hmmm....

interesting pointers to consider

i'll reduce the charging to maybe quarterly (or longer) instead of monthly.

thanks you again

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Feb 3 2021, 04:50 PM

https://soyacincau.com/2025/10/17/aeson-pow...a-launch-price/

interesting new 12v starter battery using sodium ion in the market.....TS might want to find out more if got the chance....

im pretty curious of it and am probably going to try it when my current battery dies out next year or the year after

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Oct 21 2025, 04:55 PM

mazda 3 bm

expensive A F....80%-90% of AGM price

these auto start/stop feature is quite an ass in our climate.....i wouldn't say it is useless as it does reduce fuel consumption a bit but totally impractical....

the only upside due to this feature are that the crank journals and starters are made more robust due to the potential added wear from more engine starts

well....pretty true that the start stop feature won't save any noticeable amount of fuel....and constant stop/start cycle's vibration also wear down the bushings faster, not only the added cost of EFB battery.

I too use regular battery, just press the button the turn off the start/stop every time i start the car, becomes a 2nd nature....actually i don't know why a lot of people find it so difficult to do that and save their hundreds/thousands (on programming or rewiring or plug ins). Once in a blue moon every few months, i will activate it just to check that it is functioning...actually i don't mind that feature turns out error and self disabled in a permanent manner

i feel like the lifespan difference between EFB and regular MF batteries don't differ so much...so regular MF battery for me

but i usually try to use a battery charger every 6 months to do a heavy maintenance charge

huh? this is news to me that it is even possible...

wah weh......somebody so excited with this sodium battery

sodium based battery's sodium is abundant, less extractive minerals involved....which also means lower cost.....

of course the safety aspect as well...if no need to design so many fire and puncture protection systems around the battery, also means weight savings....also equal more range

and lithium/nickel based battery, despite having an established method, is still heck of a headache to dispose/recycle...also the contamination issue of the electrolytes and heavy metals

3 years good lah.....i didn't have any battery that lasted anywhere near 3 years....

camel has a manufacturing plant in malaysia, so their product supplies are usually "fresher" compared to those that are imported from other countries....fresher batteries means lesser self discharge drain when reach your car as they spend lesser time in transit, meaning you get more "battery power" for the same spec/capacity compared to the imported batteries

actually, all those spec value, i seriously skeptical...

take for example for q85 or d23 size, a real experience

i had amaron hi life 85d23L...lasted me 2.5 years (never had periodical charging done) (i guess those were the time when amaron was newly introduced and their internals could be made more robust than current ones)

i had varta ln2 agm....lasted between 2 - 2.5 years (had periodical charging done)

i had varta q85 115d23L.....lasted around 2 years, 22 months if my memory serves me right (had periodical charging done)

now on voltec 85d23L....13 months as of now, can feel cranking a little weaker already (never had periodical charging done)

*never used start stop function since the agm battery

seriously, i believe it is part statistical luck, part the internal structural build quality (that we can't see), and all those uncontrollables such as vibrations, average engine bay temperature, average ambient temperature, voltage fluctuations within the electrical systems, etc.....heck don't know which is the main contributing factor....because all those have some effect towards the longevity of the starter battery

if for me after these experience, i'll just get whatever cheapest for the size that meet the minimum spec required of the car (pretty much most newer generation cars are at least EFB already) and refer shopee prices as reference

although i would want to risk the sodium ion aeson battery if the current one dies...very curious of this new battery medium in it and it's purported claims of durability....if it lasts more than 3 years, consider a win for me

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Nov 19 2025, 05:08 PM

i didn't get the reading for the past battery changes, but i understand my car has a weird limit of 500CCA minimum requirement...after that the check light will light up

after a while, can notice the starter get even weaker

from error light lit up till battery die...my experience is in between 2 weeks till 2 months till the battery die

my own gut feel is that, if it takes 3 seconds for the engine to fire up after check light comes up, i'm playing with game of chance as the battery can die anytime

However, coincidentally, for the sake of checking, i did a reading last week at a battery shop, it was 500CCA/SOC 100%/Battery health 100%

But the crank start to slow already, don't think can last more than 3 more months

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Nov 20 2025, 09:36 AM

to be fair, before fixing the batteries into the engine bay, the sellers did show the readings to be above rated specs on the packaging (which pretty much all established brands can achieve easily, unless the battery has been sitting idle beyond half a year)

And in my experience of using varta (which being a proper established brand), also performed so so compared to the mid spec amaron then....i really wonder whether really worth it to pay for brand premium instead of going for convenience at the nearest car battery installer near home....or batteries nowadays are really made at a lesser internal material spec compared to some years back....

nothing wrong with getting the largest aH rated battery that fits the engine bay, but that is not the be all end all spec to look for....because i think the game of statistical chance is very real (at least for me over 10 years of the car ownership)

unless there is internal short or failed plate, i too am puzzled whether those small transparent window to show the electrolyte health indicator is of any use if the battery just undergoes normal wear/degradation over the months of use

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Nov 20 2025, 11:23 AM

too bad that my charger is the fully automated ctek mxs 5 charger....the only way to "force" a larger charge is through the reconditioning mode which can put in slightly higher voltage for longer period of time.

I guess your car being a non start stop one also meant that you have a car with lesser electrical burden, using Q85 is considered an overspec, hence the probable longer battery life.

i referenced against the amaron hi life 85d23 (which isn't EFB) few batteries back, but lasted the longest ironically. So either the amaron then was overly built, or batteries nowadays are cutting corners to increase sales....i tried agm (LN2 size, just slightly smaller capacity because it is shorter to standard Q85 but CCA higher) once because i read about how it manage to last more than 5 years in european car forums. With that in mind, i was alright with the premium then, but it is also a let down when it just decided to quit on me less than 3 years despite me being extra hardworking in charging it monthly and reconditioning it every 6 months with the ctek charger...cost me RM750 back then for that experiment.

the current battery with 500CCA/SOC 100%/battery health 100%....is actually a regular D23L "enhanced" MF battery (confirm not EFB)...i purposely avoid Q85 because got sick of paying Q85 price when the battery life also don't last...even i tried AGM before also don't make it noticeably longer.....i bought it because the battery shop was promoting that brand and gave 18 month warranty with a better price compared to century brand. Good news is that they honour the warranty as my other car with the same brand smaller battery get to claim a fresh when it died at the exact last day of the 18 month warranty.

So either i wait for the battery to degrade enough to be able to claim within the 18 months warranty, or i get the sodium battery experiment if it dies outside the warranty coverage/terms

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Nov 25 2025, 03:02 PM

sui.....

TS would like to interview you in the future

what car by the way?

wa...approaching 5 years....

which year make is your picanto?

Uses b19/b20 /ns40/m42 size right?

how's the driving pattern for your picanto?

my other car is a picanto ja and the battery died exactly 18 months and i went to claim warranty.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Nov 27 2025, 01:42 PM

early amarons are really a different level compared to current ones....

b24 seems rather large for this displacement and the engine bay...but since it fits and it served you till now, good for you