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post Sep 19 2024, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(tiongkeat @ Sep 19 2024, 08:29 AM)
Noted, mean AX6000 will be my main router and ac5300 make it become mesh note
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if you dont mind seeing your phone hovering between Wifi 5 and Wifi6...then is fine.

But do check on it first before purchasing, not sure is both is able to mesh correctly...but as far as I know, as long got Asus AImesh..should work, maybe.
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post Sep 20 2024, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(james2306 @ Sep 20 2024, 05:06 PM)
Quick question..

Currently using 2x Deco M9 Plus with Unifi 500. About 15 devices connected at a time.

I have an Asus RT-AX53U which is a backup/extra unused router.

Current problem is system facing slowdown at mesh point with IP Cams located at porch mostly..ive had to move my mesh unit around to get stable connection.

Thinking of upgrading since its coming on 5 years.

Budget range 500-800 ish..

1) 1x Deco X95 (700ish)
2) TUF-AX6000(800ish)
3) TUF-AX4200(550ish)

Which of these combos would have a wider coverage?

Asus TUF AX4200/6000 + RT-AX53U

or

Deco X95 + Deco M9 Plus

Is the Tri-Band on the Deco setup better than the Asus setup?
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I am not sure whether does the Asus works with easymesh or not, but if I were you, I would try out using the WPS function to pair it with Deco. As my current setup using decos as main node and then pair to a ISP router which has easymesh.

All I did was click the WPS function on deco app, and then proceed next to holding the WPS button on my ISP router. it managed to pair but I chose it to be as a ethernet backhaul node. Or just use the WDS function and set it as another Wireless AP.

If you were to ask, I would suggest ASUS as their firmware has more settings to adjust with. Tp Link decos quite limited as they built it with simplicity.

With the current DNS saga and issues, only X50 has DoH DoT function, the other higher end decos have not receive updates yet but will come soon.

So for the safest bet, go for asus.

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post Sep 29 2024, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(sijun @ Sep 29 2024, 09:58 AM)
Would suggest i just add m9 instead of x50? considering both prices are quite similar currently which is why just thought of x50.
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No issues with roaming, as long you turn on the fast roaming option in the deco app, it will seamlessly register the clients from node to node .

However , this roaming protocol willl heavily depends on your device , why i say that? I have a oneplus 7t which is only up to 866mbps 5ghz wifi 5... been using official firmware on it and now custom firmware , the phone still having some hiccups roaming from one node to another node. it will still connect but not like my other wifi6 phone which you won't even notice the wifi signal degrade before changing stations. Only some times it will drop to very weak wifi signal and only then it will change .

Better go for decox50s, have more new features compared to m9.

and bear in mind, when you mix decos , you might lose out on some features. as some features requires the decos to be on same firmware platform.
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post Oct 3 2024, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 2 2024, 10:54 AM)
Anything from DLINK can use as master? And reuse original router as node?
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no, avoid dlink..avoid it even if its being sold with 50%...you don't want a useless junk
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post Oct 3 2024, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(enteraname1 @ Oct 3 2024, 04:33 PM)
hi.
need advice on my home network setup.
condo 1300+sqft 3 bedroom. <25device
currently using be230 router.  with 2gbps plan

bedroom1 & bedroom2, have good signal but
bedroom3 have weak signal as its the furthest away from the router.

how should i upgrade?
should i go be550 or be805 for easy mesh or go deco xe75 or any other recommendation ?
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do you need full speed? or just signal coverage?

If you don't mind having half the speed just minimal for normal usage then I would suggest getting a used router and place it near to bedroom 3 or just at the bedroom 3 itself.

be230 router supports wps , im pretty sure through the tp link app you can find the wps function. then just the wps function to pair with the router i suggest next.

what model should you get for a used router as a repeater? I recommend you Fiberhome Ax3000, plenty going on for rm100-120 . and is reliable enough for daily usage.

so far im pairing my 2 X50s with this fiberhome and working flawlessly, just that you might need to adjust some settings for it. but after that it will not give headaches or bugs.

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post Oct 4 2024, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(enteraname1 @ Oct 3 2024, 09:38 PM)
I usually wfh so I think sufficient signal is good enough.
I do have a spare c2300 router.
Budget wise, I think around 2k.
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you may try pairing the c2300 with your be230 and see if the wps method may work or not. but since c2300 is a wifi5 and easy mesh was only recently introduce for wifi6 ranges then i guess is either WDS or wireless ap. but that would reduce the speed by a big substantial . if not..just go for the same model or slight higher range of the be series.
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post Oct 10 2024, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(Human0719 @ Oct 6 2024, 09:38 AM)

2. I have a Fiberhome SR120-A that I brought from my home. I tried to set it up by myself, however I am not able to connect to the internet using it. Based on my searching online, I need to go into the Advanced Setup in the backend, but my Advanced Setup only has the Quality of Service (QOS) option. Those online guides and videos have the set up internet options in their Advanced Setup. Anyone used Fiberhome SR120-A before and know how to make the options appear?

Thanks in advance.
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By right should be able to...as TM personally modified fiberhome router firmware catered for their isp settings. have you tried search on youtube for the settings guide?

QUOTE(Exeunt @ Oct 8 2024, 12:11 AM)
Hi Experts, any cons of buying 2nd asus router on carousell? Anything i need to do other than reset?
Im using asus rt ax55

House is 1k sqft, drop signal in bedroom in betwren 2 walls,
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Only thing to worry is it still under warranty or is the device over heating..the only thing comes to my mind about Asus router that it overheats due to the performance of their routers .

If I were you, I would youtube search on how easy or easy to dismantle it. because I will either change or add in new thermal pads first thing first for their routers .
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post Oct 11 2024, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(honghongnet @ Oct 11 2024, 10:36 AM)
Hello Sifus,

2 story house, current using AX56u AX1800 as main (2nd Floor Center),
and AX55 at ground floor living hall center as Node.
Now facing outside car porch 3 x Wireless CCTV always show unstable network

Plan to upgrade or add on, got consider
1. Tuf AX6000 as main, AX56u and AX55 as node
2. XT8 Twin Pack Replace both old Router?

Or Sifus can advise better upgrade or setup? Tq very much
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try setting up another SSID 2.4ghz band just mainly for CCTVs, see if it helps. if it solves your problem ,don't need another node, or just simply get a used router and set it up just mainly as a node for IoT devices
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post Oct 15 2024, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 15 2024, 07:09 PM)
100mbps unifi
House is big so problem is coverage not speed

Which mesh to buy to pair with this fiberhome router? Goal is spend the least amount of money…
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Get a used router mesh, tp link will be your best option to hunt for. Since is a 100mbps unifi, then better get Wifi6 AX1800 rated.

How big is your house? 1.4ksqft? 3ksqft? Im staying in a double storey semi-d, 3 nodes altogether. Upper floor I have to use a cat5e backhaul to it. Set the router as AP, and enough to cover the upper floor 3 rooms.
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post Oct 17 2024, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Oct 17 2024, 08:21 AM)
Thanks for the tip. Place is 3k++ sqft bu detached

Went with a 3 pack WiFi 5 triple antenna mesh… fingers crossed it’ll work.

Ethernet back haul challenging. In any case don’t need high speed for rest of house. Can get min 30mbps enough already.
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then Wifi5 will be the best cost effective for you at the moment, since your max speed is 100mbps, going for wifi6 is overkill then.

By the time your speed gets upgraded again by ISP, WiFi6 already dropped price. Wifi6 is overkill for 100mbps and below.
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post Oct 17 2024, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(nampaknyahebat @ Oct 16 2024, 12:30 PM)
Hey guys, I just switched to CelcomDigi fibre and given EX510 router, how good is it as compared to my old AX50? Should I switch to EX510 or remain with AX50? Much appreciated!
edit: Just found out that EX510 has mesh function and I also have a used AX10. Upon checking AX10, it does have EasyMesh function but it required a firmware update. The question now is, how do I update the firmware when it required my pppoe username and password to enable Internet access to update the firmware. Meaning that I need to temporarily switch over to AX10, setup the router and update the firmware then switch back to EX510? Please let me know if there is any other option to update the AX10 firmware.
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Go to tp link website and find the right firmware for your hardware version. And then login into the router page of AX10 through a LAN cable and perform a manual update through the system update. It will ask for the .bin file, select the AX10 latest firmware and it will automatically detect and install.

For EX510, is ISP locked, as that router was mainly made only for ISP to be provided to their clients. You need to request from your ISP for the update file if you want to update it.

And as per my memory, that ISP router device settings is locked, but can be set with TP Link Aginet app. you may try.

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 28 2024, 03:40 PM)
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For those using Deco M9 Plus

I just replace Deco BE65 V2 as main node.

Currently using Times 600Mbps package
Only M9 hitting around 200-400, but not very stable. Need standing beside router only manage get >500

On BE65, as long as connect to Main node (within 5m) easily max out 600 ~700Mbs
If switch to M9 node, getting around 200-250Mbps (5Ghz), 100+ (2.4Ghz)
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If you want your node points to reach close to maximum speed, just use ethernet backhaul for it. It will solve the problem.

QUOTE(jasonsaw96 @ Nov 1 2024, 03:19 PM)
House type: Landed
Size of house: 22x75 (Double storey)
Features required: Antivirus, QoS, Bandwidth Limiter, VPN

Number of devices connected to WiFi: 20-30 on average + 1 LAN
- Around 12 of them being smart bulbs
- The rest are mostly phones, tv, laptops, printer
- Around 7 devices are connected to 5ghz and the rest are 2.4ghz

Internet Speed: 800mbps
Budget: preferably RM500 (may consider higher budget or get used)
ISP: TM Unifi

Current router: ASUS RT-AX55

Current concerns:
1. Unable to hit 500mbps even with LAN
2. Wifi usually around 200-300mbps
3. Poor coverage especially on second floor

4. Game high ping after the game server shifted from SG to HK, my ping went from 20-30ms to 110-170ms while my friend who is on TIME 200mbps plan, went from 20ms to 50ms with 6 devices connected. Another friend who is on the same Unfii plan as mine able to hit 50-70ms + better router with 10 connected devices. Both live in condo.

Apparently I am the only one with such poor ping. While it makes to have slower internet due to the amount of devices connected, it is my first time seeing such a huge disparity in ping. I am not sure if this is related to router limitation or related to the routing optimisation in my area.

Please advice! Also let me know if getting Wifi 7 router is a good idea for my usage and budget!

Thanks!
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Your current router is a great hardware, have you tried to update the firmware or do a hard reset for it???

Since you are already on Asus, i suggest get another wifi6 rated asus router and use the AI mesh function if you need to add coverage on 2nd floor.

High pings is due to the server routing, you can try to adjust DNS settings.

No for your speed, best stay at Wifi6, Wifi7 is more suited for 1Gbps and above imo.
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Nov 3 2024, 10:50 PM)
Stay in 3 storey landed house. Been using the Maxis router and TM model since day subscribed to the Maxis Fibre. The speed seems unstable at times and coverage is limited. Currently using two routers one at ground floor and another one at the first floor. Both connected via CAT6 cable, using two different access point names. Very unconvenient because need to switch AP on and off whenever going upstsair and downstair.

I'm thinking to buy a third party router now, hopefully a single router can do everything with great coverage. ANy reocmmendations?
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Since you already have the necessary backhaul Cat6, you may consider using mesh.

Not sure what speed are you on, but I assume you should be on 100mbps or above? Get a Wifi6 rated mesh/router.

For your 2nd floor, you can either use wireless backhaul or pull another Cat6 cable. That would solve your problem.

Or if I were you, I would get a good rated wifi6 router/mesh, and the remaining 2 floors just get a used wifi6 router and set is as an AP for the roaming to work.
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QUOTE(Stripehawk @ Nov 5 2024, 05:15 PM)
Currently on a 1Gbps Unifi plan.

Modem : white Unifi modem. not sure of the brand. I also have the Skyworth modem/router.
Router : Asus AX4200 as main
Node : Asus AC86U upstairs

PC upstairs connected to AC86U wired

Currently, I'm able to get 700Mbps downstairs but only about 170Mbps upstairs where I have most devices. I am able to get 1Gbps using the Skyworth combo but upstairs is just bad. How do I improve the speed upstairs? I am considering Deco X20, X60, BE65 or even Asus XT8 or any suggestions.
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If you are already on ASUS, better stick with Asus as their system is more robust and has free antivirus built into it. most of asus routers has AI mesh built into it. The only way is to backhaul it with ethernet cable or just get 2 new asus router with dedicated backhaul for maximum efficiency.
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QUOTE(jasonsaw96 @ Nov 6 2024, 04:18 PM)
Uhm according to TM Unifi's official thread, my router is unable to support my speed, especially when i have many devices connected. As for DNS, do you mean by changign the DNS of the router? I have been using various DNS on my phone, none of them really works
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What???

Your AX4200 is more than enough to support 1Gbps. No such thing as not enough to support, any Wifi6 rated even at the lowest AX1500, can reach 1Gbps.

The only problem is how much devices are using concurrently from the 5Ghz Wifi at the same time. The higher the rating, the "bigger Wifi space" for it to serve.

And how many is many? 10?20? Please take into account that not all IoT devices consume high bandwidth at all time. Even if the other devices uses the same 5ghz wifi, with QoS turned on, you won't saturate the entire network at all, unless you set your device on high priority specifically.

Yes, change the DNS in the router settings page. I'm on unifi, and have been using nextdns, Onedns, adguard dns. But I dont do gaming except for mobile gaming, so I have no idea on the latency and routing for it on PC wise. but so far my pings are normal when on mobile, 8ms-20ms.

Stick with asus, is a good hardware. Many of the features are all built into the router firmware which compared to the Decos, I am using, Asus is way further more advance and more options to customise.
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QUOTE(jasontanky @ Nov 9 2024, 11:38 PM)
I am currently using MR80X but unfortunately the speed is a bit slow in my room at around 450Mbps. I'm looking forward to upgrade either to MR90X or AX73 or TPLINK BE230, may I know which one is more recommended to get better speed in my room? Try to avoid mesh as I cannot alter any wiring
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Best get a router or mesh with dedicated backhaul band.

QUOTE(NYCheesecake @ Nov 15 2024, 12:56 AM)
Hello everyone, may I get a recommendation for a router:

House type: Landed
Size of house: 1500 square feet, 2 floors
Features required: The basics + antivirus protection would be good.
Number of devices connected to WiFi: 6-7 devices
Internet Speed: 200Mbps
Budget: RM400 (not sure if this is reasonable, let me know if it needs to be stretched)

Thanks!
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Asus,comes with built in antivirus , tplink need subscription
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QUOTE(lol4291 @ Nov 19 2024, 05:53 AM)
My archer C1200 seems to be having issue after few years of usage. Currently using unifi 500Mbps, current router position is sufficient enough for coverage. Didn't notice any issue with it.

Looking to replace it, with a budget around RM200-300, ideally as low as possible, looking for bang for buck option. About 10-15 device to connect, none has wifi 6 as far as i know. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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check on fb marketplace/carousell for used tplink wifi6 routers

if in doubt ..ask for their receipt and serial number to check with their live customer service on how many months warranty left.
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post Dec 29 2024, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 29 2024, 09:18 AM)
Thank you... any recommendation on good Wifi6 routers? Is TP-Link Deco home mesh system any good?
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Regardless whether your isp speed is 100mbps or 500mbps, get deco x50...as of now this is the only device that gets latest update...the other wifi6 models not as soon as x50. wifi7 gets more love than their wifi6 lineups
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 29 2024, 07:47 PM)
I am currently using 30mbps FIbre, planning to upgrade to 100mbps, does it overkill to get a Wifi6 router?

Also another problem is my ground floor is using another Wifi name and the second router at the 1st floor is using another Wifi name, i tried use the same wifi name but whenever I move up/down, the internet would not be able to use

I am currently using the Maxis provided router Huawei LG8245X6, it has Wifi 6 EasyMesh and I have two older Maxis router which are Archer AC1200, is there anyway to mesh the new router and the old router?
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To be able to fully enjoy Wifi6 capabilities ,you need to check how many devices at home is actually wifi6 gen. if you have more wifi5 devices currently, you might want to reuse back your old setup as it is. wifi6 basic router/mesh is not cheap unless during sale or used ones.

Roaming from one point to one point depends heavily on the device we are using (client) ,and that is why I said you need to check how many wifi6 devices you have on hand.

WiFi5 by nature has no roaming protocol unless the router maker has outright mention that is meshable and then yes, it will send out roaming protocol. You need protocol k,v,r to be enabled in its firmware in order to assist your device to roam from one point to another point.

My snapdragon 855+ oneplus7t , has only wifi5 and is having issues with roaming with my mesh network. where else my realme narzo 20 pro with a mtk chipset can roam although will notice the wifi icon sometimes disconnecting. so it really depends on what kind of device you are using and doesn't means is a high end device it will work flawlessly. but best get wifi6 gen devices ..that will help for the wifi signal range.

No, that huawei router easy mesh has a lot of problems. best not to rely on that for easymesh.

i suggest you read this website for better understanding of mesh.

wiisfi.com

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post Dec 31 2024, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 31 2024, 01:40 PM)
Hi all, im going to upgrade fiber to 100mbps, currently planning to buy a mesh router and a node for upstair, is it X10 is sufficient or X50 is better or overkill?
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You want bare basic wifi mesh on a budget go for X10. But don't expect any updates or newer features to be on it as TP link doesnt seems to update X10 frequently.

Already suggested go for Deco X50 (V1) particularly, as I'm also using it, and being frequently updated with the latest features and techs. even their Wifi7 decos don't get most of the requested features yet on their firmware.

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