Just got the 500 Mbps upgrade this morning and now I am looking for equipment upgrade..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

What router did you guys use that can utilize the 500mbps via wifi and the coverage is strong enough to upper floor (3 bars and above)?

Surveying routers around since yesterday until today..

rounded down to these few good ones:
- TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300 2 pack - RM555
- Mikrotik hAP - RM580
- ASUS RT AC66U - RM 625
- Linksys EA7500 Max-Stream AC1900+ Mu-Mimo Gigabit Wi-Fi Router (EA7500-AH) - RM 699

Anyone used these routers above? can help to do a quick speed test via wifi if you already on 500mbps?

This post has been edited by ahpingko: Aug 24 2018, 10:39 AM

You need a router that can support 3 X 3 MIMO, and devices that can support 3 X 3 too, and the Deco M5 is only 2x2.

I would suggest the TP-Link Archer C7 v4 or v5, which is 3 X 3, or even better, the TP-Link C3150 V2, which is 4 X 4.

Sorry for asking, is 3x3 or 4x4 impact the signal coverage too? means like 4x4 is wider? or same coverage?

I am also interested in Mikrotik hAP AC but worried the coverage not strong enough and end up need to spend for another powerline..

i also looking for a good router

No, it is just MIMO, or the ability to transmit and receive multiple radio chains. It has nothing to do with signal coverage. Mikrotik hAP AC is a good device, but it functions best as an AP. I would recommend the TP Link Archer C7 v4 or v5, if you have a normal sized house, and if you have a slightly bigger house, try the TP-Link Archer AC3150 v2. Alternatively, go for the high end Asus routers if you can afford it.

This post is interesting.

How about Netgear Orbi? It is the best mesh wifi system according to some reviews.

How to handle VLAN of hypptv through Mesh Wifi , are they able to manage Vlan trunking?

want good wifi

use Ubiquiti AP such as link below

https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap/

of cos ur router must be good gigabit one

Up to you. VLAN trunking have to be done via a switch.

This post has been edited by SilentVampire: Aug 23 2018, 03:08 PM

I've always wondered whether those mesh wifi router/ satelite is able to this :-





It would simplify the whole system if the router/satelite can manage all the VLAN instead of buying additional switches to do it.

OOKAS mentioned that the latest TP Link Deco M5 able to support unifi directly already..

It's not supporting unifi that is the concern.

Is the ability to transmit both vlan500&600 wirelessly and each of the satelite is able to untag them. Also it needs to untag the internet data and transmit through wifi for all the devices.

is it possible to run a cat6 cable up?

then connect another wireless ap to that cat6 at the top?

Then there will be 2 wifi ssid and you need to manually change it on your phone etc.
The point of mesh is so that you have only 1 ssid and the mesh wifi automatically changes to the router/satelite nearest to you.

i think support unifi means can already support the VLAN tagging for internet and the hypptv else how to label as supporting unifi? lol..

nope.. if yes also wont be using powerline...

DECO M5 Wireless 400 Mbps on 2.4 GHz + 867 Mbps on 5 GHz

867Mbps I have doubt to get 500Mbps in real environment, furthermore, Mesh Router don't have wireless channel setting, it is on automatic mode.

Yes most router also support unifi but they are not able to transmit both vlan wirelessly.
eg:- Like the Asus AC68U it will just output vlan600 on port4 and Vlan500 on port 1-3. It's not able to trunk both vlan and transmit wirelessly. Asus also support unifi but can't do that. You have to be very careful what "support unifi" means exactly.

Thanks for the explaination, I think I get what you meant.. Need to find out further first on the latest firmware for Deco M5..

anybody using it currently?

Not possible using Deco. You have to get Mikrotik or an enterprise router for that.

Most consumer router do not offer that feature.

Unrelated topics to Unifi turbo.

My unifi package still runs 30mbps (pending for turbo), but my wifi strength is super weak at 1st floor.

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C5
- LAN connected to TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit

First Floor:
- (WIFI boardcasted by Ground floor) TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
- spare router TP link Archer C5


Can i boardcast the signal ? Using this setup (Powerline LAN --> spare router TP Link Archer C5)

The wireless signal from the wireless endpoint on your powerline should be strong enough right? How come you need to add another spare router to the powerline?

Yeah, but the output of the powerline is LAN-port. Isnt it?

Sorry Wrong TP series.
It's TP-LINK TL-PA4010KIT 500MB/s Powerline Homeplug Adapters

Then yes, you should add on router at your first floor connected to the powerline..

Do you have built-in phone lines at home?

Yes, you can. But, I will just say that powerline is very fickle, as the data travel through the electrical lines, and any disturbance to the line will severely impact your speed. The best choice is a wired AP, and failing that, a decent router that have good wireless coverage.

I have good experience with the aztech 1200mbps homeplug. Consistently gives me 2ms ping to router. Maybe my house wiring is new.

But it lacks bandwidth , only managed around 150mbps consistent.

just some FYI, powerline product is not very ideal for gigabit networking, because in this case your whole house wiring is a giant antenna. the normal twisted pair networking cables, cat 5e, cat6 and 7 and its shielded counter parts are able to prevent and reduce signal interruption cause by other electrical signals and also reduce its interruption of others.

Long story short, invest in cat 6 or 7. Dont waste time and effort and get subpar result if you want 500mbps or more.


In case you think I am blabbering about something not true.


I was able to use my house electrical wiring as an antenna to receive digital tv signals. Yup that is how great those electrical wiring works as antenna for other signals.

And Ham radio users will tell all powerline users to stop using it as it is polluting the radio waves.


Powerline, should you choose to use it, you will come back soon and complaint about bad packets and signals. things of that sort and resulting in less then 500mbps.(see above user that thought that having low ping is good enough but mbps only 150mbps.

This post has been edited by skywardsword: Aug 23 2018, 07:37 PM

866mbps can get 500mbps in real environment. Tested using samsung note 8

Where did you get this poster?

Someone share it, hopefully other brands distributors can also promote their models asap...

Just reach home to test my router speed just now..


Speedtest using my Himedia Q10 Pro Android box connected directly to TP Link Archer C2 via Gigabit LAN


Speedtest using my Samsung Galaxy S9+ connected to TP Link Archer C2 via Wireless AC 5ghz

This post has been edited by ahpingko: Aug 23 2018, 09:51 PM

Time to upgrade to Asus router to enjoy the full turbo speed. See here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Atta...post&id=9987212

what cable u use bro? Cat5e or Cat6?

This is normal d. wireless max can go 250+

still need a capable phone to get max performance mah.
nice ads from Asus to s*ck gullible buyers into upgrading their router to Asus
but should have done it when Time offer their 500mbps

hehe, distributors should do this if they wanna biz...
But time only got in KL, PG, JB and Malacca only.

Dlink 850L top speed for WiFi throughput is only at 280Mbps or 273Mbps to be exact.

Hahaha.

You tested it?
Like that, my 850L is laosai badly... (wifi only sucks)

yes , tried with 2x2 and 3x3 client, the output is the same.cannot expect much even my RT AC88U struggle to get 500Mbps top on WiFi using real life scenarios.

To get consistent 800Mbps on WiFi? Just forget about it.

haha, its just limitations of AC.
Maybe somedays, AX or better wifi might getting popular...

IEEE 802.11ax is due to be publicly released sometime in 2019.[1] Devices were presented at CES 2018 that showed a top speed of 11 Gbit/s.[2]

surveying routers around since yesterday until today..

rounded down to these few good ones:
- TP-LINK Deco M5 AC1300 2 pack - RM555
- Mikrotik hAP - RM580
- ASUS RT AC66U - RM 625
- Linksys EA7500 Max-Stream AC1900+ Mu-Mimo Gigabit Wi-Fi Router (EA7500-AH) - RM 699

Anyone used these routers above? can help to do a quick speed test via wifi if you already on 500mbps?

SAME LAOSAI badly

Anyone using the asus blue wave now? seem trendy

blue wave seem trendy, anyone using it now?

Is this router good for 500mbps turbo upgrade?

I am also lokking at this but seller say hAP AC got better wifi throughput compared this newer hAP AC2..

Just run an Ethernet cable if you have a PC - WiFi is meant for convenience, not for speed/latency-sensitive applications such as gaming/remote PC/VPN

Don’t say wifi only sucks, mine lan and wifi also useless sia. Capped at 100 what’s the point? Gigabit oso 100 ah?

Hi All sifu sifu, just get the notification last 2 days ago saying my Unifi has been turbo-ed to 500mbps. Somehow tested with Unifi speed test, my PC only get 100mbps download speed(using LAN cable though TP-LINK AV1200 Gigabit Passthrough Powerline Starter Kit TL-PA8010PKIT) and my phone only get 50mbps download speed.
Btw, i'm using stock Unifi router which is TP link archer c1200. Had called Unifi call centre, they help to reset their end and i restart modem & router few times also with the same speed.
Is it same thing like the above members said which was capped at 100mbps??

obviously its ur cable and router configuration issues limit your speed...

Seems not. Bcs last night i just open and checked it. Didn’t change anything 🤔 need to ask tm what’s going on.

Obviously not. Did you try connecting directly to your router?

You also kena ah? But seems like u use the tplink one? How can leh?

Anyone here uses MOCA 2.0 before?

My house has concealed tv port, thought can use it.

It's the only reliable 1gbps (real world 900mbps+++) that I know of after ethernet.

No woh, i can't as my router at my living hall and PC located at other room. Unless i got long enough LAN cable to test it. Meaning that this router can handle 500mbps without issue then?

Yup, the tplink archer c1200. You also using the same router?

Nahh. I think you should get actual speed using the lan cable. I use that tabung one. Dlink. Uhhh 850-L i think 🤔

1. sqft of each floor
2. lan up each room
3. place a AP each room

Okay. Theoretically it can handle 500Mbps without issue via wired connection, and it really depends on wireless connection, both on your device and how far away from the router it is plus other interfering issues. Did you check your computer can support gigabit speed? See here: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-find-out...-gigabit-speed/

That is crap, in terms of wireless speed.

This post has been edited by SilentVampire: Aug 24 2018, 02:12 PM

Dunno la bro. I think i’m gonna buy new cable then test it first. If the same problem happen I buy new router. If same problem happen oso, yea i throw it away. Haha.

Arhh,, yeah..i think my PC cap it at 100mbps because of the network card. I miss out that one, really stupid me. Currently i can't check it as at office.
Btw i havent test unifi 5g wifi connection yet. The phone was tested with normal wifi connection only. Thanks a lot bross

No worries, it might be able to support gigabit, but you have to manually configure it. Go back tonight and test it. Good luck.

crap. I think i need to change new cable also.

Yup. Thanks ..i also need to check my cable also.

Nowadays mostly using cat5e, if cat5 then will cap at 100mbps. Me also need to check the cable as well.

mine just now checked using cat5e from router to pc directly connect. Also 100mbps. I think my cable got problem. So I just buy new Cat6 just. Wait till tunite la want to test.

Yeh, I have checked with direct connection from router to pc. Can get about 500mbps download speed liao.
But plugged in with the TP-LINK AV1200 power adapter it goes down to about 150mbps with swap some cat5e cable.
the power adapter have limitation and block some download speeds?
Yup, next thing i also thinking wanna buy some cat6 cable to plug with the power adapter see whether got improve o not.

expected from powerline adapter la.. same with mine.. abit stupid one..

Did you try test with cat6 cable see whether can improve o not?
Because i tested with different sets of cat5e cable..the outcome different ..some can get 150mbps some only 100mbps..i think cable quality also make differences.

Bro, nothing to do with cable quality. Powerline is extremely unstable, as data is being carried over the electrical lines, and any interference to the line, will lower the speed significantly, as you can see in your network. You have to be plugged directly to the router.

Ahh i see 🤔

Btw even if my 10year old pc have 1gigabit port, I think max test speed is 100mbps since it is using sata crucial ssd. Only the new 1000+Mbps nvme drives can up to gigabit.

Me too, DIR 850L trashcan

Ok noted. Directly plug in still the best. Thanks man.

Just found out that Asus Lyra got a dedicated 5ghz as backhaul..better than Deco M5.. i feel getting this over Mikrotik hAP AC because range still a concern to me..

Asus Lyra vs Lyra Trio got what difference actually??

No difference. Asus Lyra is one unit, and Lyra Trio comes with three unit, which support mesh wifi setup.

Got difference..lol..trio is another model that looked like pyramid..

Anyone got experience to configure two unit of Mikrotik hAP AC to work as a mesh network like asus lyra with dedicated backhaul?

My bad. I was looking at something else.

Get upragde to 500 mbps but only get 100 mbps speed..is that the router dir 850 cant support on this right??

This post has been edited by pang0119: Aug 25 2018, 07:20 PM

Try directly connect ur pc/laptop to router using cat5e/cat6 cable via gigabit port to test first..

wired / wireless?

if wired, make sure the cable is at least CAT5E and the NIC support Gigabit.

for wireless, test with WIFI 5GHz ac, can reach around 200mbps with 2x2 mimo client.

This post has been edited by Ebony & Ivory: Aug 25 2018, 07:39 PM

How to identify you're in 100mbps or 1gbps cable. Just look into the number pin of your cables.

4 wires = 100mbps cable no matter you're cat5 cat5e or Cat6

8 wires = 1gbps and in even cst5e are 1gbps connection too. Not necessary to cat6. Cat6 is to lower down the latency in long distance. But in distance of few meters cat5eis good too. We're not in mission critical connection actually.

This post has been edited by war3boy: Aug 25 2018, 11:22 PM

Shit man, I give up already... seemed like the cost to upgrade the routers/cards are quite expensive.. will just use as it is for now..

Current setup:
Ground floor:
- Main router TP Link Archer C2
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps
- 4 Gigabit LAN ports
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (LAN endpoint 100Mbps connected to main router Archer C2)

First Floor:
- TP-LINK TL-WPA4530 KIT AV500 Powerline ac Wi-Fi Kit (wireless endpoint)
- Wireless AC speed up to 433 Mbps but capped at 100Mbps because of the LAN port is only 100mbps.

My laptop upstair is running on Intel wireless only with max of 433mbps.. pulling a LAN cable will be damn ugly so it is a no.. buying a good Asus Lyra + good USB wifi that is capable of 500mbps and above will be more than 1000.. it is not worth just for a laptop to use.. haha..

Sounds good, but I would suggest the main route being something more capable than the C2, maybe the Archer C7 v4 or v5.

Feeling wanna upgrade but just worried if pay already and it is still not as good as expected..

Is there any shop that i can loan/rent some wifi routers for testing purpose like:
- Mikrotik hAP AC
- Asus Lyra

Unfortunately not. The Archer C7 v4 or v5 will be stable, unless you want something better, like the Asus RT-AC86U, or cheaper option would be the TP-Link C3150 v2.

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May I know your area pls? still waiting fro my unifi turbo ....

Boss, whats this v4 v5 about? i search on online shopping site all selling Archer C7... no mention v4 v5 etc.

I see the price diff bet C7 and C9 is about RM100, and C7 & Asus RT-AC58U AC1300 is RM60; is the price diff can justify the added stability and speed boost? I am waiting my turbo 300 from unifi, wondering which router to get.

Just call me bro will do lol. Anyway, TP-Link likes to release new versions of their routers, and then abandoning the previous version, and not supporting them anymore, unless you are in the US. Some of the online shops might have v2, some might have v4, and some might have v5. It depends on where you get it from. You have to ask the online shop what version is that, or go buy it in a physical shop, and see the version on the box. V5 and v4 is the newest one, and have hardware and firmware upgrade over the v2. If you want to get the C7, get it from OOKAS. They are reliable and got the latest version usually.

Yes, the price diff can justify the added stability and speed boost. You could get the C9 if you want, and that is what I recommend. But, make sure you get it from OOKAS, or if you want to get it elsewhere, make sure it is v5, which is the newest version, and have the newest firmware and better hardware. I suggest you get it from OOKAS. Be aware that the v5 is using EU firmware, so you will get limited 5GHz channels.

Noted, many thanks Bro