what is given, but I figured mostly will be the same

https://pictr.com/image/7io2xB

The apps listed comprises a few legendary apps, and a mixture of apps that appeared 2-3 months ago and some recent apps.

I didn't test them, merely recognised the names of apps shared extensively on various platforms.

Usually once the free stuff gets too popular, then the free services ends. Other case is that the person behind the app has moved on with life and stopped updating the apps. Free IPTV is always available, merely require someone dedicated 24/7 to keep their app updated.

As for useability of apps, I think you are referring to controlling and navigation within the apps.

Two years ago, most if not all of these free stuff originated from mobile Android with touch screen navigation. No touch screen, then a mouse will suffice. The apps were not designed for TVbox and using the IR remote with direction pad. Even though, the manufacturer include option to activate mouse cursor with the IR remote, it was always best to use a wireless mouse, airmouse or wireless touch pad.

Those apps that works well without need for mouse cursor are those adapted to Android TV OS in the early days. Kodi being one of many.

Progressively, paid IPTV apps embraced this.

Presently, not just paid apps but a lot of free apps can navigate without the need for mouse cursor. And only recently AstroGo released a beta version that is adapted to directional pad navigation.

As for the apps, if one is not too fussy and doesn't have high expectations for free stuff - then I am pretty sure a few apps collectively will satisfy you. Then there is a question of the apps stability and longevity.

Otherwise, after finding the free stuff isn't up to your expectations, and insists on Astro and Netflix like services - then the next option is to considere paid IPTV. By then if you are still not satisfied, most likely you will already found out various solutions and options and become a TVbox expert yourself :-p . Then you can move on to high end TV boxes.

This post has been edited by password8431: Aug 7 2020, 11:22 PM

Latest hypptv app as in the Unifi PlayTV in Play store that has a Fireball Football on its picture?

You have Unifi account? Or intend to create monthly accounts to enjoy free 1 month Premium usage?

Recently, I received a message on the old official Unifi Playtv app on my mobile indicating, my free to use account is eligible to use the latest app (fireball football). I reckon every one should already migrated to new app. The old official app no longer works and would refer to use the new app on my in phone.

I don't use use Unifi PlayTV much in my Tx3mini. It still works with the old modded app. I will be able to offer help if you can furnish me with more information of your needs. Intend to testout the new app.

At the moment, it seems you priority is Unifi PlayTV, YouTube and later venture to Kodi. There are pros and cons of the 3 boxes you mentioned, budget, software, hardware requirements and ease of use.

Lastly, what are the problems you see arising mentioned in your post? Is it related to migration and app usage rather than box compatibility?

This post has been edited by password8431: Aug 17 2020, 07:19 PM

Downloaded the latest ver1.3.5 from Playstore within Tx3 mini. And it runs well with my free account with only the few live TV channels. Only small issue of selecting the Favourite channels from Landing page. On handphone portrait, it opens correctly to favourite channels page, on Tx3 mini ( landscape) it opens Profile page instead, and from profile page have to click the Favourite channels there.

Otherwise, no issue with using Unifi Playtv with Tx3 mini with Root Switch Closed. In fact, the app don't need to be modded to use with boxes that has closed root unlike in the old app which has some restrictions requiring mod apk (i.e. WiFi and Root error)

Other boxes which are rooted, will require mod apk downloaded from somewhere and install separately from Playstore. As for Tx3 mini, it is installed directly from Playstore as in my case or other TV box with Android Mobile OS. Not sure if you can find it in MiboxS Android TV OS Playstore.

Latest Mod app available version is only version 1.2.3 from Unifi thread if I am not mistaken. Official Playstore is version 1.3.5.

This app is still very much Mobile OS app requiring Touch screen, but it works flawlessly with a normal mouse with Scoll. The scrolling works well. Using IR remote only with directional pad is not possible, as the app don't recognise the up and down button - it somewhat can register left right ok back, but no indicator where the selection box is on most menu. So even if you intend to use it on MiboxS, mouse or air mouse is required.

The only issue which the app inherited from its predecessor is that the app stops operating when it detects root access during startup. I needed to clear cache, clear app data, close root and login again with username and password. It's predecessor is more aggressive whereby the app runs in the background and check for root.

I can select the max 1.9Mbps picture quality for live channels which should equate to 720p. However the picture seems pixelated to me even on 42" TV. Don't know if this is the same for other boxes or inherent of the app itself and can't be helped.

As for myself, I watch YouTube most, second is AstroGo and third is a couple of VOD apps.
Smart YouTube TV - Ad free - based on YouTube TV app, suitable with IR remote.
Vanced YouTube - Ad free - mod version of YouTube mobile app - suitable with air mouse.

AstroGo is the mainstay of people using Tx3 mini or other boxes which is not rooted or can be unroot, bar MiboxS which currently has issue with the AstroGo mobile version.

VOD apps - I use Newfast which sadly has closed for new registration. It is really like free Netflix with Chinese subs and interface. Other ones are Stremio for P2P VOD of latest flix and TVZion which has regular auto updates. There are a bunch of other renown VOD apps, each their Pros and cons. BeeTV, Cyberflix and lots more. Asian Drama VOD, are also easily available.

Other free IPTV, I do keep a few in the TV box, but only if I find it stable, has dedicated MY section after testing them in my spare phone for a while. Some of them has 18+ channels which are not suitable. Tivimate with manual setting, TeddyTV plus comes to mind. Free IPTV majority originates from Chinese/Taiwan broadcast, so does the free IPTV apps are more Chinese oriented and don't expect subtitles to be in Malay. Mostly these free IPTV apps takes sources that keeps changing every other week. So one has to be diligent to change app as that is how it is being done. The sources are released by the illegal IPTV sellers, in hope of frustrating users to contemplate buying subscription from them instead of the hassle of updating or changing app. This has always been the case with these free IPTV apps that comes with full channels of all major Asian countries TV broadcast.

As for Kodi, if you wish to venture into this - then highly recommended to get 4GB ram Chinese tv boxes excluding MiboxS.

Try disable all settings under HDMI CEC.
If the problem is resolved, then you can Google about HDMI CEC and see how your TV or TVs or other HDMI devices interact with each other ( I.e. control one another). Then enable back which ever settings that works for your convenience.

This post has been edited by password8431: Aug 19 2020, 03:13 AM