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Investment SOLASTA @ PERSIARAN DUTAMAS, Dutamas' Latest New Project

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post Mar 31 2019, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Mar 31 2019, 03:04 PM)
Well boss u need to giv facey to blinded die hard fansi ma. Need interaction wan ma. 🤫🤭
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Ya hor.... btw, was also wondering with more than 50 props with positive cash flow, why never give more examples of his props case studies instead of everyday using Titiwangsa... hmmm...cincai rotate 5 examples each time also can hold 10 seminars with different case studies lor...
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post Mar 31 2019, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 31 2019, 03:17 PM)
Ya hor.... btw, was also wondering with more than 50 props with positive cash flow, why never give more examples of his props case studies instead of everyday using Titiwangsa... hmmm...cincai rotate 5 examples each time also can hold 10 seminars with different case studies lor...
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50 props positive =

1. Rental greater than installment?
2. Rental greater than installment + all misc?
3. Low MOF hence positive?
4. Free fr encumbrance?
5. Just tokok?

Merlin boss need to elaborate a bit more.
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post Mar 31 2019, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Mar 31 2019, 03:28 PM)
50 props positive =

1. Rental greater than installment?
2. Rental greater than installment + all misc?
3. Low MOF hence positive?
4. Free fr encumbrance?
5. Just tokok?

Merlin boss need to elaborate a bit more.
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- Spend more ID Full Furnish with makeover guys.
- Throw in big downpayment. Only take 70% loan maybe.
- Tok kok as usual from Indramelin
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post Mar 31 2019, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Mar 31 2019, 04:07 PM)
- Spend more ID Full Furnish with makeover guys.
- Throw in big downpayment. Only take 70% loan maybe.
- Tok kok as usual from Indramelin
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Tokok kenot b applied on guru or followers. They ll feel boh song wan.
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post Mar 31 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(johnsonlim777 @ Mar 28 2019, 06:45 PM)
Remember the universal rule: those who can't do, teach.

Most 'property gurus' in the market have maxed out their personal loan quotas to fund new property investments. So the only way they can keep generating new revenue is via commissions, seminars and one-on-one consultations. So essentially these 'property gurus' are celebrity sales guys.

This is how Faizul Ridzuan's business model works-

Faizul Ridzuan Private Group (FRPG)- Similar to public seminars/talks, he will upload weekly/monthly videos on analysis on areas and grading of properties. Wonder why he's charging you such a low price? Well this is a cheap marketing funnel to influence and entice people to buy his other products. At the end of every FRPG, he will project slides on his products, entice people to join his VIP seminar/ participate as a client to get more 'benefits' via his bulk purchase groups (7 and 8 Digit Club). When he goes through certain topics, he will say things like "I can't elaborate on this concept- area tier, dragon- tail, body, head- because I only cover this during my VIP seminar so it won't be fair to them".

One-on-one consultations- If you need to see him, chances are your property selections are shit/ bleeding money. At the end, he will either encourage you to: join as client/ seminar/ 7 & 8 Digit Club bulk purchase group since you're so bad at selecting properties yourself.

Millionaire Employee Blueprint- This is a group where he uploads a few additional videos on loans, insurance and case studies for an additional few hundred RM.

Bulk Purchase Groups (7 and 8 Digit Club)- He will excite you by saying that you can purchase properties at a lower/ "special/insider" price than the public due to his direct connections with developers. Then he will say his main clients (FAR Capital clients) get priority first so you might miss out on good units and don't make as much money as them. So you become his client.

FAR Capital clients- He will 'encourage' you to purchase multiple properties at once to maximise your limited "loan quota". In the client agreement, he will insert clauses that state that you will have to pay him a certain amount if you do not purchase properties via his company, FAR Capital. He will say that you are not really spending money because 2% sales commission of the property will be refunded to you.

Value Investing Property (VIP) seminar- His partner, Amanda will spend half a day going through interior designs. She will project beautiful designs of successful properties. Guess who carried out those renovations? Faizul's interior design firm (Makeover Guys). At the end of his VIP seminar, he will also give you a snapshot of what his clients are purchasing and drop hints that his clients are making alot of money. If his clients managed to buy a property at say RM600psf and it gets launched at RM700psf to the public, he will go all out and promote that his clients made RM100psf of paper gains.

Interior Design firm (Makeover guys)- During the VIP seminar and if you're his FAR Capital client, he will recommend his interior design firm, Makeover Guys so that you can rent out your units as quickly as possible.

Social media- Each post is designed to influence public opinion to his advantage and funnel sales towards his seminar + property recommendations. From time to time, he will put posts on how well his clients are doing (when in reality they are just making paper gains due to their low entry price/ "bulk purchase price"). This is designed to increase his public profile and 'showcase' his skills. He also has another guy Victor Gan that backs their property recommendation based on numbers and research via his own FB page. If you look at Victor Gan's website, he will release articles that support developments that they are currently selling (have you noticed his posts: Example: does cemetery/ HTC affect property value?)

Commissions from property developers- This is where I think he makes the real $$. Most of his property recommendations are less than RM1m per unit. Assuming it's RM500k, a 2% cut is RM10,000 per unit. Assuming he took up the last block (Block C) for Solasta Dutamas/K12 which has 501 units and 100% takeup rate by his followers, he will make ~RM5m from one development alone. One of his property recommendation was Ooak 163. Guess what Solasta Dutamas and Ooak 163 have in common? They're both from the same developer- YNH Property.

His latest property recommendation: Solasta Dutamas/ K12 is a prime example. His main argument is that it's Grade A because it's located in the Dutamas area so it's ~20% cheaper than surrounding developments. Well open your big eyes, is this really the Dutamas area or the Segambut area? Do you really think that the property will appreciate in value if it is dominated by investors? Plus it's near high tension cables, cemetery, highway, no LRT/MRT nearby.

"To remain silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all". I hope that I will be the last sucker. But I know that this will not be possible. tongue.gif
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Great one

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post Apr 1 2019, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(johnsonlim777 @ Mar 28 2019, 06:45 PM)
Remember the universal rule: those who can't do, teach.

Most 'property gurus' in the market have maxed out their personal loan quotas to fund new property investments. So the only way they can keep generating new revenue is via commissions, seminars and one-on-one consultations. So essentially these 'property gurus' are celebrity sales guys.

This is how Faizul Ridzuan's business model works-

Faizul Ridzuan Private Group (FRPG)- Similar to public seminars/talks, he will upload weekly/monthly videos on analysis on areas and grading of properties. Wonder why he's charging you such a low price? Well this is a cheap marketing funnel to influence and entice people to buy his other products. At the end of every FRPG, he will project slides on his products, entice people to join his VIP seminar/ participate as a client to get more 'benefits' via his bulk purchase groups (7 and 8 Digit Club). When he goes through certain topics, he will say things like "I can't elaborate on this concept- area tier, dragon- tail, body, head- because I only cover this during my VIP seminar so it won't be fair to them".

One-on-one consultations- If you need to see him, chances are your property selections are shit/ bleeding money. At the end, he will either encourage you to: join as client/ seminar/ 7 & 8 Digit Club bulk purchase group since you're so bad at selecting properties yourself.

Millionaire Employee Blueprint- This is a group where he uploads a few additional videos on loans, insurance and case studies for an additional few hundred RM.

Bulk Purchase Groups (7 and 8 Digit Club)- He will excite you by saying that you can purchase properties at a lower/ "special/insider" price than the public due to his direct connections with developers. Then he will say his main clients (FAR Capital clients) get priority first so you might miss out on good units and don't make as much money as them. So you become his client.

FAR Capital clients- He will 'encourage' you to purchase multiple properties at once to maximise your limited "loan quota". In the client agreement, he will insert clauses that state that you will have to pay him a certain amount if you do not purchase properties via his company, FAR Capital. He will say that you are not really spending money because 2% sales commission of the property will be refunded to you.

Value Investing Property (VIP) seminar- His partner, Amanda will spend half a day going through interior designs. She will project beautiful designs of successful properties. Guess who carried out those renovations? Faizul's interior design firm (Makeover Guys). At the end of his VIP seminar, he will also give you a snapshot of what his clients are purchasing and drop hints that his clients are making alot of money. If his clients managed to buy a property at say RM600psf and it gets launched at RM700psf to the public, he will go all out and promote that his clients made RM100psf of paper gains.

Interior Design firm (Makeover guys)- During the VIP seminar and if you're his FAR Capital client, he will recommend his interior design firm, Makeover Guys so that you can rent out your units as quickly as possible.

Social media- Each post is designed to influence public opinion to his advantage and funnel sales towards his seminar + property recommendations. From time to time, he will put posts on how well his clients are doing (when in reality they are just making paper gains due to their low entry price/ "bulk purchase price"). This is designed to increase his public profile and 'showcase' his skills. He also has another guy Victor Gan that backs their property recommendation based on numbers and research via his own FB page. If you look at Victor Gan's website, he will release articles that support developments that they are currently selling (have you noticed his posts: Example: does cemetery/ HTC affect property value?)

Commissions from property developers- This is where I think he makes the real $$. Most of his property recommendations are less than RM1m per unit. Assuming it's RM500k, a 2% cut is RM10,000 per unit. Assuming he took up the last block (Block C) for Solasta Dutamas/K12 which has 501 units and 100% takeup rate by his followers, he will make ~RM5m from one development alone. One of his property recommendation was Ooak 163. Guess what Solasta Dutamas and Ooak 163 have in common? They're both from the same developer- YNH Property.

His latest property recommendation: Solasta Dutamas/ K12 is a prime example. His main argument is that it's Grade A because it's located in the Dutamas area so it's ~20% cheaper than surrounding developments. Well open your big eyes, is this really the Dutamas area or the Segambut area? Do you really think that the property will appreciate in value if it is dominated by investors? Plus it's near high tension cables, cemetery, highway, no LRT/MRT nearby.

"To remain silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all". I hope that I will be the last sucker. But I know that this will not be possible. tongue.gif
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Very nice writeup indeed! I think those so called 'property gurus' needs to be given a wake up call.

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post Apr 1 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Apr 1 2019, 12:35 AM)
Very nice writeup indeed! I think those so called 'property gurus' needs to be given a wake up call.
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Great one! he is so greedy too!
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post Apr 1 2019, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Joanne Alia @ Apr 1 2019, 10:40 AM)
Great one! he is so greedy too!
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Apparently he recommended MCT Cyber South.

If you want to see how bad the quality is, check out the public group here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/2196202403735945/

To be clear, I am not his competitor. I used to be his follower but I realised how greedy and unscrupulous Faizul has become.

Guys, I urge you to share my initial post and make it go viral on social media. Let's expose these unethical business practices that are threatening our great society.

This post has been edited by johnsonlim777: Apr 1 2019, 10:53 AM
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post Apr 1 2019, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(johnsonlim777 @ Apr 1 2019, 10:52 AM)
Apparently he recommended MCT Cyber South.

If you want to see how bad the quality is, check out the public group here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/2196202403735945/

To be clear, I am not his competitor. I used to be his follower but I realised how greedy and unscrupulous Faizul has become.

Guys, I urge you to share my initial post and make it go viral on social media. Let's expose these unethical business practices that are threatening our great society.
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Ya lo! MCT Cybersouth puke.gif
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post Apr 1 2019, 11:18 AM

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actually the location is not bad, it's next to cemetery, so every night u can get 4d numbers, also next to Segambut train station , where u will find impossible to get onto the KTM (before 9am), next door to Riana Dutamas, Tan Chong which is going to become another big mixed development, and everywhere jam.

But the best part of this location is next to Duke, which we all know is poorly constructed road with a lot of noise even with noise barriers (i live next to it, so I know)

Good luck.
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post Apr 1 2019, 11:47 AM

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aiyoh, everybody also need to cari makan mah.
in the end, if one proceed without doing their own due diligence, they are fully responsible for their own action lor.


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post Apr 1 2019, 12:00 PM

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There is no charity in biz.

Guru ll onli giv a helping finger but not helping hand even if u pay ur life saving to them.


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post Apr 1 2019, 12:06 PM

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Another thread talking about FR? Kahkah... free advertisement guys.
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post Apr 1 2019, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 1 2019, 12:06 PM)
Another thread talking about FR? Kahkah... free advertisement guys.
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QUOTE(Joanne Alia @ Apr 1 2019, 10:40 AM)
Great one! he is so greedy too!
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I think property gurus are bs if they have their own interest vested in the property. I think that is what people call conflict of interest.
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post Apr 1 2019, 01:49 PM

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You guys think we are doomed. How can it be if we are buying cheaper than subsale?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 1 2019, 11:47 AM)
aiyoh, everybody also need to cari makan mah.
in the end, if one proceed without doing their own due diligence, they are fully responsible for their own action lor.
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QUOTE(Syahrim Naim @ Apr 1 2019, 01:49 PM)
You guys think we are doomed. How can it be if we are buying cheaper than subsale?
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Noone at the top of pyramid in a mlm or ponzi ll doom

Onli followers who given a cut to those at the top r having hard time

As mentioned by fei Mao followers hav full responsibility of their own decision

Oso stated above cari makan ma. Where got charity in biz wan. Onli those with agendas ll deny such statement lo.

Dun b too defensive. It shows some desperation thou.

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post Apr 1 2019, 01:57 PM

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Do you know what’s the purpose of a grading system? to make you so engrossed in grading the property that you fail to see the most important negative points ! Ha ha
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QUOTE(kochin @ Apr 1 2019, 11:47 AM)
aiyoh, everybody also need to cari makan mah.
in the end, if one proceed without doing their own due diligence, they are fully responsible for their own action lor.
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If you sell what you preach, then no problem. It is not wrong for a person/company to maximise profits, this is perfectly legal and encouraged (economic boost, job opportunities, etc.). What is totally wrong is engaging in marketing fraud.

When you promote properties or units that you have purchased yourself, this is called vested interest.

When you give false promises/claims regarding the nature or quality of a product, this is called misrepresentation.

MCT Cybersouth is a perfect example: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2196202403735945/

This post has been edited by johnsonlim777: Apr 1 2019, 04:30 PM
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post Apr 1 2019, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(johnsonlim777 @ Apr 1 2019, 02:42 PM)
If you sell what you preach, then no problem. It is not wrong for a person/company to maximise profits, this is perfectly legal and encouraged (economic boost, job opportunities, etc.). What is totally wrong is engaging in marketing fraud.

When you promote properties or units that you have purchased yourself, this is called conflict of interest. 

When you give false promises/claims regarding the nature or quality of a product, this is called misrepresentation.

MCT Cybersouth is a perfect example: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2196202403735945/
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hhmmmm... i don't quite get you there.
a representative or a promoter of a product who uses the promoted product would be deemed conflict of interest?

so if michael jordan promotes nike's air jordan, then it's bulls if he uses it?
and if michael jackson promotes pepsi but never drinks it, then he should just should beat it?

on the contrary i think it gives more assurance to a fans or followers if the promoter have their own skin in the game.

shareholders like steve jobs, warren buffet, mark z, etc does it all the time. promoting their companies to shareholders to consider taking up or buying their shares.

it will be scary if i would to buy from someone who preaches and promotes a firm that they have zero association with.
are you referring to financial analyst that does stock recommendations? hmm.gif

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