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Holocene
post Dec 3 2019, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(bulletjacky @ Dec 3 2019, 06:37 AM)
Hello Guys,

Need quatation for medical coverage for me. Preferably Aia,allianz,predential and Hong leong. ILP card would be better for me i guess as i dont have any company medical card and i would like to have coverage up to 80 or 90 years. Budget around 4-5k a year.
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Here is a sample quote from Allianz:

Coverage up to 90 years old
- Life/TPD: RM5k
- R&B200: Annual limit RM1.5mil and no lifetime limit
- Waiver of Premium

Premium: RM400/month

Coverage up to 80 years old
- Life/TPD: RM5k
- R&B150: Annual limit RM1.5mil and no lifetime limit
- Waiver of Premium

Premium: RM330/month

Coverage up to 90 years old
- Life/TPD: RM5k
- R&B150: Annual limit RM850k and no lifetime limit
- Waiver of Premium

Premium: RM300/month

Coverage up to 80 years old
- Life/TPD: RM5k
- R&B150: Annual limit RM1.5mil and no lifetime limit
- Waiver of Premium

Premium: RM240/month



Now that we’ve got the quotation part done I would suggest that you consider a deductible option of RM5,000, RM10,000 or RM30,000 if you are financially able to otherwise you will always have the option to request for a deductible further down the road.

Coverage up to 90 years old
- Life/TPD: RM5k
- R&B200: Annual limit RM1.5mil and no lifetime limit
- Waiver of Premium

With deductible:
- RM5k deductible: Premium RM290/month
- RM10k deductible: Premium RM210/month
- RM30k deductible: Premium RM135/month

Best,
Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Dec 3 2019, 04:33 PM
Holocene
post Dec 10 2019, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(prescott2006 @ Dec 10 2019, 02:22 PM)
Hi sifu-sifu, how to know I am over, under or properly insured? I am 31y, my wife 32y, and my son is 1y. Our insurance are as following:
1. Myself - AXA Affin - RM300
2. Wife - AIA - RM346
3. Son - AIA - RM254
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Premium amount does not reflect your coverage.

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Jiansheng
Holocene
post Dec 23 2019, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(afkwan @ Dec 23 2019, 05:29 PM)
Good day sifus

Is it true insurance cost increase by Jan 2020? For buying new plan
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Cost does not increase but the projection % will change and premium will be adjusted accordingly for the coverage term.

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Holocene
post Dec 23 2019, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(afkwan @ Dec 23 2019, 06:07 PM)
ya ya . been told something like new plan must be able to cover until age 100

meaning buying new plan in 2020 got to pay more due to BNM guide is true right?
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Not necessary until 100 years old. Different company has different ways of setting the coverage term.

For Allianz at least, we only require a minimum coverage of 20 years. The client has the flexibility to determine if he/she wants a longer coverage than our minimum. Upon reaching the maturity of the coverage term, the policy will be auto renewed to 100 years old.

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post Jan 2 2020, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(b3ta @ Jan 1 2020, 08:15 PM)
Thanks bro. Will look into it.

What’s the benefit you see with Allianz?
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The reality is that every agent will say their own medical card is the best.

This financial advisor has listed out the benefits for each medical card: https://howtofinancemoney.com/best-medical-card-malaysia

You can decide for yourself which medical card is the best for you as different benefits will attract different people smile.gif

As cliche as it may sound, deciding to sign with which agent is the more important thing 🤓.

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Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Jan 2 2020, 07:54 AM
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post Jan 8 2020, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(kueks @ Jan 7 2020, 11:35 PM)
1) is your purpose of this savings? If yes, have you find out the return from this plan compare to other alternative investment

-purpose is to have an amount of money after retirement, for savings
alternative enquired on public mutual but after knowing that every month there is deduction as "service charges", decided not to go for it, i do save a sum of money every month when salary enters, not really looking at very high returns in short / medium period of time.

3) are the returns guaranteed? Fixed deposit interest is guaranteed. Universal Life plans of such nature will have certain portions that are non-guaranteed.

-thats why i dont trust those agents words, they will say all good just to earn commissions, nobody will know what will happen to those funds in the future

5) What will happen if you can't afford to continue paying premium for 20 years?

- yes its kinda like a commitment to follow through for 20 years, failure to do so will result in waste of money haha

6) you can't save any money at all. you keep using it on buying stuff for yourself. Hence your parents told you that you should buy this plan as a forced savings to discipline myself.

-no ba, i can always save money every month put in different bank account, rarely buy things for myself also lol

by the way, thanks so much for the advice smile.gif must took you long to type
hi

thanks for reply

purpose is basically to have an amount after xx number of years, after retire
am not looking to grow my wealth by alot by investing in this kind of "plan"

currently also been putting aside a sum of money into different bank account as savings, but since the interest is barely non existent, might as well put in something that can safely guarantee a small amount of return (fine for me as long as it keeps up with inflation) <-- or is not possible ? haha

"might as well put in something that can safely guarantee a small amount of return" <-- this main purpose
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You can look into money market or bond funds.

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Jiansheng
Holocene
post Feb 4 2020, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 4 2020, 10:07 AM)
anyone here thinks that purchasing life insurance for aging parents as unethical? thought of getting it, but scared parents think i am counting on them to die soon pula
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Insurance is all about risk management, if getting life insurance will help you with the finances upon your parents passing there is nothing wrong with doing so. Explain to them the various expenses that needs to be handled by their kids in an event of death.

Whatever your reason to buy insurance for your parents, just make sure it makes financial sense to do so.

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post Feb 29 2020, 07:26 PM

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This is a Public Service Announcement:

With the new regulations implemented last year in regards to the sustainability of the policy, agents should also indicate the coverage term for the plan they are quoting.

As we all know premiums and riders will affect the sustainability of the plan.

If you do not indicate the coverage term, at least mention “Premium starts from”.

To the layman, the coverage term should form part of your consideration.

Best,
Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Feb 29 2020, 07:26 PM
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post Mar 8 2020, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Mar 8 2020, 09:54 AM)
There is a school of thought out there that said the annual limit must be burst first then only you can use 2nd card. This means it wrong right?

So your explanation make more sense since whichever card that Mr A choose to use first doesn't really matter because the outcome is same and that is his bill is 100% covered by both of his card.
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Ckdenion explanation is accurate.

One thing to consider is your cash flow as if the 2 medical cards are from different insurance company you might need to come up with the balance before the claim is made.

However if you’re in the above situation and both the medical card is from Allianz Life Insurance you’d use the medical cards as though as it’s a non-deductible medical card. Assuming all the TnCs in the medical card is fulfilled.

Now that you’ve understood the idea, get a confirmation from your insurance companies in regards to this matter.

Best,
Jiansheng

This post has been edited by Holocene: Mar 8 2020, 11:56 AM

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