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Prepaid Cards BigPay - Prepaid MasterCard (with Mobile Apps) V2, CashBack, BigPoint & Remittance

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post Apr 27 2019, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Xune @ Apr 27 2019, 03:27 PM)
Hi have you guys use Bigpay to purchase something on Shopee. Afterwards request for refund?

Did the refund went back to your bigpay wallet?

It has past 14 working days, no sign of refund yet.

Shopee wants me to provide bank statement to proof not received the refund...how do I suppose to go about this.

Any idea guys?

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Others have answered, but just want to add for my case I used CC, Shopee super sucks at refund. Took them almost 3 weeks to be reflected in my card. Moreover seller is under Shopee Mall, selling something way below market price but after so long, tell me no stock ask me accept refund damn pissed. Complained to Shopee they couldn't be bothered.
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post Apr 29 2019, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 29 2019, 08:08 PM)
I just tell the teller that I want to pump full tank.
I left my cards with them (credit card & loyalty card).
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Too risky to leave your credit card unattended
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post Jun 6 2019, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(stevenkkh @ Jun 6 2019, 09:00 PM)
Anyone getting from Genting for 5k and curious which atm machine is that? From which bank?
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Think no point trying la, it was just mentioned once before, without any reference and so far nobody has managed to withdraw 5k.

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post Jun 8 2019, 03:58 AM

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Somehow feel like damn bored with BP already, don't see much happening despite months ago the huh-hah on so many promises, new features etc. In fact, rarely have chance to use any cards nowadays, as those merchants which allow cards are likely to allow one of the e-wallets too, which of course provide more benefit than BP.

Overseas exchange rate aside, is BP really competitive enough?

(I don't consider CC cash back, withdrawal etc as features as those will end one day)
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post Jun 8 2019, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 8 2019, 08:28 AM)
Only for overseas transaction. Otherwise is pretty useless.
Keep in mind that rebates by other ewallets will end too once they get the dominant market share.
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True other e-wallet promo/benefits might end soon too, but permanent features like Boost shake shall still remain maybe with lesser and lesser shake amount.

Properly integration, e-wallet pmt is going to be much faster and seamless than any cards out there.
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post Jun 17 2019, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jun 17 2019, 05:18 PM)
Oh hi LY friends!

Long time no see... Sorry I disappeared for a while. But work was crazy - and I still replied to PM smile.gif I trust you've met my awesome colleague as well in the meantime. I know from the outside it seem like there isn't much that's been happening but I can promise that 2019 will be a big year for BigPay.

Hope everyone has been doing well!
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It was boring for BP in the past few months, now even more boring with Banks slowly removing credit card benefits of top up.
You guys raged war with them, now they replied.

One of the most prominent feature of BP, is the overseas zero transaction cost. But if we top up to BP and get nothing from credit card, then there's not much savings compared to using credit card overseas (at least to me). I would rather pay like 2% credit card forex but get points in return (also depends how much you value the points/cash back)
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post Jun 17 2019, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(thankyou @ Jun 17 2019, 06:18 PM)
Need calculation which is more worth it... If it's company trip where everything at company expense, then go ahead with normal CC...
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It really depends on individual, I think cannot conclude which is better, as for me, definitely CC points is more valuable, I'm ok with 2% charges.

QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jun 17 2019, 06:33 PM)
Sooo... essentially an e-wallet is a cloud based storage of value. Which is essentially what we do. The main difference is that we give our users a physical card to allow them to spend where there are payment terminals. I like to think of us as a financial institution that challenges the way traditional banking is usually done. You can refer to us as an e-wallet to us if you like. Or a money app. But don't forget to mention our awesome card wink.gif Our positioning is also very different - but more on that hereunder.
It's a conversation I've been having quite a lot recently.

The thing is... cashback and rewards are not free. One way or another, people are paying for it - even if you might not see it directly smile.gif The other players providing cashback and rewards are not printing free money for anyone. If you ask me (and a lot of analysts): it's an unsustainable business model and you will slowly see other players getting out of it. Banks were/are able to do it because they charge a shit ton of fees on a lot of ridiculous things. Other e-wallets bleed money to attract users and/or have another sustainable business to mitigate that.

BigPay allows users to save money by providing them real insights on how they're spending their money as well as being super transparent on fees. Over time, I firmly believe you can save way more by not paying fees and become more financially savvy than by just hunting cashback. Our priority is to make our users healthy, not to blindly incentivize spending.

I've been using BigPay as my only payment card for the last 3 months and I have learnt a great deal on how I spend thanks to the new analytics. I honestly think this has already saved me more in the last 4 weeks than any cashback reward could have ever given me back! But that's just me smile.gif A lot of people get our app because of how much money they can save on current exchange (our main hook for now) but keep using it for all the seemingly smaller day-to-day features we provide: split bills, instant money transfers, analytics, card freeze, and so on and so forth.

As we keep adding on more features and providing good insights, people will see the long-term value of BigPay. And hopefully other financial institutions will follow suit, as it'll raise the standard for everyone in Malaysia! Building our vision takes time and we know it's not necessarily in line with the instant gratification that other players might offer. But it's a choice...

I hope that answers your message!
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1) E-wallet with cashback, yes they're bleeding money and not sustainable for long term, but that's what startup will do, capture market share, dominate the market, and lose money for first few years. They are many real-life examples

2) BP on local transactions - if we use BP, we get nothing other than miserable BP points (guess you know how much the BP points awarded worth). But if we use credit card, we get rebates/cash back/points.

3) BP on foreign transactions - as I highlighted earlier, I used to save forex from BP, while not sacrificing on my CC points. But now, I've to choose between paying 2% CC charges in return for points or use BP, save the 2% but get nothing. For me, I'll choose to use CC, moreover, I still trust CC in all sort of fraud/scam protection. Also, I don't encounter like missing records in my card statement like in BP.

I'm not saying my decision represent everyone, I do believe many still enjoy BP with no forex fee.

I'm highlighting above not blaming on BP fault, as you can't control the bank's decision. What I'm saying is, BP definitely is a lot less attractive after the decisions by few banks to remove all sort of points/CB for top up. I honestly still can't see how BP stand out now.

I'm also highlighting that BP should realise where you stand, and not too confident of your "dominance". We thank you for having this, I guess so many of us enjoy BP for so long, but it slowly will prove otherwise

This post has been edited by msa9696: Jun 17 2019, 09:29 PM
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post Jun 17 2019, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 17 2019, 09:28 PM)
Confirmed? You have checked with CS for the affected MCC? Actually it's not confirmed yet.. Though I also have a strong feeling it is one of the affected ones.
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In actual fact maybe BP might not fall under e-wallet, but I guess banks will be very happy to include it into this category, and I can't find any reason why they will be so kind to BP. After all, their move is quite obvious
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post Jun 17 2019, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Jun 17 2019, 09:32 PM)
Yeah but then again, who knows unless there's a published MCC list. tongue.gif
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Best is not to listen or speculate, just try it lor haha.
I'll try it and share here for sure. Since got so many credit cards, I'll just isolate one and use for few BP top up and see if I get any points
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post Jun 18 2019, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(mr_tuzki @ Jun 17 2019, 11:30 PM)
I wish they had just limited the ban to e-wallets which allows withdrawals such as Boost & BigPay. They shouldn't include GrabPay, TNG Wallet etc which doesn't allow withdrawals, and thus doesn't have the element of "abuse".
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Totally agree with that, provided their intention is to limit the constant "abuse" of withdrawal etc. But if they want to compete with the rest, ie through their stupid MAE (for Maybank), then it's a different story.

QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Jun 18 2019, 10:21 AM)
2 to 3% fees on credit cards on each transactions + the bad exchange rate that banks will give you + annual fees + interests... I'd rather get the real exchange rate + understand exactly how I spend and where - but that's just me!
Saw GoPayz but haven't had much time to delve into it in details yet!
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I'm surprised at your level, you quote such unfair comparison and have such shallow knowledge on CC.
No time to explain further.
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post Jun 18 2019, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(v2_vehooi @ Jun 18 2019, 01:44 PM)
if the e-wallet you mentioned without giving any discount/rebate/cashback or any kind of direct benefit after you top up or use it. i dont see any point why you still keep that e-wallet. somemore, wasting your time. credit top up --> e-wallet --> then make payment. silly.
better direct use credit card to pay.
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EXACTLY
Again, I'm not against any e-wallet or whatsoever. I still think it will work for those without any credit card or prefer to save the overseas fees.
Using CC top up BP creates another unnecessary layer, for what? To get analytics? Transfer to friends? Freeze cards?

QUOTE(Barricade @ Jun 18 2019, 02:23 PM)
For all the trouble just to get RM5.79 per month one must be damn pathetic and should focus the energy and time for something else biggrin.gif
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EXACTLY
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post Jun 18 2019, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jun 18 2019, 02:39 PM)
Don't know this is new or old, 11street just changed name to PrestoMall and after i login there is a link to Presto and it divert me to Presto which is also an e-wallet with PrestoPay.
Will dig more into it and find out got any kangtao anot...
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LYN has lots of genious ppl, think very soon we'll discover some other attractive deals haha
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post Jun 19 2019, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Jun 19 2019, 11:46 AM)
Comparing with other current e-wallet, BigPay still have the advantage of :

a) customer base although there is no loyalty in this field.
b) bigger size wallet, in fact the biggest size of all e-wallet in malaysia.
c) less down time and more stable compare to other e-wallet
d) since MBB going to void rewards/CB for all e-wallet topup soon, BigPay now is on the same level with other e-wallet due to AMEX is going out of picture.
e) unlimited monthly spending/withdrawal
f) better customer service
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How about compare to existing credit cards? Don't think need to compare to other e-wallet.
Even compare to other e-wallet, e-wallet still have constant promo/CB, while BP doesn't have anything except Big loyalty points
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post Jun 25 2019, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(bee993 @ Jun 25 2019, 04:58 AM)
Withdrew 3k from mbb last Friday. BP app show rm6 instead of rm3006.. But total amount shud be correct.. Just make me feel little unsecured if I don't do some manual calculations.. Also till now the app can't show which bank/card we top up from
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QUOTE(bee993 @ Jun 25 2019, 09:43 AM)
Yes.. Still the same... Even export the analytic thing.. So it is not  tally
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It can happen, happened to me. Withdrawal missing from statement, but it was deducted from balance.
Took me so long to figure out as I don't reconcile often
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post Jun 26 2019, 10:23 PM

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Nobody facing issues with BP? Having difficulty in loading the transactions and credit for past few days, and also faced notifcation problem as highlighted by someone earlier.

Today resume normal, but noticed one transaction (withdrawal) missing in records, but of course amount already deducted from balance. Second time already from BP, so unreliable
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post Jul 4 2019, 03:41 PM

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ENDGAME soon, yesterday queueing for withdrawal, 3 out of 5 person in front of me were withdrawing BP. One person has 4 cards, each card withdraw twice.


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post Jul 4 2019, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ckweng @ Jul 4 2019, 03:43 PM)
Which bank branch? let us avoid making a futile trip there to withdraw.
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Maybank near Giant Kinrara

QUOTE(koala225 @ Jul 4 2019, 03:47 PM)
withdraw so much, not afraid of robbery?
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If me I afraid la

QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 4 2019, 03:57 PM)
withdrawing does not mean end game la, ppl just using their kids, wife, father, mother, sister, etc etc card to withdraw ma
it BP does not offer withdrawal then i will stop using it
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Just guessing, quickly withdraw before 7th and one final top up
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post Jul 4 2019, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Jul 4 2019, 04:03 PM)
you should wish for more people to withdraw rather than just few of us withdraw, BP will be so busy that they won't bother if more people withdraw than less.
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Agree

QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jul 4 2019, 04:04 PM)
Amex can link to BP meh? since when?
7th July is for Amex TP cut off
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I didn't mention Amex only
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post Jul 11 2019, 11:49 AM

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Anyone having issues with the app? I've very frequent issues these past 2 weeks of not being able to display transaction and balance, not only my phone, my siblings one as well.
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post Jul 15 2019, 06:17 PM

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I guess BP just have nothing else to do, maybe too free already, even more free after having less users now haha.

I just received love letter from them too, I do have genuine spending plus withdrawal.
I welcome their termination if they deem they have too much business now

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