Personally I would opt for Thinkpad. Since you've mentioned long term. I am assuming that the price is around RM 4000 or so

Consider T-series or X280 , sure you'll not get the best specs for that price but Thinkpads are known to be durable and lasts pretty long.....

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...s/p/22TP2TT480S

Hows the ideapad build quality ?

Personally I would opt for Thinkpad P-series , those aren't cheap but I would say you could say that PC easily would last....are you willing to spend it

Or if you don't mind , you can go for consumer level , but normally for your workload - you would nee business/prosumer level

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...2/p/22WS2WPWP72

Removed v28 , pinned this one

Err , get the one from Lenovo as you add RM 1 for extra 2 year warranty

CAD stuff normally works best with Quadro. GeForce can still do the work , but then again Quadro would normally igve the boost

You can pick a good 13" 2012/2013 MacBook Pro.....

Try Carousell , but you need to scout and look at the condition of the device la...a bit ma fan


Thinkpad E585

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksc2LSyO8vs

T series , E series is basically consumer level like ZM Fong pointed out. So my recommendation is to go for T-series, you could easily upgrade and it's pretty durable laptop
Personally i would pick T series , if you need recommendation try reddit thinkpad subforum




Lenovo were the first ones to allow Ryzen . So far I checked out some youtube vidoes , gives you some decent performance for the price.

What sort of programs do you run ?


One is consumer and one is geared towards enterprise

Yes , it is better built - at least you get the iconic thinkpad keyboard

It does get warm when you do certain tasks , but mostly if it is going to be on a desk , it is fine. The T480 is on its own class , its premium and you can easily upgrade it (lets say two months down the road , you want to add a 4G card , it can be done , or upgrade the ram , it can be done...replace the screen with 4K screen...it can be done


MX150/RX550X is way better vs UHD 620 if you are talking about gaming. Now it boils down to do you need a dedicated GPU or not....if no , save the money - get the built in GPU , if you think you need because you play some games from time to time , i say get the dGPU

Actually E480 is also okay (if you go reddit for thinkpad - got people who buy them - they are okay just htat you don't get the full thinkpad build quality la) . E480 can be upgraded

T480 can be easily upgradable and it's the last thinkpad (T490) that you can upgrade/change the battery , screen , even the keyboard. The beauty part of is the warranty wouldnt be voided. Thinkpad is the only laptop that dont put a seal to say warranty void at the back cover


You buy the parts and pasang sendiri (got manual) , upgrade ones they can do but it costs a bomb.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/ <-- join the community and look how durable Thinkpad are ....

Try this , refurebished...should be powerful enough for your needs...battery life is questionable
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/116-leno....16389.126158.0

9570 battery lasts longer . All the tests shows that , anyway to be fair it needs to be compared apple to apple


however i5 with FUll HD screen can easily get 8hrs on battery life (surfing with minimum brightness)

If you really want on after/sales service support and to easily replace the parts (aka taobao) shopping - opt for Thinkpad or Dell XPS business series.
Normally business laptops have spare parts for a longggggg time and you can easily find them - because generally big companies don't change laptop every year or two years - it's like every 5 years or so

https://www.lenovo.com/my/en/laptops/thinkp...5/p/22TP2TEE585

Now it's an AMD , but it's still alright if you care about after sales/service/parts or what-not

E480 with 8GB of RAM ,

I did a E480 configuration with Core i7 - , 8GB of RAM (E480 still have the memory to be user replaceable , so in the future you can add 8GB extra and get 16GB)

Its the last E series that can be upgraded , before the whole new soldered ones

Get the T580 - It's the last series of Lenovo T-series that can be truly upgraded. Plus it's a true laptop

Loving my Thinkpad

No - becoming like Macs already - one time use. A lot of people buy Thinkpad because you could easily upgrade/keep it for long time. Now it looks like one time user only

The Ryzen is okay (I know ZM Fong would go like OH NOES...). Personally it does an okay job and the Ryzen GPU is good. Some dude managed to get Final Fantasy to work on 1080p with respectable settings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLmgmEW_FoQ

Plus it's a thinkpad.....


Strange....only internal GPU - guess lenovo malaysia didn't wanna carry with MX150...Oh well

I am using one right now , any questions to ask ?

FHD , didn't get the 4K cause my work laptop was using 1080p on 12.5" , all soo small , scaling is horrible.....

Battery Life - 1st cycle getting 5hrs...i think need to run couple of tests....

I am using the i7 right now , it's freaking hot...plus the CPU gets throttled , so while you play games , you might get good fps , suddenly it will just dip.....had to undervolt.
Our weather + i7 does not go well.....I should have picked the i5 and pimped up the SSD to 1TB

Depends you doing light work or not The issue is that if you can control the heat , the i7 would be much more faster without thermal thorttling at shitty speeds...

I bought i7 due to future proof but would have kept the i5 with all the cores working max without getting nerfed to the max

VMWare etc, better pimp up the ram to 16 ,(i am using 16gb right now)