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andrew9292
post Aug 14 2019, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 14 2019, 11:30 PM)
nice one bro. another observation is the blue light went off at 50C sharp. About your LTFT and STFT, it means that your engine think that your AFR is too rich so it lean it out. I'm kinda surprised that the o2 sensor took so long time to learn though.
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I think fuel trim still manageable problem bro, n read that LTFT concern start when it exceed +10%... O2 sensor will try a few relearn procedure found on google. Many state need some highway runs at stable constant speed. So far only did mostly city driving... Most takut the gearbox, my gearbox got history of sounds and thuds, previously solved at sc by adjusting linkage cable, until now.. The sound is like a fingernail tapping lightly on concrete wall at 2 > 3 shift

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vinnyming
post Aug 15 2019, 11:49 AM

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post Aug 15 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Aug 14 2019, 11:41 PM)
I think fuel trim still manageable problem bro, n read that LTFT concern start when it exceed +10%... O2 sensor will try a few relearn procedure found on google. Many state need some highway runs at stable constant speed. So far only did mostly city driving... Most takut the gearbox, my gearbox got history of sounds and thuds, previously solved at sc by adjusting linkage cable, until now.. The sound is like a fingernail tapping lightly on concrete wall at 2 > 3 shift
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i kinda suspect your o2 sensor might be having a slight issue of getting the right reading (accuracy issue). Maybe the o2 sensor heater element deteriorated.

if your car still in warranty coverage, still no need so worried about. On and off my bezza's gearbox having some thud sound as well. It happens usually when i hesitated on the throttle when the gearbox doing gear change (probably the ECU and TCU trying to figure out what the heck i'm doing laugh.gif ). Other than that, it still ok.
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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 15 2019, 03:08 PM)
i kinda suspect your o2 sensor might be having a slight issue of getting the right reading (accuracy issue). Maybe the o2 sensor heater element deteriorated.

if your car still in warranty coverage, still no need so worried about. On and off my bezza's gearbox having some thud sound as well. It happens usually when i hesitated on the throttle when the gearbox doing gear change (probably the ECU and TCU trying to figure out what the heck i'm doing laugh.gif ). Other than that, it still ok.
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Thanks bro. Today did a highway run for an hour, Damansara > Rawang > Damansara. It's in completed state now. But after that the fuel trim now at idle seem to be compensating more at +12% total to get 14.7:1 AFR... Probably test a week more see got improve, otherwise really need to start diy checks.

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Yah, the gearbox really annoying, previously got a significant thud when release throttle at 40kmh ( 2 > 3 shift ). In the end at Perodua kepong maluri, they change the ATF twice and they adjust the gear knob linkage, solved. They did use their scantool to check any problem code but not sure if they did other things. Warranty is one thing la, but this SC was the fourth one i went to that actually dealt with the problem. Even some huge Perodua SC had the 'biasala, pakai dulu' attitude. Some even ask if i try Proton or Honda CVT, and say that those are way worst mad.gif


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post Aug 16 2019, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(andrew9292 @ Aug 15 2019, 10:41 PM)
Thanks bro. Today did a highway run for an hour, Damansara > Rawang > Damansara. It's in completed state now. But after that the fuel trim now at idle seem to be compensating more at +12% total to get 14.7:1 AFR... Probably test a week more see got improve, otherwise really need to start diy checks.

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Yah, the gearbox really annoying, previously got a significant thud when release throttle at 40kmh ( 2 > 3 shift ). In the end at Perodua kepong maluri, they change the ATF twice  and they adjust the gear knob linkage, solved. They did use their scantool to check any problem code but not sure if they did other things. Warranty is one thing la, but this SC was the fourth one i went to that actually dealt with the problem. Even some huge Perodua SC had the 'biasala, pakai dulu' attitude. Some even ask if i try Proton or Honda CVT, and say that those are way worst mad.gif
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Can elaborate what is fuel trim +12%?

Mine I give up the warranty already, waste time going and need to argue, but no point argue if they tell you is it like that, mine they rectify the problem of Aircond and said 1 week will call when item arrived, now few week d.
For the yeeee sound at 90kmh been told standard operation, now I doubt abit after seeing your post.
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post Aug 16 2019, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:35 AM)
Can elaborate what is fuel trim +12%?

Mine I give up the warranty already, waste time going and need to argue, but no point argue if they tell you is it like that, mine they rectify the problem of Aircond and said 1 week will call when item arrived, now few week d.
For the yeeee sound at 90kmh been told standard operation, now I doubt abit after seeing your post.
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i think the yeee sound has no resolution. something similiar on my house alza gearbox as well and it is still running well. as usual, when nothing is broken that impedes the car functionality, sc will not entertain you. they will say it is normal. try to check out your lower arm bush, i bet it looks a bit rusty. I highlight to sc and they told me it is normal. while my house alza's lower arm bush still looks nice.
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post Aug 16 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 16 2019, 01:39 PM)
i think the yeee sound has no resolution. something similiar on my house alza gearbox as well and it is still running well. as usual, when nothing is broken that impedes the car functionality, sc will not entertain you. they will say it is normal. try to check out your lower arm bush, i bet it looks a bit rusty. I highlight to sc and they told me it is normal. while my house alza's lower arm bush still looks nice.
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Yes, mine do have but not as serious as the post last time.

I believe the new myvi will have similar problem.

Hopefully all these problem won't create anything big later. As the reason we bought Perodua.
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post Aug 17 2019, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 16 2019, 02:48 PM)
Yes, mine do have but not as serious as the post last time.

I believe the new myvi will have similar problem.

Hopefully all these problem won't create anything big later. As the reason we bought Perodua.
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maybe wait until someday got perodua cars with lower arm breaking down in the road then perodua will start to say that is an isolated case, like the famous alza torsion beam came off after accident issue. til now perodua didn't do any recall exercise to get the owners to go for a check. or maybe they diam diam doing it i don't know.
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post Aug 17 2019, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 17 2019, 10:02 AM)
maybe wait until someday got perodua cars with lower arm breaking down in the road then perodua will start to say that is an isolated case, like the famous alza torsion beam came off after accident issue. til now perodua didn't do any recall exercise to get the owners to go for a check. or maybe they diam diam doing it i don't know.
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We have only 2 choice at this price, Proton or Perodua, what to do. Maybe take leave go sit at sc to get the problem solve. If cannot solve, take leave drive all the way to another sc.
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post Aug 18 2019, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 17 2019, 10:19 AM)
We have only 2 choice at this price, Proton or Perodua, what to do. Maybe take leave go sit at sc to get the problem solve. If cannot solve, take leave drive all the way to another sc.
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you've got proton saga FL now.
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post Aug 19 2019, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 18 2019, 11:30 PM)
you've got proton saga FL now.
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now with a 4 speed auto!!

looking at geely's line up, i noticed that they dont have a small car segment...
guess the saga, persona/iris line up will be around for a while cos geely doesnt have anything better to replace them with.


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post Aug 19 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ Aug 19 2019, 11:54 AM)
now with a 4 speed auto!!

looking at geely's line up, i noticed that they dont have a small car segment...
guess the saga, persona/iris line up will be around for a while cos geely doesnt have anything better to replace them with.
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geely should have such models in their local line up i guess. the saga platform is old already, it surely need a replacement for next generation. iriz persona platform should be newer one, maybe derived from preve.

i don't think perodua will be sitting duck as bezza and Axia is approaching FL stage, probably Bezza Advance FL will have ASA (perodua do claim they will bring ASA to lower end models), 6 airbags, floating infotainment system, 6 speakers and LED lights without any changes to the price tag, once again Proton saga will be beaten. and perodua going to sell like hot cake again.
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post Aug 20 2019, 05:05 PM

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Always best to have choices...
More the better for us la..

Competition is always good for consumers.
If family mart didn't come to msia, then KK mart, 7-11, speed 99 will never step up their game and improve thinking that they are good for the par.
Now, we'll see improvements, and innovation, that would otherwise never happen.

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singk
post Aug 20 2019, 06:19 PM

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of course! perodua and proton will be keeping each other honest. Imagine without myvi, we still buying overpriced saga iswara; imagine without iriz, we won't be seeing myvi with ASA and 6 airbags. Without a hot cake honda city, we won't be seeing such a good speeced vios. It is good for us.
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post Aug 21 2019, 03:31 PM

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Hola!

I'll be getting my Bezza soon, and I have some questions on car care as this is my first ever car. I am familiar with the general rules like:

-Sending the car to SC on time (following the booklet or sticker on the windscreen)
- Checking coolant and tire pressure weekly

Very basic knowledge, and not one of those car enthusiasts/kaki. More of a get-car-drive-no-worry-except-put-petrol-and-send-service-on-time kind of person.

I've read up on things about push star cars, and something about a three-step-start method. Where you get in the car but don't step on the brakes, but push start button, to wake the car? Then only proceed with stepping on the brakes and starting the car? I came from the era of twist key ignition.

Appreciate all the pointers and advises if any from all the sifus and more experienced drivers!
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post Aug 21 2019, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(vinnyming @ Aug 21 2019, 03:31 PM)
Hola!

I'll be getting my Bezza soon, and I have some questions on car care as this is my first ever car. I am familiar with the general rules like:

-Sending the car to SC on time (following the booklet or sticker on the windscreen)
- Checking coolant and tire pressure weekly

Very basic knowledge, and not one of those car enthusiasts/kaki. More of a get-car-drive-no-worry-except-put-petrol-and-send-service-on-time kind of person.

I've read up on things about push star cars, and something about a three-step-start method. Where you get in the car but don't step on the brakes, but push start button, to wake the car? Then only proceed with stepping on the brakes and starting the car? I came from the era of twist key ignition.

Appreciate all the pointers and advises if any from all the sifus and more experienced drivers!
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A car is mainly to serve you and not the other way around. To start engine just pedal the brake and press push start. As easy as that. Dont listen to those mitos and hearsay, to me they are overly become a slave to the car.

Bezza is a good choice and you have made a good choice for yourself. Just drive and if you do send in the car to SC according the time frame, then you are safe and there will be no hiccup.

IF i buy a car just worry sound or whatever, wouldnt it a suffer then enjoyment of owning a new car? biggrin.gif

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post Aug 21 2019, 04:21 PM

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rule of thumb, follow the instruction given in owners manual. that will be the one that you follow.
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post Aug 22 2019, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(kratosgrab @ Aug 21 2019, 03:37 PM)
A car is mainly to serve you and not the other way around. To start engine just pedal the brake and press push start. As easy as that. Dont listen to those mitos and hearsay, to me they are overly become a slave to the car.

Bezza is a good choice and you have made a good choice for yourself. Just drive and if you do send in the car to SC according the time frame, then you are safe and there will be no hiccup.

IF i buy a car just worry sound or whatever, wouldnt it a suffer then enjoyment of owning a new car? biggrin.gif
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Thanks mate for the advice. As you have said, buying the car for worry free driving. Just wondering if there were other heads up or petua orang-orang out there about car care haha.
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post Aug 22 2019, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(singk @ Aug 21 2019, 04:21 PM)
rule of thumb, follow the instruction given in owners manual. that will be the one that you follow.
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Totally agree with this. But are there other things that they may not have included in the owners manual?
Things that other users discovered and may help other users?
Thanks though!
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post Aug 22 2019, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(vinnyming @ Aug 22 2019, 10:32 AM)
Totally agree with this. But are there other things that they may not have included in the owners manual?
Things that other users discovered and may help other users?
Thanks though!
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those are precaution items, and issue faced by other owners that requires your attention.
trust me, if you follow everything written in owners manual, you will have a very good condition car.

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