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Home Networking WiFi Router Discussion Thread, Updated for 2023

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post Apr 22 2021, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(hxleo1 @ Apr 22 2021, 03:19 PM)
Hi Sifus, need some advice on routers.
currently on time wifi using their mesh wifi Huawei Edge ONT, but facing trouble having signal inside my bedroom (2 bedroom apartment, router placed in living room).

Speed is fast and stable in the living room but deteriorates when its inside the room.
Would getting another better router like TPLinks AX20 or AX10 solve the issue? Suspect its the thick concrete wall blocking the signals

any advice?
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Install a wifi analyzer app on your phone and see if you have overlapping channels with your neighbours.
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post Apr 23 2021, 06:06 AM

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QUOTE(StevenL @ Apr 23 2021, 12:30 AM)
Sifu
Is this the best channel for setting both bands to avoid congestion? Thanks
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You have plenty of competition for bandwidth! For 5Ghz can you set a higher channel above 100 in your router?
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post May 5 2021, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(boss82 @ May 5 2021, 02:21 PM)
if change new router can make wifi 2.4ghz support 100mbps ?

bacause now the wifi 2.4ghz maximum speed lock at 30mbps only
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Depends what your devices support, if they can use 802.11n then theoretically yes. With wifi there are many variables as most people find out, one major issue is if you have a lot of neighbours also using wifi, so you'll all be competing for airtime. Most likely you can never achieve the specification maximum. Normal advice is to reduce 2.4Ghz channel width to 20MHz as there is so much congestion as this reduces the amount of overlap with your neighbours.

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post May 12 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(ksuuk @ May 12 2021, 02:59 AM)
AX50 is Intel based failed test, so avoid.

In the terms of wifi coverage, the logic say's that bigger or more antennas means better coverage. Also many manufactures home wifi routers are looking like hedgehogs, but in same time their mesh devices and access points doesn't have external antennas at all. Seems, that manufactures are pushing users to use mesh systems, as I have lately tested Huawei AX3 and Asus RT-AX55 wifi6 routers, but despite their big antennas, the coverage was very bad, in the area, where TP-Link C80 (4 external antennas) and Mikrotik cAP (small internal antennas) had full bars, Huawei and Asus lost signal completely.
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Don't relate the number & size of antenna to signal strength, it's like counting the exhaust tailpipes on cars ... many are just for show.
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post Jun 14 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Jun 14 2021, 03:04 PM)
Anyone uses Xiaomi AX3600 here? The coverage is alot smaller compared to the free router given by Unifi 😅

Staying at a double storey
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From a search, Openwrt is available for this model. No doubt it would be an improvement over Xiaomi firmware.

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post Jul 8 2021, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(ksuuk @ Jul 8 2021, 05:50 PM)
Mikrotik includes all needed functionality, but does not support wif6 and wifi5 is very slow.

I have tested Huawei, TP-Link, Asus WiFi6 routers and despite their big external antennas, the coverage was very bad, in the area, where Mikrotik, with small internal antennas have full bars, Huawei, Asus and TP-Link lost signal completely.

And like I said, manufactures are pushing users to use mesh systems, so future routers are mainly just dummy base stations for the mesh devices. And I don't think that VLAN are only for the advanced users, as separating IOT devices from the users network is a common and good security practice. And how can You find out which device is taking most of the bandwidth without graphs? Or how can You manage internal bandwidth without bandwidth management. One hungry/infected device in internal network can prevent other devices act properly.

The fact that manufactures consider users stupid, is very worrying.
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I've got to agree with some of your statements. Seems that manufacturers are trying to lock you in with their proprietary mesh systems.

Also the use of phone apps to configure routers introduces another security issue; advice that I read is not to allow access to the routers admin interface and console from the WAN. I've seen reports of people opening the web interface on their router to find it has been changed to Korean for instance.
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post Jul 11 2021, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(paraben @ Jul 11 2021, 12:23 PM)
Hi all,

Seeking your kind advise for the below:
Unifi package : 100 Mpbs
Coverage : internet is shared by 2 units of storey house with 1000 sq ft

Current setup
Modem: TM modem
Router: TP Link WR1043ND

Issue: To improve wireless internet connection at the next door unit. Router is placed at house A, house B wireless only able to achieve top download 50 mbps and upload 30 mpbs.

My options are
1. Get a mesh wifi at next door and hopefully improve the speed
2. Upgrade current package to 300 mpbs and stay with the existing setup
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Are houses A & B adjacent terraced houses?

If you're sharing 1 internet feed, it would be better to have a router in the house with the internet connection and another router in house B configured as an access point (AP) connected to the router in house A either by WiFi or ethernet or use mesh.

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post Jul 26 2021, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(szecheng @ Jul 26 2021, 10:16 AM)
what kind of coverage issue?

so china firmware will have full signal, global firmware will have less signal
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Asus routers set regional parameters in the CFE, the firmware is not regional. I don't know about other manufacturers.
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post Jul 27 2021, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Alan Yee @ Jul 26 2021, 11:44 PM)
Thanks again.
So at the end, it is still falling into the chasing game, depend how much I would like to spend to get better WiFi experience, not just about the specs number.

I am just blaming on the industry, we all are just consumers.
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One problem is that there are too many variables to give a definitive answer, which is best.
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post Aug 24 2021, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(tnsai @ Aug 23 2021, 10:16 PM)
Ah ok thanks.. seems not too much of a bump. Will look into it thanks.

Oh I installed merlin wrt on my current router, the aimesh feature should work the same also right ? (just saw some videos seems like aimesh different from my friend's  airties mesh network.. no need to wire connection one mesh to router first)
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You can use either ethernet cable or wifi for the backhaul connection to the router. Using cable will give more throughput to the clients.
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QUOTE(tnsai @ Aug 23 2021, 10:16 PM)
Ah ok thanks.. seems not too much of a bump. Will look into it thanks.

Oh I installed merlin wrt on my current router, the aimesh feature should work the same also right ? (just saw some videos seems like aimesh different from my friend's  airties mesh network.. no need to wire connection one mesh to router first)
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Aimesh works the same, it's a closed source from the official Asus firmware. Recommend that you install the Diversion addon to block ads on your network.
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post Aug 26 2021, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(sicklad77 @ Aug 26 2021, 09:06 AM)
Hi, need advice and do bear with me. I’m still noob and trying to figure out the lingos as well.

isp : unifi 300mbps
Router : ac66u (4 years old)
AP : deco m4 (free from unifi)
House : 3200sqft
Devices connected : 15x (tv,phones,pc,ipcamera etc)

so my asus router is connected on my ground floor and my M4 is on the second floor connected via lan cable and settings change to AP mode.

before this I’m able to get 300mbps on downstairs but now I’m only getting less than 30mbps downstairs even standing next to the router.
It’s only after I disconnect the 2.4ghz then reconnect then I’m getting the full speed.
I’m suspecting that since I’m using same settings and name for the wifi, if I’m at the ground floor it is still connected to the upstairs M4 and does not auto-connect to the router.
How to fix this? Should I buy a wifi6 router to fix this??
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Maybe they're using the same WiFi channels. Have run site survey on the Asus router, it's under the WiFi category.
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post Sep 29 2021, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 29 2021, 01:55 PM)
5 Ghz Wifi signal drops for just 2-3 seconds, very brief and then ok again. Been happening like once in an hour. Is it a sign that router is dying?

No issue on wired connection.

Router is Asus RT-AC86U, about 3 years old.
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Any idea what the temperature of the CPU and wifi chips is?

AC86U is famous for overheating (above 100 deg).
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 29 2021, 03:24 PM)
2.4 Ghz : 47 degC
5 Ghz : 55 degC
CPU : 60 degC

Running on Merlin firmware and I even put the twin fan kit on it, 1 week after I bought the router.
Been working great though. Months of uptime without disconnection, both LAN & wifi. Only last week I notice the intermittent connection on wifi, LAN is still good.
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Nothing from the log to give a clue?

I've found the latest Merlin firmware on my AC68U to be very stable.
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QUOTE(kiwijuice @ Oct 13 2021, 03:31 PM)
Hi all sifu,

I am thinking to replace my wifi router as it is giving some connection issue these 2 months. I found that there is intermittent high ping when doing ping test to the router IP via WIFI.

some info:
- current wifi router: Asus RT-N14UHP. 1 router cover entire house
- double story around 38*45
- i am happy with the current coverage with just this 1 router. So i hope i can replace with another 1 that do the same. If possible, i will try to avoid doing mesh
- budget: around RM 500 - RM 800
- device connected to Wifi: Most of the time, maximum of 2 laptop and 5 mobile phone. TVBox currenting using Ethernet connection
- Unifi 300mbps

seeking advice for:
- which model i should replace my current RT-N14UHP to? I have tried to search in the lowyat price list, and found RT-AC86U and RT-AX3000 within the budget range.
- any advice about the different on these 2 model and which one i should go for? my main concern is about the coverage area should be as good as my current RT-N14UHP.
- if you have other brand/model to recommend, please do so.

Thank you very much : )
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You can use either of the routers you quote and use your existing router in AP mode, if you find you need better coverage in some part of your home.
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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Oct 31 2021, 09:51 PM)
i want to replace my current wifi to use aimesh, wondering which is a better choice for 4 storey house range (main base is on lowest ground floor.)

Also unfortunately I cannot run wired backhaul, thats why thinking of upgrading to the triband type. The top floors mostly connected devices are phone and ipads. Only ground floor where laptops and tv will be connected to the main unit.

2 units x ZenWiFi AX (XT8)
+ working with my existing 3x AC67U (maybe can sell one or 2 units)

or

2 units x zenwifi AX (xt8) + 1 unit AX86U
(and sell off all my existing 3x ac67u)
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What's the driver for this, the AC67U can run Aimesh? Maybe just upgrade your router and use the AC67U's as Aimesh nodes?

To be a true mesh you need more than 2 nodes.
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QUOTE(perfect10 @ Nov 3 2021, 05:07 PM)
TQ very much for the recommendation guys, will be getting one set to upgrade the base router then use the old ones as node instead.  Just wondering if compare XT8 vs AX92U twin packs, which set is the better choice? Seems like the pricing for both is not so much apart but some reviews says the AX92U is much better.
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AX86U is a WiFi6 router that gets a lot of recommendations on SNBForums.

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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Feb 16 2022, 02:12 PM)
House type: Landed 2 storey
Size of house: Square feet 20x65 | 20x50 (built-up) and number of floor :2 floors
Features required: Stability is the priority
Number of devices connected to WiFi: 9devices at max, typically 6 devices
Internet Speed: Unifi100 Mbps (planning to upgrade to 300 Mbps in near future)
Budget: To be decided

Problem :
Currently having TP-Link Deco M4 (2 pack). 1st primary is located at 1st floor. 2nd slave Deco is located at the 2nd floor living hall (just after the staircase).

Both my wife and myself are working at the 2nd floor (myself working at the 2nd floor living hall which is nearby to the slave Deco while my wife is working in one of the room which is 12 feet away without any wall obstruction as she keeps the door open)
The problem is she is having frequent connection problems while running massive data processing from her company server with VPN. I myself is having frequent disconnection with VPN as well.

Just to check, what will be the best setup for stability performance ?
Am researching around and seems Asus AiMesh (RT-AX86U + RT-AX55U) is offering premium stability performance.

Any inputs are much appreciated.

Note :
1. Have try reset both Deco multiple times
2. Have try delete the Deco network and configuring again multiple times
3. 2nd floor do not have any ethernet port so the secondary mesh must be connected to primary wirelessly.
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When you say you're having 'frequent disconnection problems', are these between the PC and the Router/AP? It could be a compatibility problem between the PC driver software, if your PC has an Intel WiFi chipset, you could try downloading the Intel Proset software directly from Intel (assuming you have admin rights to install software on your PC).
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QUOTE(Milo_O @ Feb 18 2022, 04:27 PM)
Hi,
The "frequent disconnection problems" is between laptop to the Deco slave unit.
I have downloaded the Intel Proset software to update my laptop network adapters (currently using Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC-8265) to the latest version 22.110.1.

Let's hope this update will solve the frequent disconnection issue.
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Also update your router & AP firmware if they're not on the latest version.
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post Feb 22 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(BTS1501 @ Feb 22 2022, 09:04 AM)
AP = wired repeater

Both AP/repeater can be configured same ssid as main router, but the roaming may not be as good as mesh solution.
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If you have only 2 mesh routers then they are working as as a router/AP combination. For true mesh you need at least 3 mesh wifi routers in your network.

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