For me I don't think bezza fc very good, it was good but there were alot other manufacturer were giving same or better results, Mazda Honda, despite bigger cc.

Bezza is Toyota engine though.

yes ler... monsoon now...
mabbe bezza light enuf to float to destination...
heh...

bezza with a snorkel... lol

waaaaaaaaaa....

now, thats gonna be a drive...

thats true, statistically speaking,
but if u look at the rm value, its a very different story...

the difference in price of those cars u mentioned is around rm 25k.... no?

the amount we have to save to make up the difference of rm25k is.....
going to be alot of km....

lets say, i get 300 km at 25 liters... thats 12 km/L (i get more, but nvrm)
honda city get 15 km/L (grab driver from klang told me 14kmL but lets be generous)
thats 3 km/L more..
3 x 25 (litre)= 75km extra... (lets use 25 litre as a bench mark)
so, for rm55 (25 litre), they get 75km extra..
75km / 12km (what i get) = 6.25Litre
meaning i have to use extra 6.25 litre to match honda city total km travelled at 25 litre.... get it?
6.25 Litre.. x rm2.2 per litre ron 95 = rm13.75

rm25000 / rm13.75 = 1818.182 full tank of petrol leh....
just to match city's selling price...
is my math correct... lemme know if i'm wrong...
ummm... i'm quite sure i'm wrong somewhere, but i cant seem to figure it out..
its late and i'm sleepy... time to zzzzzz

and in my case, 30k km in 2 years...
have to keep the car for a longer period just to make up the difference...

ok la... got more face value from driving a more expensive car, thus making them have more snob appeal...
the adage of the saying, judging the book by the cover..
if thats important, then by all means buy them...


on a different note,
i just gave a talk about Lighting design to first city college uni, ... and the projects i did....,
when finish, the asst head of dept was telling me how impressed she was at the projects i did,
she walked me to my car... a bezza, and the look on her face... priceless...
she didnt say it, but, thinking, ''u do those high end projects and u drive bezza????''
lol
yes... and i'm very happy with it... not the just the car in particular but the anti-establishment philosophy that comes with it...
in fact, i shud be driving a 20 year old kanchil, or saga.... lol
more money in my pocket...

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Nov 21 2019, 02:50 AM

am using for 2 days... what can i say is what u pay is what you got... FC far ok than my previous old iswara... while if compare to my 2015 vios slightly worth for the FC and services (for now).. Btw ur golden right foot also making decisions of ur FC... haha for me la I am not very golden right foot guy due to i more on relaxing cruising speed...

sometimes i really dont understand someone who own bezza kept complaining about bezza. If you think bezza is so bad, sell it and buy other segment A rather than keep complaining how bad is bezza and himself still driving it. It really contradict each time you comment

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This post has been edited by Goodboy92: Nov 21 2019, 06:13 PM

I think the someone is me , just to make things clear, I dint complaint bezza for my last post, I said bezza fc is not that great compare to Honda and Mazda, which is true isn't it? They even has bigger cc.
I think bezza is bad? Yes and No, certain thing it was really bad, certain thing it was really good. I wish I can afford to sell it but I can't afford. Can't a person drive his own car and don't like it? I think it was normal for people to complaint about their own car.

i'm quite sure it is u...
LOL...
but i laugh now but i oso say that of all the responders here, u are by far the one of the most helpful...
although oso one of the most negative,,, lol

i oso didnt say only good things about bezza... read my past posts, but i dont concentrate on the negative..

like my post on the fuel consumption, the statistic shows info, looking at the base stats shows bezza not as good as honda or toyota,
but looking at the wider picture, where differences in prices reveals a different picture..

so, dont just concentrate on the bad side of town...
but oso the overal picture so that we can share a better picture and we can all make a better decision...

we, i'm quite sure, almost all of us are concerned buyers/owners and not just some blind fanboys...
we make decisions base on the overall picture,
once we make a decision, no point complaining too much bcos in the end, it is we who made the decision...
complaining so much oso make us look like idiots cos its our own decision...
if we made a wrong one, the who to blame other that ourselves...

the plus and minus of things must be looked at from an overall picture and shared unbiased...
i am biased against proton, and i will state that in my post, so that people will know..
but then u and singk commented on the iris n persona brakes are way better than bezza...
i will take that as constructive comment, i havent tested them thoroughly...so i will give u guys the benefit of the doubt...
and adjust my views accordingly...
then i will stop my rant on proton, but i am still biased against them... but i said so aledi and thats it... no need to continue like a broken cd/record mah.... right..? or else i will sound like a hater... i'm not, just biased... i can still be convinced to like proton again...
mabbe later... when they really prove themselves. not now..

keep an open mind la... makes u a better person in the long run..
again i say this, u are one of the most helpful responders around here, just leaning too much to the negative side and not wanting to see the overall picture.. lol

chill la goodboy.. peace man...
more important things to do in this life...

like finding a place to go jalan jalan to rest awhile..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg9mlMnQAVM

INXS - Mediate

This post has been edited by jtan.pdr: Nov 21 2019, 06:40 PM

i'm on you bro. i don't get the idea about when you buy a car you must have no complain about it. for sure it always come with some shortcoming for it. how i wish bezza has the ride and handling of a saga yet retain the good fc it gets now. that will be perfect. but the fact is, bezza and saga are not the same creature. like you said, there's good and bad for bezza, no doubt about it.

I dint quote the reply as will make the page too long

I actually do say good thing about bezza , but dont know why it was like not there haha

i think i said before it has good space , reliability ( unknown ) but so far no major problem heard , good fuel consumption , resale value . anything else it was good at? i do say the bad thing too but dont want repeat here , my aim is to make sure reader dont get wrong info such as when we said bezza has very good fc only when compare to competitor in same price range , bezza has very big space where this is true only for the boot space , it was still a A segment afterall selling at B segment price for the 1.3cc spec.

the main thing that cause me " regret " the buying is the overpriced A segment car , other than that all ok.

If to said about FC and selling price , proton do give big discount , i think the saga could be 10k lower priced than 1.3 bezza , but you need to bear with possible break down from time to time.

U r complicating things here with ur purpose of "making sure readers dun get the wrong info". Well let us all get the facts straight here then.

Every car mfg post their FC figures but do they list their competitors clearly in comparison black & white to upsell their own product? So how do readers get wrong info as stated by ur claim? It is just reading the FC info at face value, correct? The comparison are done by consumers themselves. Does Perodua misrepresent anything in their info?

It is ur choice of words that make urself hypocritical unfortunately. It is perfectly OK to say that another car with a higher cc yet can achieve a better FC, and u prefer THAT car. THAT car is more impressive on FC but that doesnt give u the right to conclude the FC of the Bezza as lNOT GOOD. See ur choice of words? This is just one example. Things need not be at this extreme all the time, hv some balance & think, be fair to urself & the product itself. If the product failed u, by all means support with ur claims, not ur wishlist on a national car when it has exceeded the expectation by including safety features at today prices.

U can go on to compare the gd handling of other makes but the price diff is so significant. I'd hv concluded that the Bezza, given its price range, is gd for what it is designed for. There is nothing wrong in saying the cons but there is no need to amplify it either as what jtan has informed u. I can make a car almost w/o safety features at a cheap price for u but would u promise that u will NOT grumble it is an unsafe car? And if I had more $$, i'd hv bought so & so. That will not put urself in gd light.

Ok. Saga is 10k cheaper but do u want ur fellow readers to deal with a breakdown everytime? So what is ur point here? "Help" readers that there is a cheaper car? Or "help" readers there is a car which can breakdown easily? Do u URSELF wanna drive a 10k cheaper car but bear with possible breakdown as what u claimed? When u r required to be conclusive in ur stand, u didnt do so. When there is no need to be conclusive & judgemental, u came out with lotsa ur own judgement & misleading conclusion.

Regret is a strong word here & u r misleading & confusing readers here.

There is really nothing wrong to say imperfections on a car but do u regret buying it?

There is no such thing as regret this price of the car but dun regret the gd things abt the car.

I is like I regret buying merc cos it is so expensive thou it does gives me some benefits which I like. Think abt this statement & u will know what makes u so genuinely different fr another whom equally discuss abt the cons.

Again, regret is a strong conclusive word.

Refer post 1401

I said the FC is not very good but it was good. Never said bezza fc is bad at all.

I put regret with " regret"

No comment for other thing as I dint put any conclusion on which car to buy, my intention is just to discuss here, not to argue anything, I said it was 10k cheaper and possible breakdown time to time, I dint say go ahead buy saga? I dint even suggest or said anything good about saga yet?

Years ago when Perodua claim that esc is not possible on Axia as it was not designed to, now Axia is equipped with esc. How true can manufacturer claim? Some hybrid car claim to have 2liter per km, but we are talking about real usage here as a owner and user, not a test car.

Don't know why PROTON trigger you so much, maybe I should use KIA as example next time.

Giving 6 airbag esc , good handling, quality build, selling at 51k with tax.!!!

Hello guys.. i'm new here

i have some questions regarding my car...

when i turn on the air cond and at the same time the car was moving.. suddenly the auto start/stop is not functioned at all. but when turned off the air cond, it will function as usual. it's really weird. seriously i have no idea what is going on.

have you guys ever experienced this issue??

just chill bro, don't take it so seriously. Regret could be something in relative. you may never know. take an example, i regret buying a bezza advance with 47k price tag when i saw a cerato 2nd hand with similiar price tag. Nothing wrong right?

Another example, i regretted buying proton saga premium with 40k when i have my boot fully loaded when my father's bezza able to get all those stuffs in easily.

Just don't get too overreacted. Nothing much to bitch about for such a word.

Say good FC also cannot? Really WTF with this guy.

Say saga will break down time to time still cannot.

Lols? Then still twist my word from nowhere?

Putting emotional conclusion on my wording? I am confusing reader when I say all the truth?

You win all , I lose, I give up. Say whatever you want, I wrong , I noob , I loser.

Let me say a fair statement here. Those who think regret or glorify other than bezza car, pls sell off your bezza and stop commenting here. It seem this forum has begin like a call of duty warfare.

If you wish to give constructive comment or good about bezza, at least pls shut off your mouth and stop typing. Of coz people are free to comment as he/she wants but dont you think awkward when you comment negatively while you are driving bezza yourself???

So pls sell off your bezza now and quit from this forum. We dont welcome pessimist people or negative thinking fella.

Just now going 300km/h at nkve, so damn stable lols, even cornering at 180km/h no problem at all.