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post Feb 8 2024, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Feb 8 2024, 01:07 PM)
Mine also. Got one device always want to connect to the one WiFi 8m away instead of the one 4m away. When using Deco, just let it be. Still works, just slower and sometimes it’ll jump back to the closer one. When using Mikrotik, I block it from connecting to the further one.
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try turning the mesh option off when your device keeps getting connected to that node, or turn off fast roaming in the options.

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post Feb 8 2024, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Feb 8 2024, 04:22 PM)
Tried. Doesn't help. It's the device that wants to change. Anyway Deco already long gone. Just temporary while waiting for Mikrotik.
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then most likely is the hardware firmware issues, faced it back on Mercusys as well...this mesh is a headache to get it right.

If the firmware is good and stable, you are caught in between whether do update to test out new features. rclxub.gif
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post Feb 20 2024, 05:32 AM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Feb 19 2024, 01:43 PM)
Hmm .. this is funny

So i switch to parent's home and detect the X20 has 1.5.3

How come my home's one X20 cannot be upgrade from 1.5.2 to 1.5.3 (is it because it is a node now?)

I bought the X20 (3packs) btw so all should be same if there is a new firmware update.
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I think is due to you using the main node XE75,is causing the app detect your location in MY.

Meanwhile global and US website has 1.5.3 for Deco X20 V1.
If you are daring enough, can always download the file, and update it manually through the web browser.


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post Feb 20 2024, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(Wombat0 @ Feb 19 2024, 10:52 PM)
Any recommendations for a wifi extender?

House type: Condo
Size of house: 1 floor, 1500sqf
Features required: a wifi extender to address wifi dead spot in my gaming room or lounge room (depending where I place the main router). Prefer low latency and not to technical to setup.
Number of devices connected to WiFi: 3-4
Internet Speed: 100mbps
Budget: <200 MYR
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If you have plaster ceiling in your unit , may consider getting an unmanaged switch and do your own ethernet cabling in the gap of ceiling .

You can't really do much with that budget, and for condos they will always recommend you to use mesh due to beam slabs and the layout of a typical condo unit. 1500sf for a condo is not small.

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post Mar 24 2024, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(nazq @ Mar 23 2024, 04:27 PM)
Just moved to a double storey house. Setup the router upstairs, and the downstairs signal are low, even the 2.4 ghz.

Unifi technicians who came to setup suggested to upgrade our router (we're using the stock TP-Link AC1200 provided by TM since began using Unifi).

Will upgrading router is enough for greater reach? Just wondering as the previous tenant mentioned they used mesh on downstairs, so unsure if new router is enough or we need to look into mesh as well.

Our Unifi package is 500Mbps. The Unifi technicians suggested Asus TUF series, at least the ones that supported WiFi 6. Total noob in network here, so pls advise.
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For 500Mbps, highly recommended to look for WiFi6 generation routers or mesh system, get at least with AX3000 rated and above. If you want 2 levels with same internet speed, you may need to consider using wired backhaul for both mesh or AP stations.


QUOTE(eternity4av @ Mar 24 2024, 10:36 AM)
following up through that, im using 800mbps, but almost all my house IoT uses 2.4ghz, so i stucked with 2.4ghz, but to control it from my bedroom upstairs, my wifi speed is only 50mbps at most, is there any model that able to transmits higher wifi speed on 2.4ghz for 800mbps?

IoT - panasonic air cond, multiple tp link tapo p330 on living room,
router is on living room,
but most of the time, i m at master bedroom upstairs.
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2.4Ghz at most will only set you back at 100mbps, 100mbps and above will be very rare uncongested timing.

IoT devices shouldn't even need close to 100Mbps to function adequately, AFAIK, most Tp Link router firmware nowadays include IoT network, which creates a separate SSID just alone for Iot devices.
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post Mar 25 2024, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(kinwah123 @ Mar 25 2024, 12:00 AM)
Any recommendation for 5G sim card router ?
Are those provided by Yes or Umobile reliable ?
Residential, double story, 100mbps~500mbps are measured with Speedtest.
Planning to use one sim based router + mesh network (maybe ethernet from router to mesh) to cover the whole house? Any recommendations are very welcome.
Budget is <2k (own several Deco mesh routers)
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Get Tp-Link series Deco X50-5G, and you can reuse your deco meshes as nodes.

Yes or Umobile does provide, but not cheap and could be ISP firmware locked.
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post Apr 21 2024, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(borgyang @ Apr 19 2024, 07:30 PM)
Thanks for your suggestions!

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On and off minor hiccups in firmware but is not really nerve breaking or headache inducing.

Asus comes with a long time support and whole lot pack of features built into their devices, hence the higher price, and also not to forget their very very long firmware support.

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Yes but it depends on what kind of router and satellite node that you are using.

For example, I got two mesh from TM when I renewed my contract, was given two AX3000 SR1041F, both mesh without any problems to my main node, have tested with Mercusys Halo mesh, and also Tp Link Deco mesh, all through the WPS method.

Yes, there will be two sets 2.4/5Ghz in the house if there are two nodes, basically a mesh has the same SSID,same security protocols. It just a mirror of your main, whatever you set on the main will be reflected on the satellite node but that only applies if both mesh system are the same. Mesh works by having same SSID /password and that is how roaming works.

If you mesh for example , a router/extender from another different band, it just a "repeater" in a way.

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I doubt that Maxis stock router can be meshed. As I read from many it has a lot of issues.

Where else, the current supplied router generation WiFi6 Fiberhome is better IMO. I'm using one of it as a "mesh" for my current setup of decos. So far so good, not so fast roaming handshake, but still perform what is intended to.
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post Apr 30 2024, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Exceet @ Apr 29 2024, 10:03 AM)
Hi, currently I am on unifi 300mbps package, with fiberhome router.

I have several questions:

1) for wireless backhaul using asus router, i am considering 2 units of XT8 / 2 units of AX57. From my understanding, XT8 pros is dedicated 5ghz (2) wireless backhaul. But since my package is only 300mbps, AX57 even with wireless backhaul should still have half of the bandwidth right (2402mbps divide by 2, 1201mbps), so by getting 2x AX57 i can still achieve maximum speed as compare to xt8?

2) for wired backhaul, will there be issue if i were to connect router in this way?

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1) might still be able to achieve close to maximum speed but subject to interference and walls.

2)No issue, but most likely you can only see connected devices through fiberhome app/webUI. not sure if the asus mesh UI may work or not. Daisy chaining also can for wired , wireless not suggested to do so.

The fiberhome just make sure you tag the lan port to Internet Vid correctly. as the default setting is tag for iptv/voip/tr069.

3) as I know Tm modem only Lan port 1 is available for use, other ports is locked for other ISP. or just set your main router node with the most Lan ports.

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post Apr 30 2024, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(epicure @ Apr 29 2024, 03:16 PM)
hi guys,

wanted to ask a question. Im using maxis huawei router and easymesh units for my home.

If i update the firmware ( i have the file) for the router and mesh units, it wont erase any settings that i had previously right?

Thanks in advance
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backup your settings if the option is available .

in that case you won't have to worry or fear of losing settings
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post May 2 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(epicure @ May 2 2024, 03:39 PM)
Thanks i’ll look it up once i login to the router. thanks for your advice

By the way, im actually using the Maxis Huawei router the LG8245X6-10 ( i know it sucks but i got a few easy mesh setup already so ill continue to use it)

recently i have been having problems whereby the internet will just stop working. But once i reboot the router, everything is fine. This happens once daily. So, i’m suspecting that i have too many 2.4ghz wifi devices and its overloading the maxis huawei wifi 6 router.

if i remove some smart plugs ( that i dont really use) would it help? Or are the main culprits the IP cameras ? I have 12 IP cameras on the 2.4Ghz band.

Thanks if you have any insights or suggestions.
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Log in to the webUI management page of router and check the ram or cpu load. Could be nearing to limit which in turn jack up your router and the current problem you are facing.

Also perhaps could be due to outdated firmware?

Having so much IP cameras at home could be one of the reason. Maybe you can try to turn off all your cameras at night while there is no one using to test out your router to see if there's any issue?
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post May 7 2024, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ May 7 2024, 01:45 PM)
TP LINK BE85 any good? Because my house i think more than 4500 sq ft

maxis wifi 6E router / wifi 6 mesh barely give me any connection below the main router which is located upstairs
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Before you venture into Tp Link products , better go survey in their forum and see if there's any complains or bugs first.

Tp Link slower in releasing new firmwares to add function to their lineups unless if its a critical issue, ASUS on the other hand has better firmware support for the long run and their antivirus which is free for life. TP link new products are homeshield and needs to be subscribed.
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post May 8 2024, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ May 7 2024, 11:11 PM)
what information do i need in order to setup either tplink/asus routers ?

Because maxis 2gbps fibre doesnt seem to provide me anything. Just setup and left lol
did you review it yet? in video
hmm you are the third person telling me this. My friends told me better get asus routers
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there's a reason why ASUS products are expensive, but not necessarily might be good for some, but comparing specs to specs, i dare say Asus get it right with the appropriate features that most user would want over their network performance and features.

for example, you can individually control the mesh nodes to turn off the led, adjust rssi roam threshold, turn the ssid off individually and many more.

this is something tp link is lacking of currently despite being too easy. asus also easy to setup but yet they remain the same and leave the advanced features there just in case someone with the right experience can utilize it.
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post May 17 2024, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(yongtjunkit @ May 14 2024, 02:16 PM)
Hi, just wondering which router would be suitable to replace my AX92u node?

Was thinking maybe RT-Ax86U Pro or GT-AX6000
Looking for future speed upgrade to support higher internet speed down the line, if possible I would like a router with long term firmware support (around 3-5 years at least), if ASUS still supports their router like the ac68u... seems like RT-AX86U pro is having better firmware support for some reason rclxub.gif

Current main router is Zenwifi XT8, 1 pack (nodes are connected via Ethernet Backhaul),
Current internet speed is Unifi 500mbps
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For the future, I think max we can go is 1Gbps or 2Gbps, I don't foresee that we may need 5Gbps or more in the future 3-5 years.

QUOTE(studentsurvey @ May 17 2024, 12:39 AM)
Hi Sifus,

Can i get help for quick ques.

Internet Package - Time 600mpbs
Available stock modem and router - 2 unit Huawei

From my previous place, i have:
1. Tp-link Deco X90 - 1 unit
2. Tp-link Deco m9 plus - 2 units

Current set-up, i use both the stock huawei modem & router as I just installed the internet. My question is, how do i now use the Decos instead?

I was thinking:
Modem - Huawei stock (do not change)
Connected to Modem - Deco X90 (not sure how to configure, to get the internet yet).
The other two Deco - spread to potential dead spots

Is the above the best configuration?
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As I know, for TIME subscription, you may need to call their CS to get your modem/router to be set into bridge mode, meaning just for establishing a connection to their Time gateway only. If you want to use your own router or mesh, just simply plug your router/mesh and select under Dynamic IP.

For deco set up, very straightforward, instead of selecting PPPOE mode, you just select Dynamic IP mode, and plug in the lan cable from your TIME device LAN port to the WAN/LAN port of Deco, and from then on, is all automatic. To pair the other Decos is through the usual method by selecting add more decos from the Deco app.
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post May 18 2024, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(myrancid @ May 17 2024, 07:09 PM)
Hi,

I'm looking to replace my RT-AX1800HP. Is there any better firewall than this? I blocked youtube on url filter (router) and my 7 yrs old son just use private mode on safari ipad browser and he can watch as usual lol
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block his MAC address, or throttle the device speed to only 1Mbps or lower, just enough for basic surfing and email. Let's see how smart he can go.
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post Jun 19 2024, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(x3Kai @ Jun 18 2024, 04:46 PM)
Hey guys,

Here is my current set up:

TIME Fibre 500 Mbps (now on free upgrade to 600 Mbps)
2x Huawei HG8145X6

1 located in the electrical box / storage room where fibre comes in. (fully concrete structure, it's so bad that my room right down the hallway couldn't even get more than 2/5 bars on my phone, assuming it's the 5ghz band because the current setup didn't split the SSIDs)
1 located in my living room, behind my big ass printer connected to the other unit via cable, should be CAT5.
The condo is bout 800 sq. ft. and I sit in the living area most of the time anyways.

6 months back when the installer came, he was able to get 500Mbps in both 5g and LAN in the speed test and reported back as such. Today, even after the 600 Mbps upgrade, I'm only getting bout 100 Mbps on my living room computer.

The Wi-Fi setup for the computer is also a little junky. I went from a USB Wi-Fi card (dead now) to now, using an old phone (can receive 5ghz connection) to USB tether my connection (temporary solution).  I'm getting AX210 Wi-Fi card + PCIE adapter from China to replace this junky set up but was wondering if I should also upgrade the router set up.

This is because other devices were also never able to get 600 Mbps speed. At peak, I will have like 3 computers, 6 phones, 2 android TV box and 2 tablets connecting to my poor router.

From what I read, unlike Unifi that uses VLAN tagging, TIME only relies on PPPoE so I guess most of the China routers should be compatible? Plus most likely, I'll be using it as a router only, instead of modem + router since my Fibre termination box is stuck at the electrical box / storage room. Sure, I'll miss out on 6ghz but is it really that big of a deal?

Any recommendations?
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You can try to extend the fibre cable to somewhere which has less electrical interference, but I don't really think is electrical box but more likely the spot of the storage room is, where there are many walls and a door that makes your wifi signal keep bouncing here and there, and by the time it reaches your living room, the speed is heavily affected.

But best way is to get the fibre extended up to living room, wiring it or how to conceal is up to your imagination and planning as we do not know how your house is like, or get a specialist who can do it, but doesn't comes cheap to pull a simple fibre or LAN.

But most importantly, you need to test your speed by plugging a LAN cable directly to the main router and test whether can you hit 500mbps or not, once you rule out is not the router issues, then it could be either your

1) device Wifi gen is WiFi4 or 5. devices too old to support your router speeds, bottle necking.
2) settings on the router not optimized for your house network
3) wrong timing day of speed test server (this affects too during high peak usage test)
4) placement of your router.

Also will not recommend China based router even if its cheaper unless you are 100% sure and done your research that the particular model can flash it to a english version or international firmware, but most likely cannot. So better stick with the general worldwide ones that is being sold locally here in shops as that would means it supports our local ISP settings.

Would recommend you to ASUS, tp link or if you don't mind, D-Link which is the cheapest among them but unreliable firmware stability.

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post Jun 25 2024, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(x3Kai @ Jun 21 2024, 12:47 AM)
I've made a simple drawing to better illustrate my situation.

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To begin with, I thought of digging out my old TIME router and place it in the storage room, then connect it to the switch, where it'll be connected to the LAN port in both the living room and master bedroom, and use the 2 new mesh routers as AP, but even with that set up, I'm still unable to make the most out of my 600 Mbps as I lose 200 Mbps just by being 3 meters away from the router.

As I don't believe that is normal, this leads me to the conclusion that the Wi-Fi capability of this router is trash, hence my rationale of getting a cheap modern Chinese router with strong Wi-Fi capability to use as an AP, or at least strong enough to cover 700 ish sqft. I don't really need the router capability if it's not compatible with our local configuration. But if it does, 1 less device = save more electricity!
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If you have LAN port built into your home, then you can consider using AP mode to maximize your signal and speed throughput.

Places where you don't really need full speed, you can get a used or new WiFi5 gen. But I suggest that if possible, get all the same model for better setup and fine tuning later on.

In my case for example, running two deco x50 as a main and wireless node, while my 1st floor, I used back what was provided by my ISP and can be paired to my main X50 nodes effortlessly and is directly wired to the main node on ground floor. The fast roaming works perfectly as of now, almost 1 month no issues or weird bugs anymore. Infact, is even better at coverage if compared to a X50 I used at the same spot for the same floor.

You can always look for Deco that supports ECO mode, but this only on a certain model with a certain firmware. Like the Deco X50 i'm using I can schedule the Wifi to turn off automatically at a certain time and leave only 2.4Ghz to be turned on.

ASUS has that function too if I'm not wrong.

There is no balance to it, if you want full coverage you got to install more APs or mesh around the house and that would definitely consume a little bit more of electricity at the end of the month.


About the router provided by your ISP, maybe the signal strength coverage is set to low or standard? I'm not sure, but you got to login into it and check the settings, sometimes routers comes as default setting. hence why I said needs fine tuning earlier.

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post Sep 4 2024, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(DarkCoffee @ Aug 19 2024, 05:29 PM)
anyone know how many unit of fiberhome sr1041f can I use as a mesh? currently using two (one as controller one as mesh), can I add one more?
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no limitations mentioned by this maker..should be able to go up to a certain reasonable amount ,ie 7-10 before your wireless network goes haywire with so much ssid all over.

if adding one more should be fine..but the real problem is how are you going to select the source of signal since the default firmware has no options to do like what tplink or asus offer unless you are using ethernet to backhaul it.
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post Sep 4 2024, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(DarkCoffee @ Sep 4 2024, 01:17 PM)
probably gonna disable the wireless network for other repeater as I will be using ethernet instead. Main router connect via 'wireless' to Router 2 and Router 3. Router 2 and 3 connect to PC via ethernet.  rolleyes.gif
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you can technically do that, but as I remember the interface ui is buggy, when you turn off the wireless..it will somehow lose the wifi signal from the main and the whole thing will be malfunctioning.
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QUOTE(BuKeYi @ Sep 12 2024, 03:55 PM)
Need help from sifu sifu sekalian, currently I'm using Maxis Wifi 6 Router. Need suggestion on whether change a better coverage router or add-on wifi mesh for my current house.

I'm living in 3-storey house and using just one wifi router, 3rd floor already installed Cat 6 cable so it's not a problem. The issue is I got one cctv installed on 2nd floor which at the balcony edge there to cover my 1st floor footage.

At first everything is smooth and no connection interruption issue, but recently that cctv is a hit or miss and sometimes disconnected like half day. So asking for suggestion as I'm not expert on it.

3rd floor cable currently is direct connect to my laptop, and also consider nearest to the cctv on the 2nd floor. Is it better to buy a wifi router at 3rd floor or mesh is better?
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is it possible for you to pull another spare cable from 3rd floor to 2nd?

if possible, and you don't really utilise the 2nd floor wifi, just simply get a wifi 5 or basic wifi6 and set it as a wireless ap, any brand will do, or if you were me...just get a used router with Wireless AP feature and just set it. if that's only for the sake of getting the cctv to receive just enough coverage.
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post Sep 19 2024, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(tiongkeat @ Sep 18 2024, 01:39 PM)
Hi all sifu here,

i would like to ask Between this 2 units,  which 1 should set as main router?

Asus ROG Rapture GT-AC5300

ASUS TUF-AX6000 Wi-Fi 6 TUF Gaming Router
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Go for the AX, is a WiFi6, a big leap of improvements of Wifi5, if its from wifi 6 to wifi6e...don't...not much too gain from the hardware upgrade as your devices most likely won't be able to use the full capacity of it.

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