Repentence is turning from sin to Jesus. Repentence is the realization that we are sinners and we have regret for being a sinner and want to turn from sin.

As for tithing let me ask you a question. Do you think it's fair that pastors get to live a comfortable life and the members suffer? Also, do you really need to attend such big churches? Do you need a big church in order to preach?

I know that you are going to use the usual Malachi verse to defend tithing. But then the fact is that that verse only apply to the Jews at that time. We are no longer under the old testament.

You are so wrong on the second Adam part. It's so funny.
But I will not even bother explaining to you. You probably cannot understand spiritual things because of your blindness.
Do you even understand what is the meaning of being born again? Yeah that's the clue on the second Adam. But you probably still will not get it.
The way you read the Bible is probably how the atheist read it anyway.
1 Corinthians 15
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

See. But then even after you have been proven wrong. You probably still will not repent. Because that's your nature.

Wonder why Satan still continue in his ways even though he knows his time is short? I have given you the clue here.

Lost people always never get it.

You even get rest wrong. But then reprobates like you do not fear God. Maybe another clue. What is the meaning of resting in God?
Hebrews 4
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.

6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:

7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

See. Your whole post is rubbish.

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As I said. You would not repent. As what I have just said earlier. It's expected.

I mean even when you are clearly prove wrong and that's what lost people do. I have already made a "mini prophecy" in my earlier post and it just came true.

Anyway. Just a final verse for you. Maybe you should study it more.

2 Peter 3:16.
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

BTW I expected the reaction from the other guy as well.

As I have implied. Consistently teaching the wrong things over and over again does indicate something. And the other guy who is "supporting" you, I expect the same out come as well.

You see, the thing is, spiritual things can never be understood by people who do not have the Holy Spirit in them. The more they speak, the more confuse they get.

I was speaking about the passages that you quoted. You interpreted them wrongly. It's so obvious and yet you are BRUSHING over it. That's the antichrist spirit.

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32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

To the other guy.

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As per usual. The usual people now team up to gang me. It's ok. I know which side I am on. And I know which side those people who attack me are on.

It's a privilege to be called a "Bible Reader". That's the thing. It prove my point. I know the destination of most of you here.

The thing is. I will be probably be looking at you guys during the Great White Throne of judgement. Just like the rich man is begging Lazarus. But of course you guys will probably be mocking me till then. Keep on mocking. Because time is short.
EOS

Actually I was thinking about something. The fact that I was called a Bible Reader and not a Christian is already a judgement by itself.

Anyway.
Your fruits are pretty rotten to be honest. Do you know why most people are silent towards you? Because they dun really think you are a Christian especially the fact that you actually admitted that the Bible is not the only source of Truth. And to be honest, from your perspective. I can understand. The thing is, you never were serious about doctrines in the first place. Like most people, the only reason why you seek for "knowledge" is because you want to have an advantage over others. You want to show to others how "better" you are as compared to them. But then you do not really care whether your "knowledge" is the Truth or not. The thing is, this is pretty narcissistic actually.

Actually it would have been better if you "think" that cessationalist and Calvinist and OSAS people are unsaved. At least you are being honest. Do not pretend to call them brothers when they are not.

Well, I am not the only one who thinks you are unsaved at the moment. But yes, I do have a standard when it comes to determine who is my brother or not. Its simple actually. One of the criteria is that saved people love the truth. Something that you not only do not love. But then pervert as well.

Thanks for sharing the 2 threads actually.
I now have serious reservation about that guy. See I am consistent right?

Nah. I once tried being nice to you right? But then what does being nice to a Judas Iscariot achieve? Nothing right?

Well. It's my choice. By the way, if you read the Bible carefully, Paul and Jesus also attack people who are Heretics. But I guess you are reading a different Bible then I am right? Oops. You dun really read the Bible. I forgot. Sorry.

Actually, I did that in a playful spirit. Ok I admit I am a sinner and narcissistic people like you get onto my nerve. I have met many narcissistic people in my life and it fill me up with rage. Of course, I know, I should have controlled myself. But then I am a sinner. But then it's something that I will not do in the future. Only a narcissistic person would share private messages to the public. And that's the thing. You think your deeds are good enough to send you to heaven. Well. Just want to remind you. Your narcissistic personality only reveal how sick you really are. And I always feel that narcissists are children of Satan. They have the same characteristic as them and now I understand why you made me so angry. But yes, I have to control myself. And yes, I will probably not make that same mistake again as I know what is probably going to happen to you after you die.

The thing is, I do have a gift in discerning the spirit of someone and to be honest. It's not looking good for you right now.

I will answer your question on the KJB part since you ask. I am sure you understand how perfection works. If you dun, then I guess your education must be pretty wasted.

Of course, if someone speak Swahill, and there is another Bible that matches the KJB in his language. Of course he can use that Bible. It's clear that the modern translation does not match up with the KJB so of course, the modern translations and the KJB cannot be perfect at the same time. It's either the KJB is perfect or one of the modern translation is perfect or both are not perfect. The idea that the KJB is perfect comes from the fruits that it has produced over the years and also by faith that God has preserved His words perfectly. If you do not believe in a perfect bible, then you probably do not believe in a perfect God. I can really write a lot based on the KJB, in fact,

I do not really care whether you think I am a Christian or not. I do not seek your approval. I seek God's approval. If I seek for other approval, I would not be writing the way I write. The thing is you are seeking for other people's approval. All your post shows that. A Christian is secured in Christ. You are not. But I doubt you even understand.

And why does it even matter to you if my account is suspended? You see only narcissist cares about surface things on whether other people's account got suspended or who manages the thread etc. A thread that has not been active for months. A normal person will not care about those things. A narcissist however will care

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Funny you said before that salvation is by grace and works.
So which is which now.

2 John 1
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

But then the Bible is never your standard right?

That's why I told azriqii, I do not really trust anybody.

I take back what I said.

However the other part stands.

Funny that you cannot do that.

But then when you find fault on me, you seem harsh but then when it's the other way round, it suddenly become a serious accusation right?

So why dun you do us all a favour and answer the other part then.

Just want to clarify why I "made" the mistake.

You once said that faith = salvation + works. As for me, faith = salvation. Because faith itself will lead to good works. Faith produces works so it's wrong to even say that faith = salvation + works in the first place. So yeah, I made a mistake. Congratulations. You made it.

But as usual. You point out my mistake but then at the same time fail to answer the rest. So what does that make you? To be honest, even an atheist is much better then you. Just admit it ok.

The reason why you want to highlight my mistakes is to make yourself look good right?

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Unfortunately you do not practice that in this thread.

And what do you mean by scripture is the sole source of authority?

Which scripture?

The NIV? ESV, KJB

Which differs from each other?

How can they be equally authoritative if they differ from each other?

I never asserted that kjb is not a product of multiple manuscripts in fact it emphasize the truth in the kjb. Because they could have easily used a single manuscript to translate but then the fact is, thru have to use multiple manuscripts because the translators realize that the truth is not found in just the texts receptus itself.

You just admitted that you do not believe in the scriptures BTW. So why pretend?

Well then it proves you do not believe in God's words then

It's not difficult to find. In fact didn't you did that a while back by trying to prove the 'imperfection" of the kjb? If you want to find its so easy. There's going Google right

BTW. No time to entertain you. The way you speak in the previous post is actually similar to how atheist discredits the Bible. I know it's going to be a Merry go round whereby once you are proven wrong, you just disappear.


I believe I have already PMed you etc and if you dun get it, maybe heaven is not meant for you.

So you do not believe that the following verse then

Matthew 24:35

Nah dun want to debate anymore.

Everytime you lose the debate you just run away like a coward.

From the words you have written, you are not saved.

But then by your previous post, you just admitted that God never preserve his words.

Actually KJV is not in old English.

Compare shakespearean English with KJV. There's a huge difference.

Wow you talk so aggressive.

How come you are not that aggressive when I have proven you wrong and wrong again in personal Pms.

Until you account for all of our previous exchanges. Then I will answer your concerns. Otherwise just remain lost.

By the way. Believing in the wrong Christ damns. Just to let you guys know.

I guess you probably think just a mere confession of Christ save. No matter what version of Christ that person believes in. So my question now is, is say you profess in the Islamic version of Christ and repent, will you get saved?

Before we continue, we should make things clear right?

But you probably do not have the material and guts to continue on right?

Depends on the Bible version actually.

If you are interested in this subject. Go and read new age bible version by Gail Riplinger or you can watch her videos.

Just a quick one. The new versions lowers the deity of Christ and make him to be like a man. Of course this is one of the things they do. In fact as thomasthai pointed out, they even remove entire sections of the Bible which describes the ressurection of Christ. Many of those people who produces the new versions are textual critics who determines what should be in the bible and what should not. And you trust bible that are written by those people?

If you are really seeking the truth you will find it. But then if you are just like anyone else, well, all I can say is, well, there is a high chance you will be facing judgement.

Even if one verse differs, shouldn't it be a concern? But I guess when people like thomasthai treats truth in a flimsy way. It probably does not matter. That's the thing. The Jesus he believes in is not the one in the Bible. It's the one in his head. If you look at his previous post. He even admits it.

That's why I implied in my pm to you. I dun trust many people.

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