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Eco Grandeur (VERSION 3A), Norton Garden,the enchanting garden inEG
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aaron1717
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Aug 27 2018, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(simonpeek77 @ Aug 27 2018, 10:13 AM) morning All... yesterday drop by EG, notice there is a big plot of kelapa sawit land, (opposite LBS project) under clearing now, anyone know who will be the developer? maybe its just replanting aje... hahaha... last time the land opposite EG also did clearing... i tot gonna be new development there... mana tau few months later... they plant kelapa sawit on it again....
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aaron1717
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Aug 27 2018, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(simonpeek77 @ Aug 27 2018, 10:26 AM) but I saw there is a sign board placed near on it, but can't see clearly, that land is really big, hopefully is re-planting, if not, surrounding area really getting "botak" but not green anymore..... when i passby... i help u take a look... haha.... still alot greenery around here... dont worry...
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aaron1717
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Aug 27 2018, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(dark.knight @ Aug 27 2018, 03:45 PM) Hi all, anyone has intel about Norton Garden semi-D launch? SA don't seem very trustworthy, keep saying next month. if EW SA also not trustworthy... then why outsiders here will have more reliable info leh... haha... their SA are all in-house professionally trained one wor... not those outsource agents...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(Myocean @ Aug 31 2018, 12:35 PM) So far so ulu place Design also No good still got so many flippers buy.... Seriously still think can flipped like EM hahaha occupancy for new projects in this area not bad... within one year from VP can easily filled up at least 40%... i would say less flipper than what you perceived... no understanding then just dont blurt out nonsense... so your EM alot roti canai flipper? This post has been edited by aaron1717: Sep 1 2018, 10:35 AM
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Aug 27 2018, 05:41 PM) i think other than the sports shop, international school, service apartment and proposed bukit cerakah expansion... the rest all already started and jalan already... and from what I seen from the back of hillpark... all landed units done piling and structural construction already at least...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2018, 10:57 AM) ppl moved in doesn't mean no flippers. some ppl rent out first while waiting to flip some cant flip then rent out some bought for ownstay some bought for don't know what reasons (maybe forgotten they have bought) and leave it idle. one thing for sure, nobody knows exactly the statistics of the above categories. how do you come out with 40% occupancy rate within one year? you count the houses every month? also EG is a more expensive housing estate. I doubt that ppl that bought there are currently homeless and cant wait to move in. bro... more expensive housing in term of size and price persqft only... nett price are almost similar ma... ppl who can afford a sub 500k landed house are still affordable regardless of the sizes leh and there could be alot are waiting for this project to completed and move in.... like u say affordable and ppl will buy or not is different story and also the demographic here... even for their larger sizes one avenham... the total nett price still consider affordable for the land size they have... its their BU is smaller than any nearby developments aje... why need count one by one... night lights very easy to see... lol... some of those new projects inside puncak alam ones... doesnt even have F&G... just drive through also can easily see it... u try and drive by SEH and EM during night... u will see what is low occupancy rate derived from rough eyeball estimation... and to be fair... i like to explore my township surrounding also...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2018, 11:29 AM) sub 500k only for early birdies nia, and bumi units. hilllpark newer launches already over 500k? yup... my own phase... more than 550k liao for 22x75 for a 4 years ago launching.... even early bird... latest batch even increase until 650k on SPA price... lol... first phase maybe 5-6 years ago launching... sub 450k... but alot of those are TM staffs buying... now hillpark 20x70 or 20x65... also 450k like that liao... just more freebies... This post has been edited by aaron1717: Sep 1 2018, 11:36 AM
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 1 2018, 11:41 AM) Which one amenities already started piling? The SRJK already started piling? Just to remind don't trust too much on EW SA, a lot claims actually need to wait wait wait one...  yeap... this very true... SRJK also belum... i mean the other than he mentioned... the rest... have to be wait and see... but i think international skul should be boleh jalan first...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 1 2018, 12:07 PM) First year % important one meh? Not the current one? Got different one ar compare to 2nd or 3rd year? Project A first year 40%, 2nd year 45%, 3rd year 50%. Project B first year 20%, 2nd year 40%, 3rd year 50%. If Project A 100 houses, Project B 1000 houses, then ok lah, I admit got difference lah...  for own stayers... its quite important leh... haha... diorang takut tak ada teman diorang... hehe.... but in PA here... so far now low dense development... even phase by phase... cin cin cai cai also 300 units by phase... now this EG gt 2000+.... its the best project to test water....
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(moruh @ Sep 1 2018, 12:13 PM) i just bought bungalow, corner lot RM1.8m and after discount RM1.5m... i saw huge prospect here, similar to Setia Alam when they started develop last 16 years ago... connected main road and MERU road link now underconstruction... EW will built new Shopping Mall, Office and other facilities... for bungalow this size.. at Setia Alam/ Eco Park.. easily sell around RM3m... and look at Bungalow unit, almost 85% sold... cannot compare to SA la bro... haha... different demographic... SA alot klang rich ppl buying there... wan a proper and modern township compared to their old place in klang... and almost all the lands there are freehold... the problem with EW is so far they din show they can replicate the success of SA at elsewhere... i dont think here will have a mall like SCM yet.... but lets wait and see in the future...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(samkps @ Sep 1 2018, 12:23 PM) Yeah loh... Wait until VP first only can know the actual situation... Good to put moderate hope initially, but the factual data only can be known after VP later.. Need to admit that MKH landed project last time actually many people move in one. Example Pelangi Semenyih have about 90% occupancy (after 5 years VP) and 30% for Pelangi Semenyih 2 (after one year VP) when Setia Ecohill was launched in 2013.. yea... i think the subsequent ones will be put to test... and its good that the EG pricing still able to attract the demographic here to buy the projects... met some owners in during my grandeur lab visits... they are looking forward to move in.... but those i met are from klang, sg buloh, shah alam one... lol...
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aaron1717
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Sep 1 2018, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2018, 12:45 PM) Your math really 1st year high occupancy meaning less flippers lah, and demand for housing there is applausible. I think for SEH 1st phase, occupation rate for `1st 12mths was less than 10% (I could be wrong), therefore suggested many flippers and buyers weren't ready to move into 'ghost town'. important or not, yes, for the 1st 3 years. bcos higher occupation also means encouraging for retails to open up as well. no, if township is over 10 years old. HOWEVER, despite of 40% occupation as claimed by Aaron kor, I hardly read any vibrant commercial at Puncak Alam.  still very malay based businesses... those that nearer to the residential one... all those shoplot commercials also quite vibrant... seldom change of tenants... tesco, econsave alot of ppl during the weekends... for chinese its abit susah... because lack of non halal options... pasar malam here also super duper jam one... make the roads become one laner... lol... those dying ones are the ones that are neither here nor there... not near to residential and also not near to hotter part of PA... wanna see the Real dead commercials... have a visit to bukit jelutong...
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aaron1717
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Sep 3 2018, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(Myocean @ Sep 2 2018, 11:01 AM) Here EM alot flippers ....So just wandering EG same anot only? Just pass through EG few days ago feel very ulu n location wise further then EM so just asking is it a good location to buy considering amenities n location... depends on demographic ma... ulu... its just under MDKS... but closer to shah alam/sg buloh than KS... from EG go KS cincai also need 30-40 mins leh dai lou... EM wont have high occupancy its because its launched at a timing where all ah pig ah dog also tot they are super investor... must invest into a landed and flip upon VP.... in the end flip roti canai also kenot... and no one wanna stay in... demographic and timing differences... EG go to subang/PJ half an hour only leh... and go to setia alam mall 15 mins only... 20 mins away then have the hottest aeon mall in town... inside PA have tesco, econsave, speedmart... plenty of basic amenities... no chinese foods aje if non halal stuffs are what you looking for... but leasehold la... and if you wanna buy as investment... then say dont la... rental here koyak like hell despite UiTM just direct opposite aje... This post has been edited by aaron1717: Sep 3 2018, 09:11 AM
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aaron1717
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Sep 3 2018, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(Myocean @ Sep 2 2018, 11:13 AM) EM till now only 20% occupancy.... honestly Kuala Selangor very ulu too me seriously can get 40% like ppl predict EM? EG somemore only leasehold strata ....Considering want get one unit at EG anot just because t price .... Actually how far from pj n kl this area? I heard EG this kind of price better font expect good amenities around.....If u retired own stay can la lol... very hard to explain to you... depends on what you looking for... alot young families here buying for own stay because going to shah alam, PJ, subang, klang, setia alam to work is not that challenging for them... plenty of job opportunities surrounding here in 30 mins radius... unless your job must die2 go to KL only can work... then u buy EM or EG also no difference... better go buy pigeonholes near KL or those super old landed there... anyway all these been mentioning in EG or any PA threads like thousand of times le... this place generally sales on its own due to the pricing for landed... no need hard sell really...
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aaron1717
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Sep 3 2018, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 1 2018, 02:23 PM) but Hllpark and EG are not in the heart of puncak alam rite? the capital of Puncak Alam is actually Ijok. Ijok got banyak non bumi rite? nope... capital of puncak alam still 20 mins away from Ijok... haha... the capital is where tesco puncak alam at... not bombastic but not dying either... nothing much to shout about... at least for past 2 years... those shops din bankrupt and leave that area... even the chinese hairstylist shop here also been in business for 5 years and still ongoing... Ijok gt more non bumi... more chinese foods and more genuine...
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aaron1717
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Sep 3 2018, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 2 2018, 01:34 PM) why the perception of old already need to hide away to no man land? need to practise kung fu in the mountain ah? honestly, none of my relatives and my father retired to mountain to practice kung fu. i think if im really old... i will move back into the city... regardless its pigeonhole or old single storey landed... lol... i wan every amenities within my reach without really driving by then...
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aaron1717
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Sep 3 2018, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 3 2018, 10:21 AM) sorry got confused.... from WIKI Puncak Alam is a township in the Ijok commune of Kuala Selangor constituency in north-western Selangor, Malaysia. It is located about 30 kilometers northwest of Kuala Lumpur and 20 km NNW from Shah Alam, the state capital of Selangor. ijok is capital of KS. Puncak alam was previously under felda. no wonder EG has allocated some land and houses for the settlers. yup... and deswai got settlers there supposed to own a house allocated before... but got nothing.... wait for 20 years later baru dapat compensation from EG...
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aaron1717
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Sep 4 2018, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(Myocean @ Sep 4 2018, 02:29 PM) Thanks for sharing t info....I am currently working in pj area so I think EG is closer that case just only it's leasehold.... If retired I definitely wouldn't buy EW strata properties too much restrictions more prefer individual title...I personally prefer corner lot big piece of land plants tress flower n etc n pets to run around as I like n strata too many rules on this.....y buy strata restrict yourself if u not into it here also have plenty of individual title projects for choosing geh... and i think more to come... lol... but then for a township like EG... if dont make it strata... the whole concept will be affected.... become kindergarten houses already if let the owners have all sorts of creativity towards their house...
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aaron1717
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Sep 5 2018, 11:51 AM
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QUOTE(victor0606 @ Sep 5 2018, 11:44 AM) Thanks for the feedback! appreciate it ver much. got a few more questions from your answer, if you dont mind BSC consider a ordinary developer ist? sorry i am not familiar with it. What do you mean Run of mills township ya? mind to elaborate more? thank you! and also: 1/DASH highway how much time will it cut down from EG to KL City as compare to current roads? 2/ Where is exactly the entrance and exit point of the Dash highway? Thank you ya!  KLK ordinary developer and i think BSC is their first township project... and their township just like ordinary township project with houses... clubhouse and shoplots... thats all... wont cut much... DASH ends at damansara perdana... which from there... u still need to jam from PJ to KL... maybe save up to 10 mins aje compare to existing ways...
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aaron1717
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Sep 5 2018, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 5 2018, 11:54 AM) They developed kepong b4. owh... thanks for the info... din saw it in their website... but from their name should be quite make sense... haha
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