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OPT
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 Oct 31 2018, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 31 2018, 10:38 AM) Reply from ASNB on my query on the exemptions by SC .. "ASNB will update our unit holders through supplementary prospectus latest by Dec 31, 2018, on the status/list of exemptions granted by the SC." AA Should any one here sees that in the coming supplementary, please share here. Thanks. BB Getting worried now. This is not like in the past where they updated the SC status much earlier in the coming year Master prospectus. Sudah write in... |
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 31 2018, 06:13 PM) Why don't write in and give a call to ask and clarify instead. Already given reply.. Look at previous post... They would announced it... |
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Oct 31 2018, 06:13 PM) When bursa crashes. We all suffer also. Index link counters.... Maybank, TM, TNB, IHH, Pchem etc. |
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kkk8787
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Oct 31 2018, 06:33 PM
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So u all continue top up or withold
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 31 2018, 05:32 PM) This could be a ploy by someone to spook the paranoids into freenzie selling so that they can accumulate. U sell sell sell n they buy buy buy. Confirmed its not me... Because I got limited bullets only.. Also m just sharing info only... No personal evil agenda involved  |
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propertyowner
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Oct 31 2018, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(OPT @ Oct 31 2018, 06:21 PM) Is the reply suffice? Or the question already challenged the status quo. |
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kkk8787
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Oct 31 2018, 06:40 PM
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Do we have power to alter asnb decision
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OPT
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Oct 31 2018, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(propertyowner @ Oct 31 2018, 06:38 PM) Is the reply suffice? Or the question already challenged the status quo. Up to interpretation... Looks like standard reply to me |
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vanitas
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Oct 31 2018, 06:56 PM
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They just rename and rebrand all the funds, and you expect them to give supplementary prospectus within a month? Wait till Dec only start worry la
Personally don't think it will changed to VP
1. ASB2 is expired only on 2020
2. Market may collapsed due to massive withdrawal
3. Impossible no early notice and no choice given to stay or cabut
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veera77
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Oct 31 2018, 07:47 PM
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I think there no need for ASNB to make a big shift to change FP to VP..
Actual accounting of FP, i believe should have taken account of real NAV...the FP accounting should be kind of consolidated accounting...
Wawasanβs real NAV should be easily 1.50...while ASM and AS1M real NAV i agree could be below 1.00 based on ASG fund NAV and performances..
in a way, VP is more transparent and dynamic compared to FP..
At least for VP, u could accumulate during bearish market at lower NAV...while FP u donβt have this opportunity...the only major downside is 5% SC...
This post has been edited by veera77: Oct 31 2018, 07:49 PM
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 08:03 PM
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Well if I remembered correctly...
ASM "real" NAV easily rm1.03/unit
ASW I think around 1.05
AS1M donno....
Someone posted it.. Let me search if I can get the link later...
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saitong09
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Oct 31 2018, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(veera77 @ Oct 31 2018, 04:48 PM) temporarily can dump into mortgage or FD, till ASNB release the SC decision... at least can earn 4-5% Share market, up up |
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MGM
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Oct 31 2018, 08:37 PM
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FP>VP>Panic redemption>ASNB sells bluechips to pay>KLSE collapse>All Retirement funds collapse>Every voters affected.
Nobody will allow or want this to happen. Stop being paranoid.
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Oct 31 2018, 06:56 PM) They just rename and rebrand all the funds, and you expect them to give supplementary prospectus within a month? Wait till Dec only start worry la Personally don't think it will changed to VP 1. ASB2 is expired only on 2020 2. Market may collapsed due to massive withdrawal 3. Impossible no early notice and no choice given to stay or cabut Supplementary prospectus would be available around January only.. Then we shall know SC extended or not.. Master Prospectus would out around June 2019... |
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5p3ak
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Oct 31 2018, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(dlttdltt @ Oct 31 2018, 04:29 PM) 1,000,000 rm1/unit = RM 1,000,000 1,000,000 rm0.90/unit = RM 900,000 So if it drops 10 cents , we will just lose 100k just like that on 1st Jan 2019 ? but just unrealized loss right? Correct me if I'm wrong  |
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vanitas
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Oct 31 2018, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 31 2018, 08:50 PM) Supplementary prospectus would be available around January only.. Then we shall know SC extended or not.. Master Prospectus would out around June 2019... Where is the date comes from? I thought they can give the prospectus anytime after approved by sc. |
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vanitas
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Oct 31 2018, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:27 PM) Does it mean conversion from fp to vp can be done anytime after 31/12/18? Isnβt there a notice to inform before implementation fp > vp? Imagine 1m holdings become 500k ππ There must be a notice, with time given to choose stay or withdraw, otherwise you can go protest already. Even just a rename which affect no one they announce it like few weeks earlier. Stop being paranoid for nothing. |
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vanitas
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Oct 31 2018, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Vibe007 @ Oct 31 2018, 09:36 PM) Anything can happen now. They will have a way which protect themselves . No matter how terrible is your rant ,you are still at losing end Then you better sell sell sell |
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nexona88
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Oct 31 2018, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Oct 31 2018, 09:29 PM) Where is the date comes from? I thought they can give the prospectus anytime after approved by sc. based on previous years Master prospectus... I donno when they summit to SC & they give aprovals.. PNB won't publish such info for public... anyhow maybe next year master prospectus out in January?? |
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Oct 31 2018, 10:23 PM
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who want keluar dipersilakan.
and please use some brain can or not.
not say that I def asnb. but think of the previous ASN1 when they convert, they give investor time to think either to stay or leave.
don't know want to say how many time.
somehow I think this is not rocket science to have this logic.
you think this asnb so big company, they give investor to do overnight decision? ever hold some counter that give you letter for you to vote? never?
now also v10. thread from v4 till now same old shit.
mature abit can?
discussion is allow. but spreading lies isn't.
for those who think they will covert FP to VP in a very short notice until you don't have time to go bank and do stuff..... you can sell all. and sleep well.
and continue with your FD.
This post has been edited by [Ancient]-XinG-: Oct 31 2018, 10:24 PM
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