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Omochao
post Jan 29 2024, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(realventis @ Jan 29 2024, 09:34 PM)
guys.. what is current unifi model router they offer? still TPLink C200?
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Fiberhome - ax1800/ax3000
Dlink- x1860z/3060

Have yet to see anyone getting tp link ax model.


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post Jan 29 2024, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 29 2024, 01:36 PM)
I prefer the router and client auto switch themselves XD

Further range auto switch to 2.4Ghz and vice versa

While most of my IoT using guest network with 2.4Ghz for stable link

Wait XE75 come and see how adjust later  tongue.gif

Only issue is my x20 is v1 which does not support IoT network (only v3 and v4) which is a bummer for early adopter  doh.gif
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And this is one big problem with Tp-link or their subsidiary Mercusys devices that they make.

Too many versions of a device with slight alterations due to hardware/chips supply.

And I took one 2 days to fully compared the different hardware versions of x20 and x50, reasons being ,I'm interested with the IoT network, signal source, connection preference . And lately they added ECO mode to it but only on V3 and above for x20 deco.

Imagine a normal user, they won't even ask dealer/vendor about this as they don't even know in the first place. And by the time you get it and open it up, is already too late to realize about the firmware differences, hopefully those features will come to v2 and v1.

Deco x10 is the worst..totally cut off from future supports for now
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post Jan 30 2024, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 30 2024, 08:37 AM)
Yea, hate to have these v1,v2 things unless u ask the seller to check before buy (online)
Physical store can directly check the box there.

Not only TP-Link actually, some of those IoT brand example bulb and wall plug also having these issue of different hardware version and support differ firmware.
Such as the Matter compatibility right now, the compatibility lists mentioned this model is supported but hardware ID not support  puke.gif  doh.gif

Deco x10 basically is a normal + cutoff version of all deco with less feature.
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From what I've gathered online, TP-link got many factories all over the world, chips supply is not consistent or they never keep stock on hold for production.
Also due to certain region wifi power limit regulations, they need to adjust base on that region. So in the end, come out with many types of hardware revisions.

Yes, I even read some complained about Tapo cameras with the later versions had bad microphone sound, but the older ones is better mic but slower processing hardware.

Hopefully they can at least standardize it more in the future even with different hardwares.

Feels bad for those early buyers of Deco X10, device is great, but the lack of firmware update support is terrible. If they can't handle it, why don't just release the source code and allow the community to cook up a good customized firmware of decos.
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post Jan 30 2024, 09:24 AM

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https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/kb/detail/412754

https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/621608

This is a must read for those who are going to venture into TP-Link lineup, at least you know which hardware you should go for before committing into buying it.

At the very least, you won't have a headache of missing out functions or disappearing options due to different hardware revisions when setting up different mesh in a network.
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post Jan 30 2024, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Jan 30 2024, 09:53 AM)
i'm currently using mercusys halo h80x. i couldn't figure out how to check how many hours have the device been connected to the internet...
does anyone know?
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Yes, Mercusys app lacking on this. Very basic and minimal straight forward orange red hue app. biggrin.gif Not even the login page too..

Perhaps you could do a screenshot and use the report function in the app to send in a support ticket, but be warn, the way of reply and style is somewhat confusing for us to decipher.

I think their support is run by a team of part timers mainland.

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post Jan 30 2024, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Jan 30 2024, 09:35 AM)
Let's just hope they continue support those v1 & v2 variants (technically early adopters or beta tester  sweat.gif )

Now i dunno which version i will get for my Deco XE75, lol..
Based on deco forum, it seems like v1 firmware more advance than v2 model.
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Is not that they dont want to support , is hardware limitations probably, and at the rate they are releasing new routers or mesh, is better to focus on newer products. Very China style of doing things, like how they always drop off support for 1/2 years old devices after launching. But if they follow xiaomi footsteps and churn out newer firmwares, that would also be another whole set of issues as xiaomi always release new firmware with new features, but one thing or another gets broken along the way and need to wait for another new update to rectify it.

I hope Tp-Link won't go down this way of doing things. Infact, I found out from other forums, their mesh source code is actually based on OpenWrt. Hope they can really make full use of it.
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post Feb 2 2024, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 08:19 AM)
So received my XE75 and it's a v1 :\

After done setup, feels like there one part downgrade which is :

1) X20 v1 has this home care: https://www.tp-link.com/us/homecare/ which is free and quite good to use (at least last time blocked me from certain site or ads)

2) XE75 now is Homeshield Subscription based and basic (free) doesnt even provide Malicious site blocking :\
3) XE75 also dun have speed test build in anymore  sweat.gif
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x50 and above all using homeshield..so unless you want free homecare basic, you need to change the main node x20, but then it seems like intentionally bottle necking your hardware.

have you try changing tp link region , europe,global,us and some other foreign country in english? i notice for example , x20 deco has different versions for each country despite same hardware versions. you can try playing around with that
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post Feb 2 2024, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 01:14 PM)
If using x20 as main deco then feels waste for my xe75 lol

Gonna test homeshield Trial 30 days first and see

Never try the region thing though. Under account?
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Yes, wasted a lot but that's the only way, for networking features and functions, really depends on which one you using for the main node.

Check with this link, different region , different firmware versions, also try to take note for hardware version.
https://www.tp-link.com/my/choose-your-location/
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post Feb 2 2024, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 02:33 PM)
Thanks for the region thing, i think mine xe75v1 is Global (English) with 1.2.9 now as Malaysia firmware is 1.2.8 only.

And there is v3 already, woot.

Suddenly i recall that yesterday when setting up the deco xe75
Initially i was adding new deco and wired XE75 to X20 (main) to activate the XE75

While X20 remain as Main, i remember i see that i can configure the 6Ghz band in the app
Not sure should i reverse my position now if i wan to continue use the HomeCare instead of HomeShield:

X20 (Main) wired to XE75 (Node and position in middle of the house) wireless to X20 (Node2)

What do i lose for this setup beside changing back to homeCare
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Hard to say , as I have yet to test out on my own neither do I own a pair of deco mesh. but if it works , then good choice, get to enjoy homecare, same speed and coverage, with 6ghz still can turn on.

but that doesn't means the x20 main node will be able to emit 6gnz.
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post Feb 2 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 2 2024, 04:50 PM)
Probably tonight test see. The main node will be in living room while XE75 will be covering from middle of the house and it's wired to main node plus i find that the signal of XE75 quite huge - few bulbs of mine like from way opposite of the living room can connect to it all of sudden.
However, the 6Ghz band if i rename same as 2.4/5Ghz band, my Wi-Fi 6E phone still more toward 5Ghz  sweat.gif Not sure is it due to 2.4/5Ghz is set to WPA2/WPA3 while 6Ghz can only select WPA3

Another thing to lose maybe is that it's actually is Tapo and Kasa IoT compatible - i can change my bulb and plug from Deco app right now if XE75 is main.
VPN server, i'm not using currently.
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afaik, bandsteering or smart connect only applies for 2.4ghz+5ghz, for 6ghz they put it under MLO, but only on Wifi 7.

not sure if Wifi6e router/mesh smart connect includes 6ghz as well or not?

by default, all tapo kasa is under tp link, should be compatible .
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post Feb 2 2024, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(g-string @ Feb 2 2024, 05:17 PM)
Hi all.

Need some advice as reading online got me more confused.

My house has a wired connection in all 9 rooms, and it's 3 floors. Size of one floor is around 3k sq ft +/-.

Currently running 5 different brand routers, only the main incoming router is an AC68U, the rest are the free routers from TM collected over the years biggrin.gif  Currently on the 800mb package.

Each router is wired, and running its own SSID.

Problem is I want to consolidate under one SSID, but with auto handoff ala MESH.

Reading online seems I dont need to get triband expensive mesh routers, just a dual band wifi 6E should be fine?  Since backhaul will be wired.

So question is if I dont need MESH since running wired, which router brand and model is decent and works well with Unifi?

Asus AiMesh seems decent? And can just add a new base router and re-use my AC68 as an AP, saving money? From what I read, its one base router and about 2-3 APs to cover the house?

From user experience, what is a decent base router and for AP? Looking to spend maybe 1-1.5k for all.

thanks v much.
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Get a router that come with bss coloring to reduce interference between AP clients. WiFi6 generation should suffice for you, the only thing good about WiFi6e, is the additional 6ghz band only, other than that not much of a big improvement from WiFi6.

Or else just go directly to WiFi7. but might go over your budget.

Since you have wired backhaul, just get TP-link line up routers, archer ax90 or ax 73, 3 of them, settle 1 whole floor. There might be some small wifi dead zone, then consider using your old routers as a wireless repeater to extend that last mile range.
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post Feb 3 2024, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 3 2024, 05:33 PM)
My kasa no issue to link with deco but Tapo can detect but unable to add into deco, not sure why

Also dunno why the notification of the deco always double pop out (one thing connect) example, iPhone 14 connect, and deco will pop out

iPhone has joined xxxx network
iPhone has joined xxxx network

Quite frust

Another thing is I’m adding the Wi-Fi bulb and when prompt to join network, it will detect 3x of my SAME SSID  shocking.gif
Not sure are those main deco + 2x node deco
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Yes it is, back when I was using Mercusys Halo, it showed the same thing as well.

So I guess somehow it is the same for the mentioned above that when you joined a network, double notifications .

Just reselect the Wifi which has better signal strength as indicated in the list..that should be fine as it means is closer to the source.


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post Feb 4 2024, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 4 2024, 02:51 PM)
Maybe next time when free only redo everything lol.. I have like 80+ clients in the list now XD
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I'm using IoT network now ,so far so good...

Though I cant seem to find any difference with using main network..but nevermind...just leave it as it is.

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post Feb 5 2024, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 5 2024, 08:24 AM)
I haven't really transferred all my old IOT to IOT network.

Do you use the Homeshield btw?
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Homeshield?
All premium, so I didn't bothered with it, no kids, so no need supervision, surf at your own risk. biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 5 2024, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 5 2024, 05:12 PM)
Btw, what model you using ?
I see Wi-Fi Access Control which not yet release in my model (or won't?)

XE75 v1 also currently no support the force devices feature T__T while v2 i see can.

Regarding on the double notification, how you end up solve?
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X50 + X20

wifi access control is blacklist + whitelist mode . this year should be coming out. They even have eco mode for deco x50/x55 now..But after add in deco x20, the eco mode is gone because they haven't release the firmware yet for x20 malaysia..V4 has it.

Just turn off the notification, because I rename all connected device individually to check any outsiders.

Maybe you can send in a support ticket at tp link forums to report about that issue.

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post Feb 6 2024, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 6 2024, 08:21 AM)
I see.

Currently i think the latest one is 1.9.0 (1.3.0 or 1.6.0 by differ region)
The XE75 v1 of mine is 1.2.9 right now.
I want the Force Signal feature  sweat.gif

Though Deco good thing is the combination of differ model but sometime those feature also will be limited by Node units.
I changing my parent's one Deco M4R 2 packs by adding X20 (v1) as main and setting the Wi-Fi security to WPA2/WPA3.
Then when i add back the M4R the security macam haywired :\
Revert to WPA/WPA2 cause M4R doesn't support WPA3  doh.gif
So iphone will pop out saying "Wi-Fi security Weak" notification, lol..
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Check here to see if preferred signal source feature available for your device, if not, wait for the firmware update, should be coming soon.

Not much of a use especially for devices like mobiles that you need it to roam from one point to another point, this feature benefits IoT devices, or device that you won't move around like laptops/desktops or TVs. The only good thing about it, is that you can set your mobile devices to keep connecting to the 5Ghz mode.


https://www.tp-link.com/fi/support/faq/3480/

Yes, M4 deco is ac and supports up to WPA2 only, imo, WPA2 is enough, the better the security authentication method, the more power is needed to decrypt the password, hence why some devices (even those that supports WPA3) will face disconnection after some time.

Like one of my friend, who didn't know that his router turned on WPA3 by default, usually on first try, his devices can connect to the router without issue, by night time, the next day, everything is disconnected, and trying to connect back the WiFi will keep failing, initially he thought his router was defective and even called tech support to check, the support keep telling him to reset and reset port, but I came to help him, and set it back to WPA2, working until today, didn't need to restart at all.

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post Feb 7 2024, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 7 2024, 11:56 AM)
XE75 v1 is not in the list, man ..
Really hope TP-Link don't play with me by not giving those feature for "old" hardware model.

The force signal is good for those IoT
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It will come, but only they themselves can tell.

IoT devices like Tapo Cams/ LED bulbs, I didn't even change anything, just put it on auto for all signal and band selection. Because it can only go up to 2.4Ghz, no point changing it anyway. The only thing that I can think off is that I can set it to connect to another node.
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post Feb 7 2024, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Feb 7 2024, 12:37 PM)
Hello fellas,

quick question saja,

does the ASUS RT-AX3000 able to handle
the following:
- Maxis Home Fibre 2Gbps
or
- Unifi Home 2Gbps

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wireless maybe yes.
wired no , unless that router has a 2.5Gbps port.


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post Feb 7 2024, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 7 2024, 12:55 PM)
Mine sometime will jump node and connect further way lol
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which means is getting better signal coverage from that node.

Or else try power cycle the nodes to force it connect to the nearest ones.

Right now I've encountered an issue for my own network is that my deco x20 cannot register near device when I roam with my phone next to it. Other phones like xiaomi ,samsung and redmi, no issues..only my phone .

After resetting and even resetup the whole decos, nothing helps. Turning on and off for 2.4ghz+5ghz only also failed.


The only way is to turn off fast roaming protocol permanently i deco app, and now is functioning as normal.
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post Feb 8 2024, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(zioburosky13 @ Feb 8 2024, 09:51 AM)
If so,
what are the current options of routers capable of supporting 2Gbps wired connection on the market now?
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Plenty on the market, tp-link and asus already release it, WiFi 7 certified routers supports more than 2Gbps.
Or go for mikrotik like how they are doing it here in this thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4925452

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