Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
7 Pages « < 3 4 5 6 7 >Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Insurance Talk V5!, Anything and everything about Insurance

views
     
Holocene
post Jun 17 2019, 09:37 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 17 2019, 09:08 PM)
googled and found this...
thus depends on what you ILP bought
and also the "true' understanding of the "policy account"....
hmm.gif if policy account has not enough $$ to sustain the payment of COI as mentioned by (HOLOCENE at post above), then how?

https://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...ld-brochure.pdf
*
Not enough cash value to sustain and you would like to maintain the policy then you'll need to pay the difference a.k.a pay more a.k.a increase premium.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jun 18 2019, 03:16 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Jun 18 2019, 02:27 PM)
So the amount you end up paying for ilp and standalone medical plan are about the same?
*
It really depends on a few variables:

- fund performance

- revision of COI if any

- changes in premium for term insurance

Hence there is no definite answer. Best case scenario is to sit down with a professional and understand where you financial standing is right now, identify your risk and get options to how you can manage those risk the most efficiently possible.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jun 19 2019, 05:43 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(River @ Jun 19 2019, 05:00 PM)
Yea, that's why I tried to request for GL to cover the operation. Got to admit I was disappointed when it got rejected. 
I think I'll do that. And if they inform me that ovarian cyst = uterine fibroid in their definition, then I need to request an updated policy that excludes ALL the conditions, don't simply put Ovarian Cyst  in my policy and reject my request for something that's not related to it after all.

Will consider changing insurance if the premium is cheaper or something, since I got two pre-existing conditions now if I want to swap insurance.
*
Hi River,

Do let me know if you require any assistance on this matter.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jun 26 2019, 09:43 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(kidmad @ Jun 26 2019, 08:46 PM)
Hi, My wife is looking for a medical card was quoted close to RM400 by AIA with their A Plus Health package with RM1500 value returned if did not claim in the particular year. Are there any other affordable packages?
*
Hi kidmad,

Premium is determined by the following:

Date of birth:
Occupation:
Smoker/Nonsmoker:

and also the coverage you get and sustainability of the ILP. Depending on the information above and what you want, RM400 could be a lot or could be very little.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jun 27 2019, 09:01 AM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(kidmad @ Jun 26 2019, 09:52 PM)
Date of birth: 30/07/1984
Occupation: marketing manager
Smoker/Nonsmoker: non-smoking
*
I suppose the premium is set at RM400 as such as:

- Annual coverage is relatively high

- Sustainability

If you are concern about your premium, suggest you talk to the agent and adjust it to a comfortable amount. There is definitely some room to work around.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jun 30 2019, 12:33 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jun 30 2019, 12:33 PM)
Can't wait to see what are the changes like when tomorrow comes tongue.gif
*
Products will be very very very interesting 😁
Holocene
post Jul 2 2019, 07:29 AM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(nsx88 @ Jul 2 2019, 12:14 AM)
Anyone got any news on New Medical Card plan from AIA or Prudential /Alianz?
Did they increase the Deductible or price?
*
Allianz new medical card: MediSafe Infinite+ now has deductible options of RM5k, RM10k and RM30k. Benefits has also increased hence we do see a slight increase in Cost of Insurance however in terms of premium pricing, it is more affordable now.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 3 2019, 04:35 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(nsx88 @ Jul 2 2019, 10:37 PM)
Compare to AIA or Prudential PruValueMed. How much better is Allianz Infinite Medical plans ?
Cheaper or more coverage?
*
You can be the judge of that. Denion has linked the relevant brochures for your review.

Best,
Jiansheng

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 3 2019, 03:13 PM)
with that deductible options and some increased of benefits, perhaps COI also wont differ much.  smile.gif
to be fair, you compare with

AIA A-Plus Health
Allianz MediSafe Infinite+
Prudential PRUmillion med

hope the link above will give you more insight.
*
You are right!
Holocene
post Jul 9 2019, 02:55 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(hioniq @ Jul 9 2019, 01:33 PM)
Same process were done with both ge and Allianz agents. I met them face to face and gave out same info. Allianz process my request without asking further info, however the GE agent returned and asked me for my medical report. Hence i strongly feel GE process is really tedious as I only requested to top up rm50/month and the reason is very obvious to increase my son's medical benefits. Base on this experience I strongly suggest to go for allianz ILP to avoid the hassle in future when you want to increase benefits and top up monthly premium
*
Hi hioniq,

For Allianz, there are 2 documents for you/agent to complete for the upgrade and that is the Request for Change form & Health Certificate.

Once you've completed and sign off on them it is taken as correct and Allianz will process the applications accordingly.

Every company's underwriting guidelines are a bit different hence you might be required to provide certain documents for Company A when Company B doesn't require to do so.

At Allianz, we are doing our best to make the day to day interaction we have with the client as easy as possible. In fact you'll be glad to find out that in the event you do purchase a new policy with Allianz and there isn't any deferment required, you will be able to receive your approved policy even before you leave the meeting with your agent.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 10 2019, 03:43 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Jul 10 2019, 03:20 PM)
Hi anyone know any takaful operators or insurance companies that accept hep b carrier as client? This is for medical cardm don't  mind if got loading/exclusion just want to see whether there are plan out there for such individual.

Preferably takaful first. If there no takaful operators offer such plan then only maybe can consider taking insurance.
*
I believe most insurance company will be able to provide you with a medical card with loading.

You can check out AIA and Prudential for your Takaful needs.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 10 2019, 10:29 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(Zaci @ Jul 10 2019, 09:24 PM)
Any insurance agent here have products (particularly interested in CI and disability protection, and medical card) with 'Guaranteed Acceptance, No Health Questions or Medical Checks Required'? Kindly PM me.

Also, Great Eastern agents please quote me the yearly premium for male age 43 and female age 29, both non-smokers for GE's Great Love4u product, which I'm considering.

I'm based in PJ.

https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...eat-love4u.html

https://www.greateasternlife.com/content/da...4u-brochure.pdf
*
Interesting question but I'm curious how this came about "Guaranteed Acceptance, No Health Questions or Medical Checks Required"? What are you concern about?

QUOTE(KeyMochi @ Jul 10 2019, 09:51 PM)
Hi all. So my insurance application got rejected recently due to my mental illness history which is sucks + means other insurance sure will reject.

I asked my agent for the refund and he said needs 2 weeks before I can get my money back. Is it true because I kinda need to use money for other things. Tq
*
Yea usually that's the time frame.

QUOTE(drbone @ Jul 10 2019, 10:07 PM)
Can anyone advise on renewable income protection plan?
*
What do you mean? Care to elaborate more?

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 11 2019, 07:32 AM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(drbone @ Jul 11 2019, 04:27 AM)
Any insurance plan to cover high income individuals in case of a mishap?
*
You can look into:

Life insurance for the coverage of Total Permanent Disability which would definitely affect your income and also Critical Illness coverage that covers your from early - advance stage.

At least for Allianz, you can check out PremierLink (Life Insurance) and also PrimeCare+ (Early - Advance CI). Other insurance company should have their own variation of PremierLink but as far as I'm aware PrimeCare+ is one of a kind in Malaysia.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 11 2019, 08:08 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 11 2019, 07:58 PM)
The Allianz Medisafe Infinite Xtra medical plan is discontinued already? Couldn't find it anywhere on the website anymore?

And I also noticed a new plan called Medi Advantage which only covered treatment for certain illnesses/surgery. What a bummer, totally not as good as the Medisafe Infinite Xtra..
*
Yes it has been discontinued.

You can't compare these 2 products as they serve a different purpose with very different coverage.

Did you get the MediSafe Infinite Xtra when it was available?

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 11 2019, 09:16 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jul 11 2019, 08:41 PM)
Didn't manage to get it as I have yet to make up my mind.

How much roughly is the Medi Advantage Plan 1 & Plan 2?
*
Let me know your:

- D.O.B
- Sex
- Occupation
- Smoker/nonsmoker

MediAdvantage is meant to be a complement to an existing medical card, especially the new Allianz MediSafe Infinite+ as it has:

- Genomic Test for Cancer: gain access to genomic testing for cancer which will provide information about your specific cancer and help doctors identify treatments that are most suitable for you.

- Global Expert Medical Opinion: to gain access to worldwide medical experts in various areas of specialization to seek second medical opinion to help in your medical decision making.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 15 2019, 10:48 AM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(joshua7788 @ Jul 15 2019, 10:37 AM)
Hi Peoples,

Just a few question on insurance topic. But let me start with the situation:

My standalone medical and life plan would end in September.

I understand about the waiting period and such but still decide to purchase a plan for september onwards.

Currently I'm looking at getting an ILP for:

Life/TPD: 200k
CI: 100K
PA: 100K
RB: Minimum 250/300

Optional
Global health coverage
Payor benefit/waiver
Will invest more if there's extra cash for safekeeping/sustainability (I'm a horrible money keeper)

So my problem is:

1) An insurance agent (AIA) met and explained that all policy post July 1st must be sustained to term (in this case 100 years old) as such quoted me with a plan with above mentioned required but added a investment plan for sustainability.

Wanted to know if there's such requirement?

2) I've been informed that Life,CI and PA must be same value.

Which I highly doubt.

3) Would the new guideline by Bank Negara affect the ability to partially withdraw from a plan? As withdrawal might lower the value below the term requirement?
I'm quite confused about this as these are provided by few agents that I've contacted.

PS: I'm open to hear opinion and any plans that would help me out.

Basic detail:

Next BD: 24 Years Old.
Non Smoker
White collar job

Thank you in advance for each input  notworthy.gif
*
1) This is incorrect, it only has to be sustainable based on projection up to the term of the coverage. Some insurance company has set a minimum age however with Allianz you can be the one to decide. Of course the longer the term, the higher premium you need to contribute upfront.

2) Depends on the product, some of them share the same pool of money IE: RM100k is shared among life/tpd and CI meaning once you claim CI then the life portion is no longer available.

3) No issue accept you might have a withdrawal penalty if you make any withdrawal in the first 2 years.

Have you discussed the coverage that's appropriate for you with the agents that you've met?

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 15 2019, 08:33 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(crusher @ Jul 15 2019, 08:31 PM)
Guys, understand that ILP has fund to pay up the charges and fees in a policy, what if the fund make total lost and do we need to top up $ to sustain the insurance?
*
Yes. You are right.

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 15 2019, 09:45 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(crusher @ Jul 15 2019, 09:02 PM)
So based on bnm recent announcement, i think now insured will get to know if their fund sufficient or not.

https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/07/...nsurance-policy
*
You are correct. You will be notified during your anniversary date on the sustainability of your ILP. Whether you choose to contribute more to your ILP or invest on your own is up to you personally I go for the later option.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 15 2019, 09:17 PM)
last time I was enticed to buy an insurance policy that "promised" that I can stop paying premium after 10 yrs, for the money inside will self generate money to pay for the premium.....

after 10 yrs, I asked the company...they said the money inside is not able to sustain the premium payment, thus I need to continue to pay.....extra 20 yrs later I am still paying....

I guess, it is high time BNM have some control over this sustainability of premium payment products...
*
Unfortunately, that's just purely sales talk. Nobody can guarantee the fund performance and also the COI, both affects the fund value the most (assuming you've not made any withdrawal during the entire period).

Best,
Jiansheng
Holocene
post Jul 16 2019, 08:57 AM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(crusher @ Jul 15 2019, 11:23 PM)
Later option as in invest in other which not related to ILP?
*
Yes.
Holocene
post Jul 18 2019, 12:08 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(noobmaster99 @ Jul 18 2019, 11:35 AM)
Hi guys, thank you for the advice  smile.gif . My agent is from GE, I am reluctant to sign any exclusion clause, maybe I will consider a difference insurance company.

After that attack, I have fully recovered. There was no attack again. It seems like GE is not willing to negotiate on exclusion clause, so chances to remove the exclusion clause is pretty slim.

BTW, I have paid for the premium 2 months in advance in June. My agent is rushing to get me to sign-up the premium before July, reason she gave is there will be huge increase in premiums/plans from July onwards. I would like to know more about this sweat.gif  sweat.gif

My agent told me once I sign the exclusion my premium will be active. In the event I wanted to cancel, I'm still entitled for full refund right?
*
Since you have not agreed on the exclusion clause, you are entitled for a full refund as your policy has not been issued/approved.

15 days free look period is only applicable if the policy has been issued/approved.

To add, if you're serious about checking out other companies do get it done asap as time is ticking. You still need to consider the 120 days waiting period.

Best,
Jiansheng

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 18 2019, 11:37 AM)
If you are not agreeable for an exclusion then its up to you decide if you want to take up the coverage or not with the exclusion. If it's after the 15 days free look period then you are not entitled for any refund
*
This post has been edited by Holocene: Jul 18 2019, 12:11 PM
Holocene
post Jul 27 2019, 06:20 PM

Independent Financial Advisor
*****
Senior Member
945 posts

Joined: Jun 2012


QUOTE(comme_play @ Jul 27 2019, 02:20 PM)
I was recently proposed the Allianz Powerlink by my agent with RM300 monthly premium.

Is this a good plan to sign up compared to other products in the market? I currently have one with AIA(previously Great Eastern) which I signed up about 10 years ago and am only paying RM185 monthly premium. The agent told me it doesn't have enough coverage for future medical costs 10 -20 years down the road and there isnt an option to upgrade or buy additional insurance policy as top-up to the current one, so I have no choice but to terminate the AIA policy and lose out.

Is getting a new insurance the only option for me? Feel being conned by insurance company if we are forced to cancel our policy like that without any fault on our part.
*
The agent should have instead given you the option for deductibles. It will reduce the premium you need to contribute and you can also maintain your current medical card with AIA.

Best,
Jiansheng

7 Pages « < 3 4 5 6 7 >Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0177sec    0.41    7 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 3rd December 2025 - 11:59 AM