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 City of Elmina by Sime Darby v3, Part of Selangor Vision City

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SUSkevin23
post Nov 7 2019, 02:30 PM

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Wanted to buy here last time. But after visiting the area, didnt buy due to non stop plane noise. Besides Malindo and Firefly planes, there are also military planes and cargo planes as the military airfield is nearby

Just not for me. But could be ok for others
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post Nov 7 2019, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Nov 7 2019, 02:30 PM)
Wanted to buy here last time. But after visiting the area, didnt buy due to non stop plane noise.  Besides Malindo and Firefly planes, there are also military planes and cargo planes as the military airfield is nearby

Just not for me. But could be ok for others
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As I said earlier...you too focus on the airplane, which is why you notice there is the noise you cannot accept.

When after the house is done with all the furniture in, there is peace and claim in the house. You dont even know even planes fly over how many timessss.

Same apply to other places. Like beside road, alot cars lorry pass by...its just the same
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post Nov 10 2019, 08:52 AM

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Does anyone know what was the discounted selling price for Tiana semi-d @ Elmina Garden for the regular intermediate units?
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post Nov 10 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(fightingdragons @ Nov 10 2019, 08:52 AM)
Does anyone know what was the discounted selling price for Tiana semi-d @ Elmina Garden for the regular intermediate units?
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Tiana do have 2 phases, 1st phase is closer to the Jalan Frekunsi U110 and 2nd phase closer to garden play ground. I can't recall how much is the SDP launching prices, it should be from 1.69 mil for 1st phase and phase 2 is additional 1.8+ Mil, both prices before 5% rebate.
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QUOTE(avinlim @ Nov 7 2019, 02:37 PM)
As I said earlier...you too focus on the airplane, which is why you notice there is the noise you cannot accept.

When after the house is done with all the furniture in, there is peace and claim in the house. You dont even know even planes fly over how many timessss.

Same apply to other places. Like beside road, alot cars lorry pass by...its just the same
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Our brain could suppress continuous background noise. However, airplane noise is not continuous. Hence, could not suppress.

Regardless of furniture, one could still hear airplane noise.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 11 2019, 12:11 AM)
Our brain could suppress continuous background noise. However, airplane noise is not continuous. Hence, could not suppress.

Regardless of furniture, one could still hear airplane noise.
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I was there from 10am - 5pm last week. notice plane fly over, but feel nth as I was concentrating my job. Any its up to individual. Elmina is really a good place for me anyway.
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post Nov 11 2019, 12:32 PM

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Launch price is so low? According to some websites (https://www.propsocial.my/property/9142/elmina-gardens/tiana), the launch price is 1.9m for the standard intermediate lot - I'm assuming this is before rebates/discounts.


QUOTE(utellme @ Nov 10 2019, 11:13 PM)
Tiana do have 2 phases, 1st phase is closer to the Jalan Frekunsi U110 and 2nd phase closer to garden play ground.  I can't recall how much is the SDP launching prices, it should be from 1.69 mil for 1st phase and phase 2 is additional 1.8+ Mil, both prices before 5% rebate.
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post Nov 11 2019, 12:38 PM

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This was my concern initially as well. I have been to Elmina Gardens 5-6 times to view houses and each time I purposely stay a long while to observe the plane noise. Out of all those times, only once there was a plane which was very loud even indoors. Other than that, I think bearable/won't notice it. In fact the last 2 times there, I was surprised I didn't hear any plane sounds after spending an hour there.

If you check the map, Subang Jaya (SS15) is around the same distance from Subang Airport on the south as Elmina Garden is on the north. Having been to Subang so many times, I don't remember hearing plane noises. I think once the area becomes more developed, has more traffic, more activity, the plane noise becomes less obvious.

You can also check the flight path here if you really want to see which areas the planes are flying over: https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/szb

QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 11 2019, 12:11 AM)
Our brain could suppress continuous background noise. However, airplane noise is not continuous. Hence, could not suppress.

Regardless of furniture, one could still hear airplane noise.
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This post has been edited by fightingdragons: Nov 11 2019, 12:42 PM
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post Nov 11 2019, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(fightingdragons @ Nov 11 2019, 12:38 PM)
This was my concern initially as well. I have been to Elmina Gardens 5-6 times to view houses and each time I purposely stay a long while to observe the plane noise. Out of all those times, only once there was a plane which was very loud even indoors. Other than that, I think bearable/won't notice it. In fact the last 2 times there, I was surprised I didn't hear any plane sounds after spending an hour there.

If you check the map, Subang Jaya (SS15) is around the same distance from Subang Airport  on the south as Elmina Garden is on the north. Having been to Subang so many times, I don't remember hearing plane noises. I think once the area becomes more developed, has more traffic, more activity, the plane noise becomes less obvious.

You can also check the flight path here if you really want to see which areas the planes are flying over: https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/szb
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How noisy depends on the type of airplane. pos malaysia 4am departure for certain would wake up light sleepers.

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There were a few discussions about the flight path issue in this thread.
Please try to search back to know more.

Generally, this is a deal breaker for me.
I don't mind about the noise in the house but cannot convince myself when I'm out in the garden. (was aiming for semi-d earlier).
Furthermore, the potential air pollution hazard is invisible.

Eventually, I opt for other place.
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post Nov 11 2019, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 11 2019, 01:17 PM)
How noisy depends on the type of airplane. pos malaysia 4am departure for certain would wake up light sleepers.
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Double glazed window would solved the problem.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 11 2019, 09:37 PM)
Double glazed window would solved the problem.
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No doubt could reduce noise substantially. however, noise still could transmit through roof.

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Haha.. Why everyone so interested in Elmina Garden plane noise recently?

Thought Elmina Garden was VPed few years back.. Interesting...
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post Nov 12 2019, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(fightingdragons @ Nov 11 2019, 12:32 PM)
Launch price is so low? According to some websites (https://www.propsocial.my/property/9142/elmina-gardens/tiana), the launch price is 1.9m for the standard intermediate lot - I'm assuming this is before rebates/discounts.
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1.9 mil most likely the 2nd phase, definitely not the 1st phase.
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post Nov 12 2019, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Snoy @ Nov 11 2019, 04:50 PM)
There were a few discussions about the flight path issue in this thread.
Please try to search back to know more.

Generally, this is a deal breaker for me.
I don't mind about the noise in the house but cannot convince myself when I'm out in the garden. (was aiming for semi-d earlier).
Furthermore, the potential air pollution hazard is invisible.

Eventually, I opt for other place.
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Only Garinia, 1st phase of Tiana and Reesa at E. garden affected by the flight routes. Yes, both Tiana and Reesa are Semi-D type.
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post Nov 12 2019, 11:24 AM

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Air pollution is one of my concerns also. But as I stay abt 300m away from LDP, I don't think it is any worse than that. Also at 5-6km from SZB, the planes are still high enough for the wind to disperse the pollutants. At least that's how I'm justifying to myself to consider Elmina (still haven't buy). Any experts with more scientific explanation would be helpful!

Btw, which other place did you opt for?

QUOTE(Snoy @ Nov 11 2019, 04:50 PM)
There were a few discussions about the flight path issue in this thread.
Please try to search back to know more.

Generally, this is a deal breaker for me.
I don't mind about the noise in the house but cannot convince myself when I'm out in the garden. (was aiming for semi-d earlier).
Furthermore, the potential air pollution hazard is invisible.

Eventually, I opt for other place.
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This post has been edited by fightingdragons: Nov 12 2019, 11:35 AM
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post Nov 12 2019, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(fightingdragons @ Nov 12 2019, 11:24 AM)
Air pollution is one of my concerns also. But as I stay abt 300m away from LDP, I don't think it is any worse than that. Also at 5-6km from SZB, the planes are still high enough for the wind to disperse the pollutants. At least that's how I'm justifying to myself to consider Elmina (still haven't buy). Any experts with more scientific explanation would be helpful!
It is easy to google to find article related to pollution below flight path.
One example: https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-0529-la...0529-story.html
Anyway, this doesn't mean the articles are proven valid.

QUOTE(fightingdragons @ Nov 12 2019, 11:24 AM)
Btw, which other place did you opt for?
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Accidentally found a hidden gem in Puchong.
New, bigger, cheaper and freehold in more established city.
Loan rejected unit... don't think if there is anything left.





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post Nov 12 2019, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 11 2019, 10:45 PM)
No doubt could reduce noise substantially. however, noise still could transmit through roof.
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Noise coming through the roof is not as significant as through window as the sound wave need to pass through few layers before reaching the internal of the house.

Not to mention most newer project comes with metal decking roof and mineral wool insulation which improves sound insulation through the roof. Not sure about elmina though.
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post Nov 12 2019, 08:49 PM

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The Elmina Groove delayed to Dec 2019 ady? rename to Ilham?
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post Nov 12 2019, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Nov 12 2019, 08:49 PM)
The Elmina Groove delayed to Dec 2019 ady? rename to Ilham?
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Ya delay already. Elmina Grove is the area. Total have 4 phase. 1st phase call ilham.

Master layout for 1st phase already available at show room. I just go and see last weekend


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