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Quazacolt
post Sep 19 2018, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ajaibman @ Sep 19 2018, 11:46 AM)
WOw,

why don't we discuss this in a TT, not in forum, this is not /k we all riders and brothers/sister.

Let me know if you guys keen to the TT let me organize it.
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I drive can ah? But my schedule now would be very difficult to work around with sad.gif
TSTheOnly
post Sep 19 2018, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(mypie @ Sep 19 2018, 11:03 AM)
Wow.. so much anger, are you Romano Fenati in disguise. shocking.gif


Oh.. your Z900 literary small to my bike, and this might be why we have a difference riding approach. Just enjoy your ride.
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Ok let’s not turn this thread which already contain numerous useful advice and viewpoint from more experienced riders into a /k style topic.

I can imagine everyone will have their own viewpoint and it’s good to share with new and old riders alike, same as how im sharing my view as a car driver for 2 decades + as a brand new rider.

Keep the useful advice or unwritten rules on the roads as a motorbikers coming in guys.
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post Sep 20 2018, 01:02 PM

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this is a very sad + unlucky case..

if you hv watch tis dashcam on fb sukan startv etc..

kapchai rider jz cruising on the leftmost lane, seems he hit something, the bike jumped lost control..

the truck? wit dashcam jz ran over him..

so riders.. u cant afford to even take 1% of attention off the road while riding..

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Mikahl
post Sep 20 2018, 01:26 PM

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Nice topic, haven't logged into the forum for awhile.

Ironically, if you're not prepared to die, don't ride a bike. However, while dying may not be an issue, paralysis can be a lifelong problem that affects those closest to you. To me, biking is like going to war, you can take as many precautions as you want, the elements of risk surrounding the activity itself remains highly volatile and unpredictable.

As for my 2 cents on how to try to stay in one piece, which may not be applicable to you, but I bear them in my mind when I ride:

1. Ride with a clear mind and a clear conscience. If you are troubled in some way, trouble will find you on the road. Biking requires full concentration, all the time. Unlike driving a car, you need both hands and feet in active coordination, eyes constantly peeled front and back, left and right.

2. Say a prayer before and during your ride. Even if there is no god, it will calm your mind. A calm mind works better, reacts faster.

3. Ride within your 50% to 70% effort only, even when you want to speed away or whack a corner. Someone taught me this, and if you can figure out what this means, you'll appreciate this rule.

As for armor, it's always advisable to suit up all the time, but I don't, so I won't go around saying that everyone should. It's your life, it's your bike, it's your ride, so it's your responsibility, your fate and your destiny. Hope lady luck rides with you all the time.

Happy biking.







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post Sep 20 2018, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mikahl @ Sep 20 2018, 01:26 PM)
Nice topic, haven't logged into the forum for awhile.

Ironically, if you're not prepared to die, don't ride a bike. However, while dying may not be an issue, paralysis can be a lifelong problem that affects those closest to you. To me, biking is like going to war, you can take as many precautions as you want, the elements of risk surrounding the activity itself remains highly volatile and unpredictable.

As for my 2 cents on how to try to stay in one piece, which may not be applicable to you, but I bear them in my mind when I ride:

1. Ride with a clear mind and a clear conscience. If you are troubled in some way, trouble will find you on the road. Biking requires full concentration, all the time. Unlike driving a car, you need both hands and feet in active coordination, eyes constantly peeled front and back, left and right.

2. Say a prayer before and during your ride. Even if there is no god, it will calm your mind. A calm mind works better, reacts faster.

3. Ride within your 50% to 70% effort only, even when you want to speed away or whack a corner. Someone taught me this, and if you can figure out what this means, you'll appreciate this rule.

As for armor, it's always advisable to suit up all the time, but I don't, so I won't go around saying that everyone should. It's your life, it's your bike, it's your ride, so it's your responsibility, your fate and your destiny. Hope lady luck rides with you all the time.

Happy biking.
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Stays within your limits, NOT bike limits. biggrin.gif

Remember, not matter how expensive your bike is, you'll loose if go against cheap old run down 'kancil' whistling.gif Ride defensively, not aggressively.
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post Sep 20 2018, 02:15 PM

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One of the otai in lowyat taught that we should ride at the speed that we can minimise the use of brake (except engine braking) and i as a new rider found it really useful in daily commute. But forgot who😓
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post Sep 20 2018, 03:10 PM

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anyone ride with working clothes and then armor on the outside?

will it become all wrinkle when reach office?
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post Sep 20 2018, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 20 2018, 03:10 PM)
anyone ride with working clothes and then armor on the outside?

will it become all wrinkle when reach office?
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wave.gif I used to wear office attire to office with riding jacket and riding shoes (TCX X-Ville, which can be accepted as office shoe). My office attire not too much wrinkle, I use cotton and wrinkle-free shirts. Nowadays I can wear anything to work, so, wrinkle shirts are not a problem.

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post Sep 20 2018, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 20 2018, 03:10 PM)
anyone ride with working clothes and then armor on the outside?

will it become all wrinkle when reach office?
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Personally I prefer to ride to work in bike gear and change at office.

Imagine all that shifting while wearing your best smart shoes... doh.gif

@Cyphereza has a nice compromise - wear bike shoes/boots while riding and switch to smart shoes at the office.


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post Sep 20 2018, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(TanJy1814 @ Sep 20 2018, 02:15 PM)
One of the otai in lowyat taught that we should ride at the speed that we can minimise the use of brake (except engine braking) and i as a new rider found it really useful in daily commute. But forgot who😓
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Yep, to do that, you need to ensure when you kill the throttle, the engine brakes for you, and that means just ride on 1st gear all the way, quite sure you'd rarely need to pull the brake lever to slow down.

Use the brakes, get used to using it, feel it, feel the stopping force, know it's limits, practice modulation, and know what the rear brakes can and cannot do.
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post Sep 21 2018, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 20 2018, 03:10 PM)
anyone ride with working clothes and then armor on the outside?

will it become all wrinkle when reach office?
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When I used to ride to office i wear full riding gear only pants I use knee pads.

Change dress shoes and my dress shirt, tidy up/style my hair
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post Sep 21 2018, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(skincladalien @ Sep 20 2018, 03:10 PM)
anyone ride with working clothes and then armor on the outside?

will it become all wrinkle when reach office?
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Me.
But I don't care. Safety first.
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post Sep 21 2018, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(deadwolf @ Sep 20 2018, 04:59 PM)
Personally I prefer to ride to work in bike gear and change at office.

Imagine all that shifting while wearing your best smart shoes...  doh.gif

@Cyphereza has a nice compromise - wear bike shoes/boots while riding and switch to smart shoes at the office.
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Actually, the TCX X-Ville is my working shoes. biggrin.gif
It's waterproof too thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2018, 01:59 AM)
When I used to ride to office i wear full riding gear only pants I use knee pads.

Change dress shoes and my dress shirt, tidy up/style my hair
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What kind/brand of knee pads? Any photos?

P/s for tips:
1. For those wearing office attires, make sure your riding jacket is not TOO snug. Loose it a bit (loose the adjusters on the jacket, do not buying one size up) to avoid nasty wrinkles.
2. Invest in some waterproof riding shoes. This will make you feel more comfortable than a soaked shoe. But the waterproof will deteriorate over the years.
3. Invest in BRIGHT NEON coloured rain coat. This will help other vehicles to see you better in the rain.
4. When in an EMERGENCY, to stop quickly, if you have ABS, PULL the clutch and hit BOTH brakes.
5. If riding in the city, cover the front brakes with one or two fingers.

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post Sep 21 2018, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(Cyphereza @ Sep 21 2018, 08:06 AM)
What kind/brand of knee pads? Any photos?

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http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function...&category_id=10
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Saved my knees couple of times, glad I can still walk lol
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post Sep 21 2018, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2018, 09:07 AM)
http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function...&category_id=10
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Saved my knees couple of times, glad I can still walk lol
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Does it feel uncomfortable or make you feel unnatural when moving around?
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post Sep 21 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Sep 21 2018, 09:32 AM)
Does it feel uncomfortable or make you feel unnatural when moving around?
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Nope

But I assume you wouldn't want to be seen in that walking around the office lol

It's really easy to put on/off, pretty compact for storage as well
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post Sep 21 2018, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 21 2018, 09:07 AM)
http://www.komine.ac/products.php?function...&category_id=10
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Saved my knees couple of times, glad I can still walk lol
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How is this knee protector ?
Are the straps good? Able to hold it in place?

I'm using this everyday. The upper strap is weak, the protector tend to slide down a bit.
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post Sep 22 2018, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Sep 21 2018, 11:40 PM)
How is this knee protector ?
Are the straps good?  Able to hold it in place?

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No problem for mine
It is also CE certified, and I've had 2 accidents wearing it
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post Sep 22 2018, 05:37 PM

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indeed very very important point about safety gear;

For all commuters, it is very important to at the very bare minimum wear these :

Knee pads, a cheap made-in-china one is way more protective then your jeans alone, these type very easy to wear & take off, also can put in saddlebag/backpack when you reach your destination.
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Even more important is; a glove!! I personally never rode a bike without a glove, sometimes forget - but still U-turn go home take glove. As falling off a bike already sucks majorly, try to minimize the damage... and those better designed gloves will have a palm slider (IMPORTANT), so you don't bust your collarbone while bracing an impact with your hand.
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post Sep 22 2018, 10:05 PM

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slalom riding anyone? biggrin.gif



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