Instaban after refund?
A lot of people used to abuse the refund system, so yeah most now just ban.

If you didn't get banned, would you still be playing?

Most probably not, i waste too much time trying to get Catalyst of skills up lvl been trying to get strange jelly in World/Hard difficulty with my team for almost 3 days.
I never got once i use all my energy including the one you get from daily/events.

Almost total of 300 energy per days take about 8 energy per round. I had a lot of weapon/armor fodder but i dont have enough gold to enhance them on my gear.

End up i try selling them 1 for 1.5k-2.5K Gold, but still not enough to enhance. I decided to trust my guts like i should in previous game experience ahem BDO.
Should have left earlier end up spending 6 months of nothing and pain

Like i say a lot of reasons make me decided my time better spend in another game.
Its not a game where F2P like me will enjoy playing at the very least.

At the very least i can say i already exhaust almost 80% of the free skystone from day 1 till now.

if i even manage to get the remaining 20% thats just about 20-30 pull which after experience 100 pull i see no hope on getting any 4* or 5*.

Those who got luckier than me dont be dismay by my post, maybe i am just cursed with a bad account.

Maybe things will change as new patch kick in but i am a skeptic so i will take my leave first.

hey if things do change maybe i will just try playing it again.

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Nov 22 2018, 05:39 PM

Yeah I don't think it's really f2p friendly, but if you just play casually, and not rush things, you'll eventually get enough stuff for most things. If Fate Go at 1% rate also I can survive, i'm sure this one I can also. But the grinding is no mercy la this game, it's painful and a lot harder than any gatcha games I played. Other gatchas lets you earn gold by just farming a certain quest where the monster just drops a lot of gold, but this one doesn't have those... selling gold is a greedy idea.. there won't be such place you can grind for easy gold

If anything I can fall back to Fate Go or Dragalia Lost where I have like a lot of 5* and living a happy life there when it comes to gatcha.

Wow Bro you are too Hardcore. i will only wish you all the best.

Thing is if you play casually right means your character got no skills up catalyst means eventually you will still end up the same wall as me.

Mean you need to go xx map node to grind and see no drop like me with 300 energy x 3 days and apa habuk pun tak ader.

Basically just delaying the inevitable of catalyst and gold problem once you start enhancing gear, dont forget their daily also dont give you much gold and etc.

Unless you tell me the current event free 100k gold will kept on continue forever and free 100-170 energy.

Because once this event end you really will be doing what most KR player say to me use crystal to buy energy

or

You spend all ur Orbis on the middle sanctuary where you can get according to some people 100k gold and 32 skystone if you click it every few hour or so.
TBH this method i rather not play at all

You manage to climb ke bro?

Idk how the sharks are like in Challenger but i kena bunuh and spit out in Master division already.

Hi, any active guild still got slot for malaysia player? I am at asia server

This post has been edited by ./Hack-Fusion: Nov 22 2018, 06:10 PM

The grinding for catalyst is something, but I think i'm alright with it. Have to see for myself.
Energy gated fine by me, since I still have my other games to play, I kinda like when I don't have energy anymore to play, so I can move on to other games.

I'm always more into pve rather than pvp. So I think i'll be alright. The only thing that matters would be if I get a 5 star unit or not only.. If I don't get any at all I most likely will stop at some point. But if I get something then it will keep me playing for a while, until I move on to some other games.

Hahaha Bro i am on Gold 1 Rank. one more round and i am Master Rank. then plan to hold my position here as i currently feeding my 5 star to 6star. i notice you have money issue with this game. But so far i find myself quite rich . i dunno but i have like 7mil although my equipment not all +15. but most of my chracter have Heroic or Epic Gear with at least +7 and above max +10 currently.

I have invest in many chracters. a lot of them is currently lv 50 and in 4th awakening. (Aside from my Destina and Ravi, i also invested in Silk, Lorina, Tiera, Kiris, Carmonrose, Romann,Dingo, Alexa Elson, Pyllis and many useless chracter which i send to dispatch mission is all lv 30 or lv 40 max due to getting them often in summon)


As for my summon. i have gotten quite a few Thief and Soul Weather 5 star artifact. Hero i have gotten one additional 5 star(aside from Ravi and Destina) and few 4 star ( Catuja and Maya, Dingo, Romann and few others) from summoning. overall so far i have no issue with the game.

i find out you also have Stamina issue. so far my stamina i have really a lot of them. everyday i got free stamina twice from the game.) + Stamina from event+ Stamina i claim from frienship shop everyday+stamina i claim from ancient point). in fact i cannot even finish using them all so i have to wait until weekend when i have more time to fully utilised them.

Usually my routine everyday is when i am working i find out my stamina already full so i will send my team to auto fight some Alta Spirit+hunting while completing daily then when after work. i will do the rest ( Abby+PVP+ lving my phantasm+doing current event). that take up quite a lot of my time in fact so i cannot finish using the stamina is given to me that i have push back the stamina so i will fully utilised them on weekend)

there is a Malaysian guild actively recruiting for Asia server in official discord

discord.me/epic7global

the LYN guys in global is super active, come join

Gold 1 still fine.
In fact you have Ravi who is pretty good better than mine i only got Destinia to tank for me 9k hp with 4 part PVP t5/t6 tier +9.
I would strongly suggest getting 1 to 60 b4 u even attempt to go up to Master division.

I been doing golem 8 and crafting a lot of gear trying to get the perfect stats once i got those stats i enhance them as well.

I already clear finish including reputation 100% of Destinia side story 2days ago lol.

I just kept on auto like you as well almost all of my character are 4th awaken lvl50 including all that you mention except i dont have some of them like Dingo Pylis Ravi etc.


Like i say now honeymoon you will have a lot because of the event give at least 100-170 energy i usually clear them all also because i play once after work.
I say KR player told me they have stamina problem to the extend they are paying skystone for energy.
Event eventually will end they wont kept on give you free energy, once it end you will know this game lack of energy is a problem as well.
Unless you tell me this event is perma they kept on give us free

This post has been edited by Jigoku: Nov 22 2018, 06:56 PM

I'm looking for guild too at Asia server, can invite me in this discord server?

how to invite? i dunno how to use discord

Nvm i found it, this game troublesome since can't chat in game, and I'm noob using discord 😂

In game chat coming at some point. If i remember correctly according to dev log

i understand your concern about stamina, but if there is no restriction about stamina, then you will see people like me who will set macro and farm 24/7.. then now you will be seeing people with full team Max lv 60( with full awakening ) and with full equipment +15. so sometimes it is good to limit. By the way i believe the stamina recover 1 every 4-5 minutes. i think that is very generous compare to some game i play before that i have to wait like dunno how many hours to recover 1.

Mobile game especially gatcha one's isn't suppose to be played 24/7, you should play other games anyway. I don't see the issue about energy either.

Hi All, I started playing not too long ago. Was wondering if got guild I can join in Asia Server. Now I'm in some China guild haha.

Upstairs there are people recruiting. their discord is there. maybe you can give a try. Asia Server.

hahaha, now's day is game play people, not people playing game.
It force you to do things instead of you enjoying it.

gacha rate is bad lol.. all my bookmark wasted on 3 star & stupiak artifacts saja.