Noted Tq, for the reply and explanation

1. Budget : < rm5k or around
2. Usage : working, programming, youtube, fb, not gaming
3. Requirements : portability, ultra book, light/thin, longer battery life, can flip, can detachable like microsoft surface book is better

Max weight in kg and min battery life in hours?
Mind low sRGB display and non-upgradable RAM?

battery: 8 hours
weight: no fix
display and ram slot is optional, got then better, if not does not matter
i think display usually is 13.3

thank you

battery: 8 hours
weight: no fix
display and ram slot is optional, got then better, if not does not matter
i think display usually is 13.3

thank you

Thanks. looking into it as well.

What are your views on Thinkpad L series 380 / 480? L series or E series better?

I'm not using laptop on daily basis, usually 3-5 days/week and not playing games, is it worth to buy Thinkpad T480?

Okay , here is the simple thing

E series = Consumer series - Basically you get okayish build quality with their good keyboard + trackpoint

L series = It's a step-up from E series. You get some of the things from the expensive thinkpad like better build quality , MIL spec , spill proof

T series = Legendary series - It's best of the best that one can afford and to buy


So to be honest it depends how long you want the laptop to last. If you want it to be super long , consider T/L series. If you are on a budget , E series would do the trick

Mind low sRGB display? (less vibrant colours)

So I read that E is just a consumer series with Thinkpad label. While L is more like 20% of the T series, which makes me wondering if its really worth it getting E4xx over the Ideapad, Swift 3, Matebook or Spin series.

Read that E series is improved now, and consumer series is improving too? But when I search Thinkpad quality equivalent, people still recommend Thinkpad. Any explanation for this?

True, E series is consumer series, but the build quality is still good compared to other good consumer models

E series is just improved over normal consumer laptop. It's for prosumers and want the legendary Thinkpad look and feel + the keyboard

L series is more like 60% of it . The reason why people say get Thinkpad is that you can easily upgrade some of the things yourself without voiding the warranty and plus you can find spare parts easily to replace it. It's designed for enterprise use - so you know companies dont change laptop every 2 years

Hi,

Need help to make a decision.

Illegear Prodigy
Illegear Rogue
Level 51 Forge 15.

All are using latest 9th gen CPU. Prodigy and Rogue come with GTX1660ti, while Forge 15 is paired with RTX2060. The price and weight are fine.

Which models has better build and thermal?

Thank you.

a bit, but nvm
spec and price is main concern

Thank you sifu!

this definitely will help me clear my mind

Wait for reviews first. Both Illegear models use TongFang chassis while Forge 15 is Clevo NH57. If I have the time I'll do reviews on them

13 inch+convertible+good display:
Lenovo Thinkpad L390 Yoga, L380 Yoga - upgradable RAM
HP Spectre x360 13-AE089TU / 13-AP0044TU
Lenovo Yoga 730 13 customize (can configure 16GB RAM)
Acer Spin 5 SP513-53N-52HJ, SP513-52N-58QD

Thank you for conforming this. I'll try to customize the L series first and compared with other laptop that you recommended in the previous post. For unknown reason, I'm really hooked by the Thinkpad although I admit the design is quite boring when compared to others.

Thank you for detail explanation regarding L series > E series in your previous post too. What you mentioned above really make sense to me.

The reason I'm very fussy this time because my previous Inspiron 5437 caused me quite issue. The plastic casing suddenly crack few months out of the factory. Somehow I admire their superb warranty service, they replace the casing on the spot after complaint. Then the CPU fan stop working after few years causing overheating issue. Not sure if its my fault for swapping the RAM which I done many times in other laptop and computer, there's an electrical spark + fire + smoke at the power plug slot.

And that's how I kinda interested with business series laptop. But again I'm typing this from my wife's old Asus A43S. It's thick, bulky, heavy, and the OEM battery last less than 2 hours, still it served me well and proved me consumer laptop is not that bad considering luck is on our side. Ironically, I used to avoid Asus due to the slow service at Kuching, but that was years ago.

Business laptop design is boring, but they have better QC except for low end models like Thinkpad E (Not as good as before though, even high end business laptops will have QC issues. Still better than consumer laptops)

Noted... I don't mind the design as long I can get a decent build, and maybe on par spec or a tad below. I think QC is beyond our control.

BTW may I know what do you mean with above line? Referring to E series or generalized to business laptops.

This post has been edited by diaBoliQu3: Apr 26 2019, 08:20 PM

Ok. Thank you.